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| Again, i don't think folk are unhappy With Murph and Gene, they are both adequate replacements and have both done a good enough job when they have been used.
Agree about Mamo though, Darnell has done nothing wrong and will only get better with more gametime, i'd be tempted to leave him at full back and put Mamo on the wing and see how he gets on there.
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| no smoke without fire, is broughs agent trying to stoke up abit of interest .... i think toronto have made brough an offer, been mentioned on here few weeks ago
he may well leave end of the season but for now its all talk.
brierley i feel could be tempted to a toronto too if he cant force his way back into the team here
if those two did go that would leave a huge gap in the salary cap! enough for widdop...not a fan of really
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| Quote ="Crackerjack"...........and if thats favourite , I wouldnt mind seeing brierley given a shot on the left flank
IMO his demise has been emphasised by him being static feeding the scrum as I said before
One of his best performances wasat KR where he relished some free space running wider and taking the ball with options available
As our fastest player he would be better used taking it first or second receiver from the scrum attack after looking for the openings
With refs doing little to monitor opposition defensive lines hes been immediately closed down which has led to criticism that isnt totally his making
There hasnt been many games in the newseason since that playoff game but in that short time hes gone from hero to villain in the eyes of some who were lauding his signing not that long ago ---- partly because of the role hes been asked to play in the team - a bit unfair IMO
Because of this I think his confidence has taken a"knock" and by using his pace more effectively than at present could be more beneficial long term
yes - we got over from Jerrys interception at Wigan and it was well taken - but willing to bet theres a good chance hed have been there for the inside pass and round behind the sticks
THATS what we need him to be doing !
If for some reason hes gonna be "cold shouldered" or misused - then a complete waste of the club`s time , money , and a great deal of effort in signing him in my view!!
Gaskell may well PROVE to be the better half back option - but Brierley at stand off would offer another viable alternative I believe'"
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"Crackers - i don't think anyone is directly criticising Ryan himself, most people i have spoke to and myself, all agree it's the way we are/were playing that wasn't suited to Ryan's type of game, maybe when the pitches are harder in the summer he may fair better on a faster track.
Feel for him a bit as he's been a victim of the tactics rather than anything individual.'"
I think he's quite used to fickle fans, but I do feel for him
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| Quote ="brearley84"no smoke without fire, is broughs agent trying to stoke up abit of interest .... i think toronto have made brough an offer, been mentioned on here few weeks ago
he may well leave end of the season but for now its all talk.
brierley i feel could be tempted to a toronto too if he cant force his way back into the team here
if those two did go that would leave a huge gap in the salary cap! enough for widdop...not a fan of really'"
Wow brearley som massive assumptions / leap in logic there- no smoke without fire? How does another club making a pitch for a player ( which happens all the time without anyone usually being the wiser) turn into a bust up with the coach and a p45? The piece in the scum was nothing more than shoddy journalism. He said he'd checked with tgeee sources- but he hadn't even attempted to contact, brough himself, rick stone, or anyone at the club - let alone get a no comment!
Brierley Forcing his way back into a team..... that he's not been out of until this week? We don't know if he's injured or dropped ATM
Widdop????
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| Yeah bit early to be writing Brierley out of the script yet, I reckon it will be well into the season before we have anything like a settled side, There is no need for panic, the only thing we need to worry about is staying out of the MPG, If we can make the eight so much the better " and we may well do that" We need to know what our players are capable of and where they are best played.
Apparently Gaskell had a decent game at half last week, That doesn't make him a Roger Milward yet, Lets give them time to sort themselves out, And Brough is just like most players, they have poor spells, that doesn't mean he has to go, He may just need a rest to freshen up, I'm hoping last week is a sign of things picking up, which granted they need to do, but being honest i wasn''t expecting much this season, and i don't think KD was either which is reflected in the price of STs
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| Quote ="jools"Wow brearley som massive assumptions / leap in logic there- no smoke without fire? How does another club making a pitch for a player ( which happens all the time without anyone usually being the wiser) turn into a bust up with the coach and a p45? The piece in the scum was nothing more than shoddy journalism. He said he'd checked with tgeee sources- but he hadn't even attempted to contact, brough himself, rick stone, or anyone at the club - let alone get a no comment!
Brierley Forcing his way back into a team..... that he's not been out of until this week? We don't know if he's injured or dropped ATM
Widdop????
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the brough rumour fails to go away, maybe broughs agent is putting a few feelers out or other clubs are testing the water to see if hes interested in any potential move
for now it seems its all rubbish but have a sneaky feeling brough may not see out his contract with us to 2018.
cant see brierley displacing either brough or gaskell if they start to produce the good, hes not injured he obviously has been dropped in favour of trying something different.
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| Quote ="Jo Jumbuck" At a time when everyone is unhappy with Murphy '"
Not 'everyone' - just some.
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| Quote ="Sheepridge Giant"Not 'everyone' - just some.'"
Yes that's true mate, Murphy is still getting picked so RS must be happy with him, and he is not my biggest concern either.
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| Quote ="Jo Jumbuck"Yes that's true mate, Murphy is still getting picked so RS must be happy with him, and he is not my biggest concern either.'"
If Wakefield give up their SL franchise we should be the first in for Tom Johnstone - great in both defence and attack.
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| Quote ="Sheepridge Giant"Not 'everyone' - just some.'"
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| Quote ="GiantJake1988"If Wakefield give up their SL franchise we should be the first in for Tom Johnstone - great in both defence and attack.'"
wakefield will be playing at dewsbury next season no doubt
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| Think you would well down the list if TJ become available.
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| Quote ="supercat"Think you would well down the list if TJ become available.'"
Think you are right ,we would be well down the pecking order, But i think you probably meant to say when he becomes available rather than if.
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| we have been well down the pecking order on a few players in the past ... brierley an example!
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| Quote ="Jo Jumbuck"Think you are right ,we would be well down the pecking order, But i think you probably meant to say when he becomes available rather than if.'"
If he keeps up recent levels, the Aussies may be looking at him before too long.
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| Quote ="brearley84"we have been well down the pecking order on a few players in the past ... brierley an example!'"
.................................and peacock !!......................ooops!
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| Quote ="Big Eorls Blouse"If he keeps up recent levels, the Aussies may be looking at him before too long.'"
Would agree with this. On a plus side his fee would be decent
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| Quote ="supercat"Would agree with this. On a plus side his fee would be decent'"
More likely to get a decent fee from a SL side as any fees paid by Aus sides count on their cap. U.K. Backs haven't done well with n Aus so they are unlikely to pay out a large amount.
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| if we can cash in somehow on brough maybe we should, we have had his best years now and not offering us much so far this season, kicking way off....and that was his strong point for the team
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| Quote ="supercat"Would agree with this. On a plus side his fee would be decent'"
Hence my post about when and not if.
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| Quote ="brearley84"if we can cash in somehow on brough maybe we should, we have had his best years now and not offering us much so far this season, kicking way off....and that was his strong point for the team'"
Take your point brearley , but which of our players is offering anything never mind much, Gaskell fair play is looking decent.
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| Quote ="brearley84"if we can cash in somehow on brough maybe we should, we have had his best years now and not offering us much so far this season, kicking way off....and that was his strong point for the team'"
Who in the right mind is going to pay cash for a 35 year old at the end of his SL career who is out of form with his best asset (kicking game). No club are going to do that.
If I was Brough and Toronto are offering a good 3 year deal id take it as if he stays with us next season deteriorates even more .....after playing all season and the world cup he will have had a long year and at his age its going to take it out of him......he may not get a deal like it the year after.
It would be a good way to end his SL career having the world cup as well. Then dropping down to the championship of which he could probably play until hes 40.
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| by cashing in i mean letting him go if theres an offer from toronto... that would free up a big lump sum for us to sign some one new
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