Agree Jools hes brought absolutely nothing which I can see as of yet and BOTH signings he has made you have to question.

Wakeman small and overweight no better than Mason, Clough or Smith.

Mamo - signed with a broken foot and will probably miss more than he will play.

Added to 5 Bradford players...laughable if you think about it

Said it before Aaron Murphy is completely shot and shouldn't be in the first team anymore.

The only way out attack would work is if we were playing ourselves - its that bad....cant see it changing anytime soon!!!!!!!!!

Agree 100% with everything said here. Fuming isn't strong enough to describe feelings right now

Was it really as bad as it sounded on the Radio. Very very glad i didn't tram over there.

would love to know what our cap is . are we on a shoe string or do we have a MD who pays top dollar to rubbish

People on here soon change their spots , when dire recruitment and a chief exec not fit for purpose were highlighted in the off season , bottom 4 is a given can Rick Stone keep us out of the MPG ?

can rick stone get into the million pound game gave them the bennfit after wakey game . but now looks shoot

I have been saying all along, He needs time, he needs time, but it's hard to disagree with a lot of the comments on here. He doesn't appear to be making any headway at all, and the worst thing is there doesn't seem to be any light at the end of the tunnel,

We look a very mediocre team at best, who look like they are just there to get paid, and some of these players we are stuck with for a long time. I'm sure it's not that simple, but it sure looks that way.

I commented at a similar time last year and called for andersons head and got laughed at by the regulars on this site i.e jools and co, and i was right in what i said in the end as i have just double checked my post! so please feel free to do the same again! Im not calling for rick stones head yet!! but my observations so far are.....Ryan Brierley is never a superleage scrumhalf. We risked players who were not 100% tonight just to try and win what we obviously consider to be make or brake against the newly promoted team! Our attack is still woeful even under a new coach with a FULL off season to improve it, and i reckon our defense is a tad worse as it stands! where is the next 2 points coming from? shoot me down if we win our next 2 or 3 games but i somehow doubt it!

Can't believe you loaned out Jamie Ellis....

A full pre-season to put things right, a full pre-season to sign even half decent players who would show some desire, a full pre-season to bring in decent attacking structures, a full pre-season to clear out some dead wood.

Instead we are looking like the nightmare never ended, same tactics, same lack of desire, very poor recruitment even if we only credit him with Shambles Wakeman. Some dead wood was shipped out to be fair, but suddenly they look like solid, decent players when in a well coached team, and there is the problem....

He is the head coach, he is in charge of this garbage. He must take responsibility. His decisions are appalling. He is employed to get the most from his employees (the players), much like other people in other professions. He isn't doing that, and has had 6 months to plan, organise and implement his ideas and show at least some signs of improvement through these. Again he has failed to do so.

We need to learn from last year's near-disastrous indecision at board level and act in the next 4 weeks, as a certain other chief exec has promised to do. Getting to the end of august and acting then is not good enough and the damage to the team and their confidence and morale will be beyond repair.

Can't believe we ever signed Jamie Ellis!

Ken won't get rid, with baloo board wanted him gone long time before he did but ken wanted to be loyal, stone safe regardless and players safe too, tjewlos remit is too reduce debt

hinchcliffe was a 3 year deal

gutted ...thought it was only 2

no it wasnt as bad , we bossed most departments apart from one that mattered most ..scoring tries

leigh scored on their first attack!!! 2nd try was abit dodgy

you would think with thorman and robinson coaching the attack would be alot better??!?!?!

First 3 rounds looking okay,as in progress being made after last year.The amount of field position we had in the first 20 minutes against Salford we should have put early points on but, same old failings when it came to the attacking structure. Don't see how Stone can get blamed for that it's been the same problem for years,right back to when they got shot of Brett Hodgson.

Probably played worse against Wakefield, but toughed it out 2nd half.

When I saw the number of injuries and compounded by Gaskell pulling out I knew we would get tonked by HullFC so put that down to a set of unfortunate circumstances.

Last night yet again lot's of field position but came away with nothing on the board.

What does concern me is the field position has all come on the back of Seb & Ukuma's strong go forward.Dread to think how we would go if those two picked up long termers. The interchange forwards have still got it all to prove to the fans.What has Nathan Mason done to upset RS.Came off the bench late the other week and his metres per carry were as good as any.Maybe he doesn't trust him on d.

Someone says drop Broughy,NO WAY that should happen for mine. I would drop his half back partner until they can get him fully up to speed with the timings on the attacking structures,as well as the decision making.

Desperate times,and I would seriously give Hinchcliffe a shot at 7,I'm pretty sure he could play pivot on the attacking structures.Of course then it also relies on the timing of the FB chiming into the line,who has to be capable of drawing in the defenders before realising the ob's hopefully on the overlap.

Of course stone can be blamed if there ARE no attacking structures. If we have all that possession and territory we need to be converting it into points. Leigh's coaching staff must have had their easiest week leading up to a game as all the defence had to do is mark their own man- no Dummy runners, no switch plays, no fullback running round the back, nothing creating space. The only "move" we make is the short inside pass from brough - which never comes off. It's the coaching staff who coach the structures....

You really didn't boss most areas. Both sides made a load of handling errors. Ikahihifo and Taai couldn't play their usual game because of our defence. You didn't look like scoring all night, and we didn't look like conceding.

Nothing wrong with the 2nd try, as pictures prove the ball was grounded

Ref gave dodgy decisions both ways. The better team won, albeit the game was much closer than the score line suggests

Sounds like the Stone Age has really caused a few problems within the club. Heard this 2 weeks ago but wanted more evidence as found the claims unreal. I've now heard from 3 different sources that Stone does not like any of the English players we have at the Giants and wants a team full of Aussies. This has not gone down well with the players who are now not wanting to play for him. Could this explain our below par performances? Anyway like I said, I did not want to put that on here until I could confirm from more sources.
If this really is the case I don't care what kind of a reputation he comes with, I would personally buy him a plane ticket home tomorrow. If he doesn't like the English players he can do one right now and disappear back to Oz.

Remain to be convinced about Mr Stone.
There has been very little of the promised improvement and that only in the area of conditioning with the conditioner responsible now gone.
Whilst other teams have improved their squads, we're going in the opposite direction - seemingly.
It looks clear that we our down-scaling our wage-bill and ultimately, without the improvement we needed from last season, that can only mean one thing be it this season or one coming over the horizon soon.
Not enjoying watching the Giants at all at the moment and it would seem like I'm not on my own.

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Oh we aren't scaling down our wage bill. Gaskell is on more than most of the other players- on tonnes- more than some of our internationals have earned previously. Clough isn't being paid peanuts either.

We're not just trying to improve our squad though it's the entire club that's re-building, whatever the problems are or were that Rick alluded to after only a few weeks in the job, will take more than just swapping a few players around to sort it.

And as for the bit about him not liking the players well i've spoke to a few players since Rick took over and everyone of them had good things to say about what he was trying to do so if that's the case things must have gone downhill rapidly.
What he doesn't like is people who do not work hard enough or want to be a part of what he wants to do, hence the people who have left the club since he took over.

When did our fans become like football fans where instant success is needed or we demand a new guy in charge ?

No idea if this is true but it would not surprise me. The sheer incompetence at the club re recruitment and staffing etc is of no surprise to me.

To be fair most fans I have spoken to don't expect instant success, they just expect a decent standered of defence and to at least watch us do the basics right, Which isn't happening right now.
We know they can do it. Some are international standered but for whatever reason we can't put it together on match day. It isn't just Rick's fault. The players are to blame IF they aren't doing what he has asked. If that's the case then he needs to do what he is payed to do and get them to do it. He might need a couple of seasons to get them where he wants them to be, but basic rugby skills is expected surely.

I hope to god they are backing him and each other... if everyone isn't on the same page then it will fall apart.