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| Quote ="Dave K."Well the player and Hull say he has, I think the Giants are just trying to get a fee out of the deal.
I'd be shocked if he backs out the deal.'"
A lot of time between now and November-including a new coach to come in. there is no deal so he can do what he likes.
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| Quote ="jools"A lot of time between now and November-including a new coach to come in. there is no deal so he can do what he likes.'"
He must be lieing then, as he keeps saying he has signed for Hull, keep clutching those straws.
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| Quote ="Dave K."He must be lieing then, as he keeps saying he has signed for Hull, keep clutching those straws.'"
Pay us what you owe then.
either he's lying or hull FC are..... Can't have it both ways.
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| Quote ="jools"Pay us what you owe then.
either he's lying or hull FC are..... Can't have it both ways.'"
He has signed, the RFL will decide if we have to pay a fee or not.
You need to accept it and get over it.
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| Quote ="Dave K."He has signed, the RFL will decide if we have to pay a fee or not.
You need to accept it and get over it.'"
I'm over it. Players come and go. Hull need to make their mind up-he's either signed or he hasn't.... If he has you owe us if he hasn't it's not over yet- Saints or Wigan could well offer him more....
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| Quote ="jools"I'm over it. Players come and go. Hull need to make their mind up-he's either signed or he hasn't.... If he has you owe us if he hasn't it's not over yet- Saints or Wigan could well offer him more....'"
Of course you are, that's why you keep going on about it. He has signed a contract to start when his contract finishes and he is over the age needed to pay a fee, the RFL have told Hull it's fine, not sure what is so hard to understand.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Of course you are, that's why you keep going on about it. He has signed a contract to start when his contract finishes and he is over the age needed to pay a fee, the RFL have told Hull it's fine, not sure what is so hard to understand.'"
That is called a pre contract which either party can change
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"That is called a pre contract which either party can change'"
They will be done binding element or they is basically no point in it.
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| Quote ="Dave K."They will be done binding element or they is basically no point in it.'"
Exactly- so pay us.
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| Quote ="jools"Exactly- so pay us.'"
You should address that PAY UP to Thewlis. He was the one who was playing games over a new contract and improved terms
Why did he leave negotiations so long ? He only does deals with his favourite Agent. Well known fact. Now just accept that we have lost a Good player and shut up.
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| Quote ="Ambergiant"You should address that PAY UP to Thewlis. He was the one who was playing games over a new contract and improved terms
Why did he leave negotiations so long ? He only does deals with his favourite Agent. Well known fact. Now just accept that we have lost a Good player and shut up.'"
He didn't leave negotiations so long- jake was offered more than we have ever offered a kid his age- rumoured to be 46k a long time ago- good money for a 21 yr old. I guess all the money, effort, education and time given by the Giants- much by volunteers - wasn't worth extra 4K hull have given to Jake.
It's his decision to leave fair enough. I'm not bothered if that's his wish. Players come and go- and I doubt he will play as well as he did on Thursday again for us. He was being slated by some on here at the start of the season remember!
As for yourself- You claim to know so much about what goes on at the club- if you are that close to the club yet slate them on here it appears there's little loyalty exists at the Giants. Either that or you know less than you claim.
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| Quote ="jools"Exactly- so pay us.'"
As, I've said, but you don't seem to understand, the RFL will decide and have already indicated we have done nothing wrong.
Connor will be a Hull player next year, they may be a fee, but I very much doubt it.
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| Quote ="Sheepridge Giant"Can Brough & Ellis combine as halves though,I have my doubts.
FB - Does this mean Jared is history,liked the look of him,despite the nightmare he had at Wakefield this time.'"
yes they have combined well together many times
simpson cover, need a squad
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| regarding connor, what i dont like is why hull fc saw the need to announce a pre agreement?
all it does is unsettle things
have we announced, ormsby, ferguson, gaskell? no..maybe we should so what other clubs seem to enjoy doing
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| Quote ="brearley84"regarding connor, what i dont like is why hull fc saw the need to announce a pre agreement?
all it does is unsettle things
have we announced, ormsby, ferguson, gaskell? no..maybe we should so what other clubs seem to enjoy doing'"
Could be risky brearley. Other clubs could now be looking Connors way and know that he will go for money- remember griffin had already agreed to sign for saints, then changed his mind didn't turn up for the medical and signed on the dotted lines for Leeds.
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| Has it ever occurred to anyone that it might not be about money particularly, for Conner. He may just want a change of clubs for his own reasons, I know it's difficult to appreciate anyone wanting to leave a club with such a unblemished record in it's own dealings with players, but it does happen.
If it is the extra money that has taken him away ( how does anyone know ) Then who can blame him for trying to do the best for himself, Except for those who would never consider a new contract and pay rise for themselves. If and when he goes it won't be long before he falls in for all the slagging off that most who leave the Giants qualify for, Which I imagine will leave him Brocken hearted.
If Hull have breached any rules, I'm sure the RFL will rule they have to pay us, just like we had to pay Bradford.
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| So right then Connor is a better full back just after 1 game,but he's offski and Brierley is a better full back but he's a half back,Jared Simpson is a better FB but dunt get picked. So where does this leave us ?
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| Leaves us wanting a coach who WILL hopefully decide where they all should play and get them giving their utmost for the club on a regular basis
Lets hope we get one -and leave this seasons upheavals behind for goodness sake!!
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| Looks like I was wrong, good news for you he is staying, I would guess two things have happened.
He had been offered the same deal as Hull and he wants to play FB, which is unlikely to happen at Hull.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Looks like I was wrong, good news for you he is staying, I would guess two things have happened.
He had been offered the same deal as Hull and he wants to play FB, which is unlikely to happen at Hull.'"
might not play full back here either with brierley, one thing is for sure is that he needs to nail down a position!
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| Centre? Esp if Wardle is going in 2018. Although Sam wood is knocking on the door too!
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| I think Connors best games have been at fullback or 6
Maybe brierly touted as our fullback unsettled him and now Anderson is gone something else was sorted?
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| Quote ="jools"Centre? Esp if Wardle is going in 2018. Although Sam wood is knocking on the door too!'"
Sam had a great game vs Hull.. Was really impressed with him, in particular his defence. Fonua was probably there best player and he almost dealt with everything.
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| Quote ="Chetnik"Sam had a great game vs Hull.. Was really impressed with him, in particular his defence. Fonua was probably there best player and he almost dealt with everything.'"
Agreed, always surprised me how strong and composed he is in defence. I was worried at the start of the game with Brierley and Wood together on the left, but they scrambled well and muscled up against some big fringe players for Hull.
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| Quote ="HuddsRL5"Agreed, always surprised me how strong and composed he is in defence. I was worried at the start of the game with Brierley and Wood together on the left, but they scrambled well and muscled up against some big fringe players for Hull.'"
I was massively worried. But fair play to him, he performed much better than many other players from other teams have this year vs Hull's right edge. Also, as you mention, Brierley really got stuck.. Reminded me of how Brough defends.
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