how do you know we didn't try?????

Lol-
So now you are throwing insults around.
I have my opinion, and, despite what you think, and what you say, I allow others to have theirs. However I am forceful in putting forward my own view, and forceful in disagreeing with others. Doesn't mean I don't think they should speak it.
You call me out- but then call me stupid because you disagree with my OPINION. Good of you to add some maturity to the debate.

Because Wigan said they wanted to keep him but we insisted on bringing him back.

Someone st the Giants insisted we bring large back !11111

Apologies. Stupid is the only description I could muster up for an attempt to compare the fixed term contract of a professional sportsman with that of a permanent contract of your average working man. There is no comparison.

You crack on, I'm done now. It seems like every thread with you is some sort of battle and frankly I can't be bothered.

This may not be the biggest board in terms of posters but we definitely have the best spin merchants.

might have wanted to give roberts his chance as he performed well in the autumn internationals for ireland

and maybe we didnt know what was going to happen with ferres at that time then we we did not many players were available to sign

Agreed, he's well past his best and goes down 2 easy, then takes forever to get up ( defence all ready set) he's been a great servant for the club in his time but I feel that is the reason he is still playing , I would have replaced him at the end of the 2013 year and given him a role somewhere behind the scenes or he could pursue his TV career., also he could have left on a high. That seems to be the problem at the giants at the min keeping average players and trying to win the Gf with them ( hence bottom of the league ) , what makes it hard to take for me was we where so close and now we seem to have a mountain to climb agen. Obviously I will still show up ,home and away week in week out , but it dose grate on even the loyalist supporters ,some of the strange decisions made at the club over the last 2 years.!

Did OK for his try tonight

Probably wasn't a try really but Ta'ai's was definatley a try so all evens out in the wash kind of thing.

I think people have been saying the same thing about Eorl for about 5 years now

Yet his stats still put him up with the best, and tonight he ran some hard yards. He always does

Pulled one out of the bag for us 2nyt but I stand by what I said , stats or no stats , anyway not guna put a downer on what was a good nyts you be a giants fan.

Winning try apart - He put in tonnes of work tonight. Played long minutes, loads of tackles and hard yards.

Thought Eorl was superb , his work rate is fantastic , like Lawrence but is labelled "rubbish" because he doesn't do all the flashy stuff.

game changed in leeds favour when crabtree went off from his first stint

johnson gave some cheap pens away he will have to learn

It's nowt to do with flash it's because he's supposed to be our enforcer (the big man) and more often than not he gets stopped dead and goes down on his knees then takes forever to get up, he doesn't drive with his legs to gain that extra yard like some of his smaller team mates do. Don't get me wrong he is an ok forward but he doesn't exactly insight fear in the opposition like say Morley did . My point was he's OK and I don't think ok will win us the grand final. He's obviously got his supporters tho and it's just my opinion. Lawrence is a fantastic player !.

Jeez

Look at Crabtree's stats
Then come back with an argument based on actual reality instead of some made up fairy story


Eorl remains one of our best props, has been for years and is noticeable when he is off the field

Eorl
Av. Gain = 7.47
Tackle busts = 16

Rapira
Av. Gain = 7.14
Tb = 6

Huby
AG = 7.03
Tb = 4

Crabtree also makes less errors, has given less penalties and won more penalties than our other props

So, go ahead, what's he not doing right?

It's just what I see when I watch the games, it's also what alot of other people see , obviously not all , but as I'm entitled to my opinion it remains my opinion

Even when it's proven to be wrong?

or taking 4 men to put him down leaving gaps for the next play... he sometimes goes down early then to get a quick play of the ball

Eorl's big value to the team is what he take out of the opposition, can never fault his effort, Didn't see where he had been labelled rubbish.

An opinion- no matter how much you disagree with it can't be wrong.
It can be based on little, no, or downright spurious evidence - but it can't be wrong.

I'd disagree. and option can be proven wrong, a false opinion if you will.

Continuing to hold it in face of mounting evidence, well that's just odd...

I think Squiffdog has a point. Yes Eorl is a valuable player but I must admit it does irritate me the amount of time he seems to take to play the ball. In many ways this negates the great work he does get through. I suspect the apparent lack of effort that gets put in after initial contact is probably more down to coaching/tactics than lack of desire on Eorl's part.

I've no complaints the way Robbie Savage is playing in 2016,sometimes Eorl gets the 'over to you big man' pass when the structure has broken down,has no momentum so is better surrendering and trying to get a quick ptb.