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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"It was bad enough condition wise in the stand so god knows how the players must have felt but I will give all 17 of them credit for not buckling in the heat and seeing the game out .... Catalans have everything in their favour at home but we stood up to them and the conditions very well !!
Massive shout out to the fans too who never stopped singing and dancing all game.
Must also say I thought Scott Grix stepped up to the plate very well when broughy was sin binned and showed he can still be useful for us in attack !!.
Hard to criticise any individual in that heat I think !'" I believe Grixy thinks quicker and reacts faster than anyone else in the squad and proves it near each time he plays.As for Saturdays match was it just me but did our lads look to handle the conditions much better fitness wise than the other nationalities[sorry Catalans}?They looked absolutely cream crackered.
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| Quote ="bilko1941"I believe Grixy thinks quicker and reacts faster than anyone else in the squad and proves it near each time he plays.As for Saturdays match was it just me but did our lads look to handle the conditions much better fitness wise than the other nationalities[sorry Catalans}?They looked absolutely cream crackered.'"
To be honest the conditions were ok on Saturday if we had had to play tonight where the temperature has been far higher and the sun was out later that would have been a real test of endurance but thankfully the points are in the bag and we did what we had to do.
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| poor quality game, but we dug out a well earned and hard earned win, not many teams go there and win, to do so in that heat and humidity was very pleasing, i also though Grix played well as did others, but it was a team victory rather than outstanding individual performances.
good turnout by the giants fans, although i suspect a few hotels in the costa brava were happy! you can't really tell by watching the game back on tv, but excellent vocally as well!
great weekend as always although the heat and humidity put most people to the sword, it must have been pushing 40 in Montpellier yesterday.
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| Quote ="bilko1941"I believe Grixy thinks quicker and reacts faster than anyone else in the squad and proves it near each time he plays.As for Saturdays match was it just me but did our lads look to handle the conditions much better fitness wise than the other nationalities[sorry Catalans}?They looked absolutely cream crackered.'"
both teams were dead on their feet at the end, but yes i did think we looked the fitter side in the closing stages probably due the interchanges, i think catalans only had 2 subs at one point?
or the fact that had to make 143 more tackles than we did!
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| We absolutely bossed the territory in that game.
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This seems to show that Grix passes that ball backwards to me!
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| I understand that Grix's hands looked like he was passing backwards and that he always remained in front of the ball, but the ball did travel a mile forward.
I do have a bit of sympathy for Catalan because if it was the other way round, there would be plenty on here kicking up a real fuss.
However, we've had plenty of decisions go against us so it's nice to be on the other end!
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| Quote ="GiantMisterE"I understand that Grix's hands looked like he was passing backwards and that he always remained in front of the ball, but the ball did travel a mile forward.
I do have a bit of sympathy for Catalan because if it was the other way round, there would be plenty on here kicking up a real fuss.
However, we've had plenty of decisions go against us so it's nice to be on the other end!'"
Of course the ball travelled forwards- it usually does!
Just the same way you would travel forward through your windscreen if you hit a wall whilst not wearing a seatbelt- but it doesn't mean you had an ejector seat.
That pass was as good a pass as you will see a player make. It was whilst running at speed, looping over the top of the defence AND cut out. Spot on and never forward regardless of how far the ball looked to travel.
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| It's commonly said that the major issues some fans have with the refs calls is the fans don't actually know the rules
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| Quote ="Code13"It's commonly said that the major issues some fans have with the refs calls is the fans don't actually know the rules'"
And indeed the players
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| Quote ="espanyolswan"And indeed the players'"
Not to mention the commentators.
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| oh to have brett hodgson or kev brown back who did these try scoring passes week in week out
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| Quote ="brearley84"oh to have brett hodgson or kev brown back who did these try scoring passes week in week out'"
No they didn't!!!
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| Quote ="jools"Not to mention the commentators.'"
Especially them, all 9 or so that they seem to have on duty though bless Brian Carney who has the big screen reviews for RL Hurling and Gaelic Football and bet he's still on a fifth of what Stevo gets.
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| I remember Brown throwing a lot of forward passes
Still does
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| Quote ="jools"We absolutely bossed the territory in that game.
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Sorry Jools but think youre a few frames short with due respect ! Its where Jerry is in relation to Grix and the "lines" when he receives /catches it that will prove one or the other IMO
If hes in front of where Grix is when he releases it then despite all the scientific theories of justification then its a forward pass - and thats what it looked like from a position in the side stand in line with it
( Having said -I`ll take it if offered ! Weve had enough allowed for scores against us eg The Leeds draw at home last season )
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| Quote ="Ivor C&G Scarf"No they didn't!!!'"
yes they did!!!!! david hodgson used to have a field day
kev brown still doing it for widnes too, one of his trademarks
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| Quote ="Crackerjack"Sorry Jools but think youre a few frames short with due respect ! Its where Jerry is in relation to Grix and the "lines" when he receives /catches it that will prove one or the other IMO
If hes in front of where Grix is when he releases it then despite all the scientific theories of justification then its a forward pass - and thats what it looked like from a position in the side stand in line with it
( Having said -I`ll take it if offered ! Weve had enough allowed for scores against us eg The Leeds draw at home last season )'"
No she's absolutely spot on. Both in her interpretation of the laws of the game and her explanation of why it isn't a forward pass. The only determining factor is which way Grix passes the ball. Everything else is irrelevant.
I don't know why so many of our fans are so obsessed with taking what was an excellent hard fought win in tough conditions away from the players by insisting that a pass that clearly wasn't forward should have been disallowed.
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| It's incredible the amount of criticism there has been the last few days towards players after such a good win...especially when it appears not everyone seems to be aware of the rules of the game...
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| Quote ="Crackerjack"Sorry Jools but think youre a few frames short with due respect ! Its where Jerry is in relation to Grix and the "lines" when he receives /catches it that will prove one or the other IMO
If hes in front of where Grix is when he releases it then despite all the scientific theories of justification then its a forward pass - and thats what it looked like from a position in the side stand in line with it
( Having said -I`ll take it if offered ! Weve had enough allowed for scores against us eg The Leeds draw at home last season )'"
Where the ball ends up does not define whether a pass is forward. if you watch most passes at speed the ball ends up in front of where the pass is made from. In fact if you throw the ball backwards over your head whilst running the ball will still be caught in front of where the pass was initiated!
The definition of a forward pass is not based on whether the ball has travelled forward but on the passing motion- and in this case the motion was backwards.
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| i think a lot of our fans are only happy when we lose!
it was a bloody good win down there in those conditions and i am very proud of every single member of the playing/coaching/support staff not to mention the fans who got behind them for 80 minutes, but still not good enough for some!
fwiw i thought it was a forward pass, but not complaining one bit
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| Some people just don't know the rules
That pass is a legal pass on those screen caps
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| Quote ="brearley84"yes they did!!!!! david hodgson used to have a field day
kev brown still doing it for widnes too, one of his trademarks'"
Not every week. In fact, Brown was an awful passer when playing for us. Hodgson did have some superb cut-out passes - and also ones which ended up in touch!
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| I submit to your superior knowledge fellow fans and will wait, watch, and smile to the reaction and total shrug of acceptance from all and sundry when it happens in reverse (not the pass - against us instead of for us) !!
and for what its worth - nowhere have I criticised the teams effort or committment to achieve the win !
Enjoyed the trip, company of fellow supporters, and performance and result immensely !
Well known fact - yer win some -yer lose some! I`ll readily accept the former !
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| Quote ="Crackerjack"I submit to your superior knowledge fellow fans and will wait, watch, and smile to the reaction and total shrug of acceptance from all and sundry when it happens in reverse (not the pass - against us instead of for us) !!
and for what its worth - nowhere have I criticised the teams effort or committment to achieve the win !
Enjoyed the trip, company of fellow supporters, and performance and result immensely !
Well known fact - yer win some -yer lose some! I`ll readily accept the former !'"
Don't think there is any dispute about the ball going forward, If you watch it frame by frame on the sky box, It is clearly and indisputably thrown 5 metre's forward. Grix however keeps going forward and is just as clearly shown to be in front of the ball when It's caught .
It's a very grey area, I'm just happy to have got the call , because we have had plenty go the other way and will again, In which case it will be the ref who is completely blind the TJ who is not fit for purpose, and we will have been completely robbed. In fact we will be claiming all the things Catalan are claiming now.
I suspect from reading this board over a few years, that you have been watching the game a long time, so you will be well used to the unbiased and fair minded views of all RL fans whoever the club they support.
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