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| Ive been told the way the club treat the schools in the area (missing coaching sessions, late cancelations, no acknowlegement of achievements) has left a bitter taste in the mouth of many. These teachers, parents and kids will resent the way they have been treated. Can the Giants expect them to support a club who couldnt give a about them? It just seems like poor management and a lack of taking on constructive critisism are simple things that can be solved to see the Giants take off in the community, or as Bernie says another generation could be lost.
Leeds on Friday and Bradford back in the day had huge crowds due to getting kids involved in tag rugby and dance routines. If they all bring a parent and grand parent and watch a great team the Giants will have a great chance of keeping their support.
But it needs a change in management.
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| There is a "giants liaison officer" who "communicates" with the local amateur sides. My lads team manager is the liaison with him for my sons club.... I had to tell her about the giants junior craft day - she knew nothing about it.
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| Quote ="jools"There is a "giants liaison officer" who "communicates" with the local amateur sides. My lads team manager is the liaison with him for my sons club.... I had to tell her about the giants junior craft day - she knew nothing about it.'"
Slack. There is no excuse for it. its a crying shame as the club could easily get 8/9k crowds if it did the basic right and not as an after thought.
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| Quote ="jools"There is a "giants liaison officer" who "communicates" with the local amateur sides. My lads team manager is the liaison with him for my sons club.... I had to tell her about the giants junior craft day - she knew nothing about it.'"
With all due respect though, a craft day is not gonna entice any new fans through the door. In this day and age, is cutting and colouring really going to be inviting to the X-Box generation (and I'm not knocking it cos I'm sure there were a few kids there who were probably already going to the game).
We need more ticket offers (family tickets £25, 2 games for price of one etc) but I also think we need more going on on the pitch. A regular round robin competition before the game featuring ALL local clubs with winners announced at the end of the season. Get 200 kids there, they should bring at least 200 adults.
Get more non-playing players mingling before the game instead of just standing by the dug out. Maybe have them doing coaching master classes in the 'Giants Zone'.
I still think we should be in EVERY school with flyers for ticket offers. Why not take a hit and offer free tickets for the last two games for one under 16 and accompanying adult. Hopefully the kid will like it so much and put pressure on mum or dad to come back next year. Maybe include anyone who used the flyer for both games in the discounted season ticket period (before general sale).
I'm sure there's lots more we can do, but we certainly need to have more presence in the town
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| This is it, we all have ideas but it seems the people paid to get the crowds in dont seem to have any....the crowds are down and i presume losing money so why not try something for a couple of games.
The matchday price definitely needs to come down though because that is the single reason most people i speak to give for not coming !!!
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| Yes the entry price needs to come down as it's certainly a stopping point for those who refused to buy a season ticket due to the way we've collapsed in the previous two seasons. As pointed out in another thread they need to do a double ticket offer but I doubt this again will work as twice this season the club have done a double ticket offer and one of the games have been changed ala Wigan and Catalans.
One thing I do notice is that Kirklees have a full rear of a double decker bus advertising for foster carers as well as other stuff taking full backs of busses so it can't be that expensive. So a few buses trundling through Huddersfield with a big Eorl would certainly catch the eye. Although as a kid I always knew the next game at leeds Road yet never had a clue what was going on in fartown, as they always had the white sign just by the door you entered. maybe First bus should start this old tradition but not with Town but Giants.
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| The Craft Event was an HGSA initiative and was primarily aimed at maximising the game-day experience. We haven't got the manpower to publicise such events around the town.
However, if anyone wants to help, there's a Kids Disco before the Salford game.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"I think the key for you lot is for the club to capitalise on success. For instance, when the play-offs come around, what you really need, more than the gate money, is bums on seats. I think the RFL (who I believe largely control play-off ticket prices) have some responsibility here, which I'm sure they'll fail to discharge...
At Leeds we like to pretend that our crowds have been huge for as long as we can remember. This is, of course, not true, nad I can certainly remember times when crowds of 6-8k were pretty commonplace at Headingley.
You have to get the product to sell itself. Your stadium does you know favours. Half empty stadiums kill an atmosphere pretty well, but that can't be helped.
But, if you get 15-16k in there for a play-off semi on a nice evening, and win a tense game you WILL get those people to Old Trafford, and a lot of them will come back. Success breeds success. Once crowds go up, the atmosphere improves and the matches feel more exciting, more of an event and people are more likely to part with their cash to be part of it. The trouble is, for the reciprocal of those reasons, low crowds are a tough cycle to break.
I actually think they're a symptom of the wider sport's image and PR too. You can look at the turn-out at Salford with their target population too. Leeds get good crowds, but look at the size of the pond we're fishing from. It might help therefore if other teams' fans (including, but not limited to) Leeds', stopped chelping at those of you who are turning up every week and started to think about the wider interests of the sport. If the product is hard to sell with a team playing as well as Huddersfield, there's a warning bell for other clubs that they shouldn't be too short-sighted to listen to.
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Good post.
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| An advertising board by the entrance to Kingsgate stating the next game date is a start
Or anywhere with high footfall
It's also something that we don't do now
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| Quote ="El Diablo"I think the key for you lot is for the club to capitalise on success. For instance, when the play-offs come around, what you really need, more than the gate money, is bums on seats. I think the RFL (who I believe largely control play-off ticket prices) have some responsibility here, which I'm sure they'll fail to discharge...
At Leeds we like to pretend that our crowds have been huge for as long as we can remember. This is, of course, not true, nad I can certainly remember times when crowds of 6-8k were pretty commonplace at Headingley.
You have to get the product to sell itself. Your stadium does you know favours. Half empty stadiums kill an atmosphere pretty well, but that can't be helped.
But, if you get 15-16k in there for a play-off semi on a nice evening, and win a tense game you WILL get those people to Old Trafford, and a lot of them will come back. Success breeds success. Once crowds go up, the atmosphere improves and the matches feel more exciting, more of an event and people are more likely to part with their cash to be part of it. The trouble is, for the reciprocal of those reasons, low crowds are a tough cycle to break.
I actually think they're a symptom of the wider sport's image and PR too. You can look at the turn-out at Salford with their target population too. Leeds get good crowds, but look at the size of the pond we're fishing from. It might help therefore if other teams' fans (including, but not limited to) Leeds', stopped chelping at those of you who are turning up every week and started to think about the wider interests of the sport. If the product is hard to sell with a team playing as well as Huddersfield, there's a warning bell for other clubs that they shouldn't be too short-sighted to listen to.
Rant ends.'"
good post.... massive point on the half empty stadium bit which alot of people forget and its why our crowds look so bad on tv.
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| I agree, the stadium does us no favours at all, in a smaller ground, 5/6,000 would look quite full and create a better atmosphere than having 5,000 spread out across 20,000 seats.
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| to me the stadium isnt the issue, town manage to get 10k in and they create a atmosphere with plenty of empty seats, so theres no reson why we cant aim for the 10k mark, in fact against saints the atmosphere was great with 5500 there, to me its all about price like daz says, i personally know 10 people who cite this as the reason they dont go to every game.
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| Quote ="goodie"to me the stadium isnt the issue, town manage to get 10k in and they create a atmosphere with plenty of empty seats, so theres no reson why we cant aim for the 10k mark, in fact against saints the atmosphere was great with 5500 there, to me its all about price like daz says, i personally know 10 people who cite this as the reason they dont go to every game.'"
we will never average 10k a season.. even if we win something.
you cant lower the gate price too much, otherwise people may aswell not bother buying a season ticket and a season ticket is the best way to help the club and also for the supporter supposed to be the cheapest way.
hudds town got 4700 for lastnights pre season friendly.. 300 short of what we got going top of the table on sunday, its a foootball town, how much publicity did the town game get..more than our game on sunday? dont believe so.
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"Has there been any feedback on these ?
Also, Brearley, there was 5,700 at our game so its 1,000 less not 300.'"
i know but 700 were from cas so 5000 were giants fans
doubt real betis brough that many to watch versus town
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| Good that they listen and that they have reduced prices but how are people going to know about em ?? this is why we need posters in town telling people who we play, when and how much !
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| to me dont understand and never have, why these special deals always require people to go to stadium to buy the tickets or on line purchase, wouldnt it make more sense to reduce the turnstile price on the day so people can just decide on the day to go.
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| Quote ="goodie"to me dont understand and never have, why these special deals always require people to go to stadium to buy the tickets or on line purchase, wouldnt it make more sense to reduce the turnstile price on the day so people can just decide on the day to go.'"
Good point or again, some kind of stall in town where the club can sell discounted tickets to people who just happen to pass by and see what its all about .....the 'fans' are gonna go anyway so its no good keeping it hidden away on the website where only the fans will see the offer..........GET INTO TOWN AND FLOG THE TICKETS !!
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| There is a club shop in the town centre, I have never understood why tickets could not be bought there.
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| As I read it the reduced prices are for advanced sales only. I really can not understand RL teams obsession with charging different prices for advance and on the day and hope it does not come back to haunt us as people turn up expecting to pay £10 or £15 and being asked for £24.
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| I didn't get a season ticket this year and following this announcement it will mean the only game I have paid full price for was cas. All the rest have been on deals.
I will be on around a £130 spend for the season.
Why doesn't the club make season tickets £130 and save us all the hassle.
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| To be honest I think the day when a SL team scraps a season ticket and runs things match by match is not far away.
If you have the funds and sponsorship to see you throigh the off season surely it is more beneficial to get cash in fortnight by fortnight rather than gatting a lump sum in Feb and not much after
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| well the club has listened to the fans that moan about the high price.... no excuse now... but i dont think it will make much difference at all.
agree about the pre purchase stuff, should just be on the turnstile pay its just another spanner in the works, some people just want to turn up on the day instead of having to pre purchase
and is it even worth getting a season ticket with all these deals through the season?!
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