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| we should send anderson to batley so next year 2 hookers 1 injured most of last season 2 1/2 backs one to coner the hookers role 2 fullbacks one again injured most of last year the 2nd to cover 1/2 back who also played in the semi remember that game we will have a big pack next year but nothing else
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| Quote ="40 year old giant"we should send anderson to batley so next year 2 hookers 1 injured most of last season 2 1/2 backs one to coner the hookers role 2 fullbacks one again injured most of last year the 2nd to cover 1/2 back who also played in the semi remember that game we will have a big pack next year but nothing else'"
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| right then, this seems hard to understand for some people but was an outstanding piece of business
Giants paid £x amount to Castleford for Eden a season ago
He had some very bad games in defence, some very dodgy decision making in attack and also some outstanding pieces of attacking rugby league
Anderson has stated that Murphy, Grix & even Cudjoe would come before Eden
Eden would not improve at Batley & would also be taking up a large amount of salary cap after his increased deal from last season to play for a national league side
Hull KR offering Eden more money than Giants and also the chance to be 1st choice full back gaining Super league experience each week
Hull Kr offer Giants (as an example) 10 x $x amount paid to Castleford
Giants stipulate that if Eden improves and goes on to be a world beater, we can take him back after a 2 year loan deal (I would imagine this will be if Eden also wants to come back & if we wan him back as the club runs a policy of only keeping players who want to play for the club)
This costs the club nothing.
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| Quote ="jools"HKR have agreed personal terms with Greg for three years.
HKR have agreed a fee with the Giants for two.
If Giants want him back after two years we get him - if not greg gets to stay on at KR on the terms he agreed for the final year - SIMPLES'"
Incorrect
He's a Rovers player for 3 seasons he even tweeted it himself
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| Just lock it now or this will go on forever. You know what they're like...
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| Eden his not on loan he his an HKR player all this we can call him back is a no no, after his deal expires we will have first refusal on him but it will be HIS choice not our if he comes back.
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| Who knows?
From our POV, I'd hope we'd at least have an option to buy out your option for pre-agreed top-up fee. Or at very least that you'd have to pay a pre-agreed fee to exercise your option.
I'm not a big fan of this sort of thing tbh - the Amor situation got a tiny bit messy, and the Iestyn Harris thing is infamous.
Loans and sales are fine - stuff in between means potential for confusion.
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| so offering him a better deal a few months ago was a bit of a waste of time then really ?
Could have saved even more money if we had realised back then he wasn't good enough, but hang on he must have been because he got a whopping big new contract......hmm, i'm confused now so i best shut up !
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| Its simple Daz the Coach did not rate him so out he goes simples.
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| i know that but the coach was here and involved in the coaching set up when he got his new deal, surely he could have explained to the club how he didnt rate him.
Considering he was going to be the coach the next year and would be looking to move him on then it could have saved the club some money rather than give him a raise for the last 5 months of the old coach's tenure ?
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| Quote ="jools"Touchy or what-The whole game is skint- difference is we are lucky to have a sugar daddy.
The key point -point 1) I made is that he isn't all that - so isn't going to attract a top fee.'" In other words.
'I have posted rubbish and I am now changing tack to hide the fact'
Gotcha.
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| Quote ="Danril"Just lock it now or this will go on forever. You know what they're like...'" Who's that then?
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"In other words.
'I have posted rubbish and I am now changing tack to hide the fact'
Gotcha.'"
No, just pointing out the rest of the comment I made, no change in tack, just you who has chosen to conveniently ignore the other point made.
With the exception of Daz- there isn't anyone on here wringing their hands in despair that he's gone to you.
You have got yourself a good little player with a heck of potential- but personally I agree with PA -he would be well down the pecking order at the giants.
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| Humberside ????? Is your website fella still in 1996 ???
Sorry to be so pedantic but its East Yorkshire,Humberside was abolished over 25 years ago !!!
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| 16 years ago. 2012 - 1996 = 16 not 25.
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| To true Yorkshire folk hull will always be humberside.
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"i know that but the coach was here and involved in the coaching set up when he got his new deal, surely he could have explained to the club how he didnt rate him.
Considering he was going to be the coach the next year and would be looking to move him on then it could have saved the club some money rather than give him a raise for the last 5 months of the old coach's tenure ?'"
And why not tout him for sale in September when clubs had more money and room on their salary cap as I guess at this stage only Hull KR could have fitted him in and I'd guess the actual price paid would reflect that.....seems like a decision made very recently to be honest and perhaps there is more to it than meets the eye.
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| Quote ="Wadski"16 years ago. 2012 - 1996 = 16 not 25.'"
lol sorry my bad,no defence at all for that maths job !!!
I was born in East yorkshire,lived in Humberside and then back to east yorkshire all without moving house !!!
BBC are just slack as we all know.
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| Maybe it's just a case of giants weren't really looking to sell- but KR came knocking so they thought why not?
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| Quote ="jools"Maybe it's just a case of giants weren't really looking to sell- but KR came knocking so they thought why not?'"
Perhaps as long as both sides are happy with the deal the ins and outs of it are not that important, I think people will be looking closely at how he does to see who got the best of it though.
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| Quote ="GiantsMassive"right then, this seems hard to understand for some people but was an outstanding piece of business
Giants paid £x amount to Castleford for Eden a season ago
He had some very bad games in defence, some very dodgy decision making in attack and also some outstanding pieces of attacking rugby league
Anderson has stated that Murphy, Grix & even Cudjoe would come before Eden
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This costs the club nothing.'"
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| Quote ="jools"Maybe it's just a case of giants weren't really looking to sell- but KR came knocking so they thought why not?'"
believe so yes.
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| Quote ="brearley84"exactly'"
Err! Not 'exactly' at all!
It is NOT a loan arrangement.
Greg Eden has signed a three year contract and Rovers have paid the Giants a fee for the transfer of his registration.
I do agree the 'clause' is misleading but I have it on good authority that it is a 'first refusal' option.
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| Quote ="Paul T - HKR"Err! Not 'exactly' at all!
It is NOT a loan arrangement.
Greg Eden has signed a three year contract and Rovers have paid the Giants a fee for the transfer of his registration.
I do agree the 'clause' is misleading but I have it on good authority that it is a 'first refusal' option.'"
ok forget the loan part
eden i very much doubt will return to the giants anyway.
time to move on, its a good deal for the giants which ever way its dressed up.
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