I dont really think he could be blamed for either try and for the disallowed one the Hull player had a run at the ball while Hodgson was under the ball so he was always going to struggle with that one.
Teams will always target certain players with kicks just like the Giants targetted Will Sharp. This may have had nothing to do with his defence more to do with kicking towards Hodgson on attack because he is such a good finisher.

As for taking high kicks in defence he is not brilliant but is far better than a lot of players. For instance Richard Whiting couldnt deal with Broughs bombs at all on sunday.

Thats a bit hasty isnt it PBG --youre already up for replacing him with a player you aint seen much of --and who you`re not sure is going into the squad???
Hell --he really IS up agin it!!

Hence why I said "if" Simpson is going to come into the squad!

Reason 1: this thread is about DH;
Reason 2: there's a MOM thread where most people give no 1 spot to DB.

My point exactly! The point i am trying to make is that i dont see the need for a thread everytime someone has an ok game. We have a MOM thread so if people think he did well, why not just write it in there?!

He had an ok game against Warrington and Castleford but didn't score any tries. He scores twice against Hull and gets slated for it on here - there is no pleasing some people. They expect him to play like a machine.

i agree, said the same thing earlier in the topic.

Who is slating him?!?!



Just as i dont agree with people unecessarily putting our players down, i dont think hyping up an individual for something that is expected is really necesary, are we going to start a thread when Horne doesnt knock in a game and say [i'where are all the knockers now' [/ihe didnt knock on!! its part of the game and something which is expected. Hodgsons tries were good, i wouldnt say they were better than Jermaines at Cas, as Brearly said why didnt we have a thread for that last week?

With statements like the above its like we are trying to wind each other up its stupid, we have enough people who like to have a go at us before we start doing it to ourselves

That would be the brilliant Pat Richards who made nearly half as many tackles and missed nearly twice as many as David Hodgson last season?

Hodgson is one of the best defensive wingers in Superleague.

ATEOTD he has played over 50 Superleague matches plus CCup under Nathan Brown, that would suggest that either :

a) he has some incriminating pictures of NB somewhere
or
b) he is much better than most of our fans rate him.

I know which I'd go for.

The reason i started the thread to give Hodgy some recognition was specifically because on virtually EVERY other thread someone has a go at him. i was trying to redress the balance.

I think in that i have succeeded. Hodgson might not be the worlds best winger but he has done agood job for us and will continue to do a good job until the end of the season. If he stays after that it will be NBs decision and i am happy to go along with that , whatever it is.

Just to quote Paul Cullen on Boots & ALL tonight.

"Sam Obst doesn't have the best kicking game in the world and they kick it straight to a top class international winger"

Yes David Hodgson.

And which club is Paul Cullen coaching at these days?

I'll say it again nobody disputes Davids attacking qualities. He has to be one of the best finishers in the comp (20+ tries last season) but his defence is poor! And he isnt alone. I can only think of 1 possibly 2 top quality defensive winger in SL (Joel Monaghan and Tom Briscoe). You will find that most wingers in the league can finish tries well and have good attacking skills but most struggle with defense.

With DH you are as likley to see him score two tries as you are to see him conceed two tries. He is terrible under the high ball (but then again most wingers are)!

And before anyone starts I have no personal agenda about David Hodgson. I will support him at the club and cheer for him etc but the above is my opinion.

pretty poor game from hodgson again... should of stopped purdham getting the ball out for there first try.

dropped ball under the high ball again



and seems we still have problems down that side with ball going into touch/to ground , dropping lawrence for gilmour still didnt help

Every season the 'fans' of the Giants pick a couple of players that no matter what can do nothing good or right.

Inevitably there is a winger and another Player.

Wingers mistakes are ALWAYS easy to sieze on, it's always the last thing in a set that happens either a try scored or a try missed so it's easy to point out the errors.

When was the last time we had a winger no one grumbled about?

you are right about the wingers bit.

When Aspinwall came back from his injury he was a scapegoat everyone said Too slow.

I remember when it was Dave Hooson runs like a crab or Ken senior too old.

The only time we dont get on the wingers back is when we can blame the full back. Chris Thorman anyone





The other problem that we have at the minute is that wingers and centres have to work as a team. A poor winger with a good centre can look really good Ade Gardener

looked like a world beater as you would with Jamie Lyon and that other aussie inside you.

Also centre and Wing partnerships take time to develop. We have had lots of changes in this area and still do not seem to know who are our best combinations. Yesterday Gilly threw a pass into touch whose fault was it

Gilly for not looking, Hodgy for coming inside, both of them or just the fact that they were not used to playing with each other. ( note to Nathan get them both in the bath together with a bar of soap that will get them working as a team as neither will want to drop the soap).


Leroy , lawrence, jerry, Gilly, hodgson what is the best combination. Losing Fatz was a blow to us and i think that is coming home to us now. Hopefully Simpson can plug the gap and allow us to have a bit of consistency.

agree there durham... we need to find the right combos

cudjoe/mcgillvary seems to be doing ok at the moment but not the other side.

maybe simpson is the answer...if not can we have whatuira back or just throw lolesi on

I can see one of the second rowers moving to centre tbh , why have signed so many as they are so versatile, fast, good hands, strong and good tacklers, maybe Dale Ferguson will be a centre at the Giants?

the problem isnt who his centre is it is him, his defence is cringeworthy at times, gilmour and lawerence together on one side and cudjoe Mcgilvary on the other and Hodgeson nowhere near the first team, his time has past

yeah thats spot on,lets drop the only true world class finisher we have and the top scorer for just about every club he's played for including every season he's played for us because he like every other player drops a ball or missed a tackle!!
jeez i despair with our fans sometimes.

I have just do the player head to head stats. on SLsite of McGiv v/s Hodgson...- v interesting and I expected McGivs to better than Hodgons ...but it was by much more than I thought.

Quote ="Run leroy , run !"I have just do the player head to head stats. on SLsite of McGiv v/s Hodgson...- v interesting and I expected McGivs to better than Hodgons ...but it was by much more than I thought.'" Here is the link. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011

Quote ="Run leroy , run !"I have just do the player head to head stats. on SLsite of McGiv v/s Hodgson...- v interesting and I expected McGivs to better than Hodgons ...but it was by much more than I thought.'" Here is the link. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011

interesting:

carries:
hodgson 32-45 mcgillvary
metres:
hodgson 181-399 mcgillvary
tackles:
hodgson 14-14 mcgillvary
missed tackles:
hodgson 3-3 mcgillvary
offloads:
hodgson 2-2 mcgillvary
runs from dummy half:
hodgson 8-2 mcgillvary
errors:
hodgson3-4 mcgillvary

are just a select few but i think what it shows is that they are 2 different types of wingers, jerry is more direct with ball in hand whereas hodgy is more workmanlike,coming into the middle to take the ball up for example,both made the same amount of tackles,both missed the same,both made more or less the same errors yet hodgson is the one who gets lambasted every day ?

Jerry has the potential to be something very, very special if he carries on, Hodgy is a seasoned pro and scores trys like clockwork

Some people on here would have shipped the likes of Offiah off for being rubbish in defence

Ian Thomas wouldn't have even got a squad number with this lot