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| Welcome to DF, and i hope Jammer is soon on the mend,
with DF now a giant i do think this will help create more competition for the outside backs, the 2nd row is more competative within the giants ranks then any ther super league club, we can now boast a strong competative back line, with 12 players in the first team squad (not including Grix / E Hodgson / Mcnally at fullback) all hoping to get the nod on the 4 available starting shirts.
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| Quote ="Ceejames" Over the weekend we have read on the wakey website and direct quotes in the press about a new owner. Even that the new owner had addressed the players! Now we discover the administrator is still the 'acting owner'. [uNo wonder a young player like Ferguson wants to go to a stable , well coached club. [/uI would sugar coat this paragraph but I lack diplomatic skills
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There you are, a simple quote even from a simple person thats all it should have taken, I notice from your reply you did not go to Cardiff at the weekend,just an observation.
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| Quote ="dickie mint"There you are, a simple quote even from a simple person thats all it should have taken, I notice from your reply you did not go to Cardiff at the weekend,just an observation.'"
You observe wrong old lad. Try not to draw conclusions - you have no talent for it. I enjoyed both days in Cardiff. Do try and keep up.
Are you going to question wildcatowl for prattling on about 'shame' on a thread about Ferguson?
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| WE are building a very strong squad and another excellent addition to our squad.
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| Quote ="Ivor C&G Scarf"I feel sorry for Wake though. At least a 4 point deduction [probably and now losing their top players, the future is even bleaker than before. I hope the new owner puts some money in and they can rebuild - albeit in a division below - as we have had to do [many times!. Even Fax are bouncing back.
As has been said, if we hadn't signed Ferguson another SL club would have.'"
I feel sorry for some of the childish crap we have to endure on here Ivor in the name of discussion !
Like Hodgson - hes left one club - and joined another for whatever reasons .
Its happened - and it`ll be a good move for someone and a bad move for others .
Time will tell at season end !
Now lets just play the game the best we can each week and get on with it
We really cant influence either ours or Wakeys future
We can only support the Giants the best we can and Wakey fans the same for the wildcats. thas it !
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| Quote ="Ivor C&G Scarf"I[u feel sorry for Wake though.[/u At least a 4 point deduction [probably and now losing their top players, the future is even bleaker than before. I hope the new owner puts some money in and they can rebuild - albeit in a division below - as we have had to do [many times!. Even Fax are bouncing back.
As has been said, if we hadn't signed Ferguson another SL club would have.'"
For a few i agree. But the shudds / ken = sugar daddy / teapot / shame on us for signing Ferguson etc wakey fans deserve little sympathy.
Ferguson is a good quality prospect. He will benefit from being coached by NB, conditioned by Watson and learning from fa'alogo and O'Donnell.
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| Quote ="Ceejames"For a few i agree. But the shudds / ken = sugar daddy / teapot / shame on us for signing Ferguson etc wakey fans deserve little sympathy.
Ferguson is a good quality prospect. He will benefit from being coached by NB, conditioned by Watson and learning from fa'alogo and O'Donnell.'"
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| seconded!!
for those people who did and still do call my club i'm glad yours is dying and i hope it is bloody painful for you ....... bet ya wish you had someone to merge with yourselves now dont ya ....like i always said at the time what goes around ....etc
for those who are true honest honourable members of the RL family i feel sorry for you that your beloved club is on its knees i hope for your sake's your club gets saved and goes on to prosper like mine did after that 'era' the fools keep reverting to !!
oh and welcome to the Fartown family Dale !!!
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for those people who did and still do call my club i'm glad yours is dying and i hope it is bloody painful for you ....... bet ya wish you had someone to merge with yourselves now dont ya ....like i always said at the time what goes around ....etc
for those who are true honest honourable members of the RL family i feel sorry for you that your beloved club is on its knees i hope for your sake's your club gets saved and goes on to prosper like mine did after that 'era' the fools keep reverting to !!
oh and welcome to the Fartown family Dale !!!'"
look at this link on how to win friends and influence people. NOT.
viewtopic.php?f=33&t=482789&p=15847373#p15847373
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for those people who did and still do call my club i'm glad yours is dying and i hope it is bloody painful for you ....... bet ya wish you had someone to merge with yourselves now dont ya ....like i always said at the time what goes around ....etc
for those who are true honest honourable members of the RL family i feel sorry for you that your beloved club is on its knees i hope for your sake's your club gets saved and goes on to prosper like mine did after that 'era' the fools keep reverting to !!
oh and welcome to the Fartown family Dale !!!'"
look at this link on how to win friends and influence people. NOT.
viewtopic.php?f=33&t=482789&p=15847373#p15847373
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| GIANT DAZ wrote:seconded!!
for those people who did and still do call my club i'm glad yours is dying and i hope it is bloody painful for you ....... bet ya wish you had someone to merge with yourselves now dont ya ....like i always said at the time what goes around ....etc
for those who are true honest honourable members of the RL family i feel sorry for you that your beloved club is on its knees i hope for your sake's your club gets saved and goes on to prosper like mine did after that 'era' the fools keep reverting to !!
very arrogant, no respect, I sincerley hope as some you say "what goes around comes around" and the same happens to your club it might drag you off the high horse youve put yourselves on while you strut around.
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| Quote ="rednwhite"GIANT DAZ wrote:seconded!!
for those people who did and still do call my club i'm glad yours is dying and i hope it is bloody painful for you ....... bet ya wish you had someone to merge with yourselves now dont ya ....like i always said at the time what goes around ....etc
for those who are true honest honourable members of the RL family i feel sorry for you that your beloved club is on its knees i hope for your sake's your club gets saved and goes on to prosper like mine did after that 'era' the fools keep reverting to !!
very arrogant, no respect, I sincerley hope as some you say "what goes around comes around" and the same happens to your club it might drag you off the high horse youve put yourselves on while you strut around.'"
I think he's being respectful to those who respected him and being disrespectful to those who disrespected him.
Simples.
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| not a high horse at all.....i've watched my club escape closure 3 times !! my problem was when our 2 clubs were equal on and off the pitch the Wakey fans couldn't wait to give my club over the merger and the fact we werent relegated.
Some of the stuff and names our board and fans were called during this time was appaling and a disgrace............i wish all true Wakefield fans all the best and hope the club survives for them ...for the others, and they know who they are, i have no sympathy that they now may not have much of a club left to support ......they probably didnt expect it to come to this while they were dishing the abuse and disrepect at my club and now my club pulled itself up and is now a highly regarded, respected club were expected to have some sympathy for the people who wished death onto my club !!!.
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| Why would we be looking at Wakey's juniors? We've already invested heavily in our juniors and aside from our U16's Wakey's were the only bunch not to have any selected for the recent rep series. Methinks someone is talking trousers. Always someone else's fault, always poking at others and looking for sympathy themselves. There must be a shed load of broken mirrors in Bigbabyland, Hypocriteshire.
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| Quote ="rednwhite":3i0oynp8
very arrogant, no respect, I sincerley hope as some you say "what goes around comes around" and the same happens to your club it might drag you off the high horse youve put yourselves on while you strut around.'" :3i0oynp8
Why arrogant? Because he is sick of numbskull wakey posters insulting and deriding our chairman. A man who loves the game and his club!
These same wakey fans who bagged a huddersfield sugar daddy and then wet themselves when they thought a very rich guy would buy them
Over the weekend we have read on the wakey website and direct quotes in the press about a new owner. Even that the new owner had addressed the players! Now we discover the administrator is still the 'acting owner'. No wonder a young player like Ferguson wants to go to a stable , well coached club. I would sugar coat this paragraph but I lack diplomatic skills '"
got to agree with you on that ceejames, many times some of the wakey fans start it, the poster you are talking about shows that, as do a lot of threads about wakey on their forum that some of their fans use to pull down cas mostly but other teams as well.
as for calling giants vultures and saying they should be ashamed being a cas fan i know what its like to be picked clean by teams including wakey looking for cheap bargains but do i blame the teams, no i don't its business, wakey fans say it is different because they weren't relegated like we were but shopping for bargains is the same no matter what the situation is, congrats to hudds by the way on your captures and i hope they do well for you except for if they play against us then i hope they play rubbish
(only joking guys), i'd much rather win or lose against a hudds team playing well than win or lose against one playing absolute rubbish. as ceejames has already stated some wakey fans were quick to come on our forums when they got opp gloating, also hull, catalans and quins are just doing what all teams do and building their squad, no wakey fan could honestly say hand on heart that had this happened to another team then their team would not go there looking for a bargain if they needed players, because anyone who does say wtwc wouldn't would be lying.
anyway for a bit of banter we look forward to beating you saturday
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"not a high horse at all.....i've watched my club escape closure 3 times !! my problem was when our 2 clubs were equal on and off the pitch the Wakey fans couldn't wait to give my club poop over the merger and the fact we werent relegated.
Some of the stuff and names our board and fans were called during this time was appaling and a disgrace............i wish all true Wakefield fans all the best and hope the club survives for them ...for the others, and they know who they are, i have no sympathy that they now may not have much of a club left to support ......they probably didnt expect it to come to this while they were dishing the abuse and disrepect at my club and now my club pulled itself up and is now a highly regarded, respected club were expected to have some sympathy for the people who wished death onto my club !!!.'"
but we still havnt merged or been relegated from sl.
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| Quote ="rednwhite"GIANT DAZ wrote:seconded!!
for those people who did and still do call my club i'm glad yours is dying and i hope it is bloody painful for you ....... bet ya wish you had someone to merge with yourselves now dont ya ....like i always said at the time what goes around ....etc
for those who are true honest honourable members of the RL family i feel sorry for you that your beloved club is on its knees i hope for your sake's your club gets saved and goes on to prosper like mine did after that 'era' the fools keep reverting to !!
very arrogant, no respect, I sincerley hope as some you say "what goes around comes around" and the same happens to your club it might drag you off the high horse youve put yourselves on while you strut around.'"
We've been there...for far too many years to remember.
When you're having crowds of 400 THEN you'll have gone [ihalf[/i the circle that we've been through. I sincerely hope you don't have to endure that.
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| Having just read some of the disgusting garbage on the Wakey board about us vulturing their juniors, it makes me want the worst for Wakey. I really can't be bothered any more with them.
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| There's some great blokes I've met on here that are Wakey fans who I feel sorry for, but although there's Wakey tosspots trying to have a go at our club for helping them out by taking a player off their hands I'd still like to see Wakey carry on in SL, new stadium or not.
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"but we still havnt merged or been relegated from sl.'"
You're right. You've cheated, you've lied repeatedly, you've totally disregarded your suppliers, supporters and investors, you've created a great big hole for yourself and promptly dropped in it and blamed everybody else.
I think these are much, much worse.
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| You're not wrong. That thread's a disgrace. There are the torn off limbs of teddy bears all over the place. I suppose we'll still be a set of sh*thouses if we loan them a few players for the rest of the season too.
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| It's a complete joke. Vitriolic bile and it shows just how little some of their fans know. Throwing insults about mergers about and not seeing the hypocrisy of that. Crying how we have a sugar daddy and drawing up a shopping list for Mr Glover at the same time. It's a Huddersfield lad that's saving them too, I suppose when they lose a couple and that filters through they'll turn on him too.
Best academy a few years ago? Ha ha! Nope. The best academies tend to loan out their best lads to Championship or even SL sides. Sides like Wigan, Leeds, Saints; THEY have the best academies. The only reason Wakey lifted the pot that year was due to them not loaning out all their best kids, which gave them a pot but hindered the development of their kids.
They see what they want to see. They blame who they want to blame. Anyone but themselves. Then next week they'll be knocking on Ken's door, cap in hand, begging to loan a few players. Or maybe we'll be magnanamous and go and offer them a few on loan. After all, it will help their development and Wakey couldn't do any worse. Our kids did after all beat their first team in their own back yard a few weeks ago, not that we have a decent youth set up according to them.
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| Quote ="PONNER"There's some great blokes I've met on here that are Wakey fans who I feel sorry for, but although there's Wakey tosspots trying to have a go at our club for helping them out by taking a player off their hands I'd still like to see Wakey carry on in SL, new stadium or not.'"
Hear hear.
There are some Wakefield supporters who are the essence of all that is good about Rugby League. They way these people have worked to raise money for good causes, worked to assist and grow WTW as a club into the community is to be commended.
Then you have the d!ckheads who are jealous of what Ken Davy and Huddersfield Giants have achieved. I raise this specifically because there is bile being spat over Hull KR, Catalans, Quins and Hull FC who have also signed Wakefield players - that's just reserved for us. Hopefully our 'unpaid helpers' will come along and issue a few bans to rid us of these scumbags before the RFL do it permanently!.
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| Quote ="PONNER"There's some great blokes I've met on here that are Wakey fans who I feel sorry for, but although there's Wakey tosspots trying to have a go at our club for helping them out by taking a player off their hands I'd still like to see Wakey carry on in SL, new stadium or not.'"
I agree with you one hundred percent. I could never undertstand the views of some of our posters who seemed so vehemently anti wakefield.. I was not on the messageboards when we were having our bad times so did not understand where all the hostility came from. yet after the last couple of days i can now understand it.
I have always tried to manage what were the worst excesses and the number of PMs i have had from our posters since starting to be a mod accusing me of being "pro wakefield" or "cosying up to my wakefield friends" was riduculous. even when raising money for the Adam Watene fund people had a go.
But after reading all the crap over the last couple of days on their site having a go at the Giants, Ken Davy or whoever was too much. If this is a only a % of what crap Giants had to put up with from some of the anti huddersfield brigade i can now understand why some of our posters hate Wakey with a vengeance.
I will not go down that route because i have met some great Wakey fans ( spent ages talking to two of them at Cardiff last week) but it has now got to the stage where i agree with ivor
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Having just read some of the disgusting garbage on the Wakey board about us vulturing their juniors, it makes me want the worst for Wakey. I really can't be bothered any more with them. '"
When someone as reasonable and as knowledgable as Ivor feels like that how can you disagree.
As far as i am concerned now they are on their own sod them . I wonder whether it was worth the hassle i have had in the past.
Good luck to the decent Wakey fans they deserve better than they have got . as for the rest ( i will refrain from saying what i realy want to.)
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| I wonder if Ken has put an offer in for the Wildcat Dolls or their groundsman - both very good at what they do.
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