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| on tonights boots n all , paul cullen said that the giants were not doing anything different to any other team in super league , only that the giants have perfected holding down at ptb , terry oconnor said also that it is part of the game to help set the defence , just a publicity thing by walters , it dont mean nothing
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| Quote ="digger"You're kidding aren't you? Saints have had a great defence all through Super League - it doesn't get much attention because they've always had a great attack - but part of a great defence is playing right up to the margins on slowing down the play the ball. '"
Sure we have had a good defence. Anderson did that for us. But it has slowed right down. We timed it well under the old system of speedy PTBs, from which we would scoot, but three men in, peeling off, taking heaven knows how many seconds to peel off: we weren't in that style at all. Also, we have not operated a compressed defence like you, which acts as a moving wall. It can leave your edges vulnerable, which Wire exploited in the Challenge Cup final but we failed to do in the semi. A sound kicking game can screw you but we haven't had one of those for a few years now. It appears that what we are capable of doing, however, is bringing an element of your defensive game to you, which we did on Saturday night in that we were in your faces for the full 80. We didn't operate a compressed defence, but we did make sure you couldn't get an attack going. It was a very effective means of beating you and one which everyone will have watched.
I've probably not explained myself any better this time around but I know what I mean, even if no-one else does!
On the point about Walters, I think he's been quite clever actually. He's issued a challenge to Ganson, the RFL (by association) and your coach. People will be watching in the light of what he said, and judging the play accordingly. I'm looking forward to the match even more, now.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Sure we have had a good defence. Anderson did that for us. But it has slowed right down. We timed it well under the old system of speedy PTBs, from which we would scoot, but three men in, peeling off, taking heaven knows how many seconds to peel off: we weren't in that style at all. Also, we have not operated a compressed defence like you, which acts as a moving wall. It can leave your edges vulnerable, which Wire exploited in the Challenge Cup final but we failed to do in the semi. A sound kicking game can screw you but we haven't had one of those for a few years now. It appears that what we are capable of doing, however, is bringing an element of your defensive game to you, which we did on Saturday night in that we were in your faces for the full 80. We didn't operate a compressed defence, but we did make sure you couldn't get an attack going. It was a very effective means of beating you and one which everyone will have watched.
I've probably not explained myself any better this time around but I know what I mean, even if no-one else does!
On the point about Walters, I think he's been quite clever actually. He's issued a challenge to Ganson, the RFL (by association) and your coach. People will be watching in the light of what he said, and judging the play accordingly. I'm looking forward to the match even more, now.
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I think he's running scared and trying to use mind games, akin to Potter with the semi. We not only played a weakened team last Saturday but we played people in different positions.
I think Brown was keeping people guessing, and if we win Friday we could be quite a different proposition come the semi's to what was seen in week 1 of the play offs.
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| Great motivation for the Hudds players! Well done Mr Walters.
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| I just hope we don't go OTT with it!
I think he's partly done this to put some needle in us so we maybe will go too far, and also to try and influence the ref. It just galls me that a side with the worst discipline in the league is complaining about our tactics.
I really, really hope we beat them and that Brown comes out with some kind of retort post match in his inimitable fashion. First and foremost though, we need the win.
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| Quote ="Birkbygiant"I think he's running scared and trying to use mind games, akin to Potter with the semi. We not only played a weakened team last Saturday but we played people in different positions. '"
Potter didn't speak before the semi, so far as I can remember. He spoke after it. Not that us Saints fans wanted him to, but he spoke anyway.
As for you fielding a weakened team ... we could say exactly the same thing about the semi and it would be true. We had injuries up to our armpits and people played out of position. Is that why we lost or were you the better team?
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| Oh put a cork in it will you. You're like a little kid.
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| I like the way he speaks for everyone. You tend to find that with these kinds of people.
Anyway [url=http://www.examiner.co.uk/huddersfield-giants/huddersfield-giants-news/2009/09/24/giants-coach-hits-back-at-catalans-dragons-boss-in-wrestle-mania-spat-86081-24769864/here[/url is Brown's response.
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| Quote ="Baron Greenback"Oh put a cork in it will you. You're like a little kid.'"
When a good response cannot be found, resort to insults.
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| Quote ="Danril"I like the way he speaks for everyone. You tend to find that with these kinds of people. '"
Where did I speak for everyone? And what kind of person am I? Have we met IRL?
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You just don't get it, do you.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Where did I speak for everyone? And what kind of person am I? Have we met IRL?'"
We did this, we did that, we are the other. Not that us Saints fans wanted x or y. That's not speaking for yourself, is it son. That's speaking for all Saints fans, and I dare say they don't want you to do that all things being equal.
If I were a Saints fan I certainly wouldn't want you speaking for me, put it that way.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Where did I speak for everyone? And what kind of person am I? Have we met IRL?'"
Your interntet/message board persona is that of an idiot.
HTH.
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| as paul cullen and tez o'connor said on boots n all last night every team does it,every coach coaches it,we are just better than everyone else.
surely the job of a coach is to coach his players to win games? so if that means negating the opposition tactics then so be it.
the RFL have backed us already this season by saying we are doing nothing against the rules
chin up walters you might be as good as nathan brown soon
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| I liked the clips it showed of the Catalans after Walters comments were mentioned. Example after example of them slowing down the PTB using the wrestle.
Like Nathan Brown has said, Walters is just playing the mind games and trying to influence the ref. Ganson isn't one for that kind of stuff though, I hope it's put his nose out of joint a bit so that he ends up nailing Catalan instead. That would be, IMO, just desserts!
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| Quote ="Danril"I liked the clips it showed of the Catalans after Walters comments were mentioned. Example after example of them slowing down the PTB using the wrestle.
Like Nathan Brown has said, Walters is just playing the mind games and trying to influence the ref. Ganson isn't one for that kind of stuff though, I hope it's put his nose out of joint a bit so that he ends up nailing Catalan instead. That would be, IMO, just desserts!'"
every team does it dan, cullen could spend an hour showing every clubs "discrepancies"
but like i've said before people will always find something to try and put us down
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| Aye, and it's a shame.
They harp on about our defence and how it's out of order. Us being 4th on the try scorers list, five behind Wigan (I think) has gone totally unnoticed. And people parp on about how Wigan can play lovely when they want to etc etc. Well we've scored some corking tries this season from all over the park. Not one word mentioned about that, not one word.
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| Quote ="Danril"Aye, and it's a shame.
They harp on about our defence and how it's out of order. Us being 4th on the try scorers list, just one behind Wigan (I think) has gone totally unnoticed. And people parp on about how Wigan can play lovely when they want to etc etc. Well we've scored some corking tries this season from all over the park. Not one word mentioned about that, not one word.'"
exactly!
its still that "only huddersfield" mentality that prevails among a lot of rl types
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| Quote ="meast"exactly!
its still that "only huddersfield" mentality that prevails among a lot of rl types'"
Don't forget we were lucky enough to Merge with Sheffield and have two squads to pick from and two clubs worth of money.
Teams like Sheffield and Warrington should be credited for that.
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| Just shows how stupuid some people are if they think the merger was anything to do with us fans or is something any of us consider a good thing.
The merger damn near killed us. We are still sufferng with the legacy of the merger now, from within the town and from opposition supporters who have no brains and a high level of bitterness.
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| Quote ="Wadski"Don't forget we were lucky enough to Merge with Sheffield and have two squads to pick from and two clubs worth of money.
Teams like Sheffield and Warrington should be credited for that.'"
i shot a reply of to that pillock lets see if they print it in full
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| Quote ="Danril"We did this, we did that, we are the other. Not that us Saints fans wanted x or y. That's not speaking for yourself, is it son. That's speaking for all Saints fans, and I dare say they don't want you to do that all things being equal. '"
Saying 'not that us ...' does not indicate speaking for all Saints fans. It suggests we were not consulted.
And I am not male.
Quote If I were a Saints fan I certainly wouldn't want you speaking for me, put it that way.'"
Good job you aren't a Saints fan, then!
However, based on this quote from your post, I'd say your real problem is an inferiority complex:
Quote They harp on about our defence and how it's out of order. Us being 4th on the try scorers list, five behind Wigan (I think) has gone totally unnoticed. And people parp on about how Wigan can play lovely when they want to etc etc. Well we've scored some corking tries this season from all over the park. Not one word mentioned about that, not one word. '"
Bless.
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| Quote ="Danril"Put your tits back in and move away from the keyboard.
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God, you're a sad excuse for a rugby league fan.
Thank God I met some nice Hudds fans at the semi and the match last weekend or else I'd think you were all knobs.
However, I do now hope you get seriously stuffed by Catalans.
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| I hope you get stuffed, you certainly seem like you could use a good stuffing.
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| Can we get this back on topic before it gets locked. Mick
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