Don't bank on that. We do have players to whom the Grand Final is important. If it is sufficiently important to those players then Hudds will be beaten on Saturday. What is lacking from our team is motivation, not form.

What other indication of form do you have other than results? Here mate, Saints are a class team but anyone who says that their current form is good needs to lay off the glue.

They only lose when they can't be a4sed to win, eh. Sweet. So do we.

We have only lost one more match than we did in 2007. Would you have said we were not on form then (since you are judging form by results)? We won the Challenge Cup, league leaders and made it to the Grand Final in 2007.

Our present troubles are nothing to do with form.

That's a really weak argument IMO. You're talking about an entire season which is no relevance to your current form.

In your last 4 games you've lost three and beaten our kids by two points in the other.

I'd give up now before you look even sillier.

too late

and whats the betting you wont win again?
and the smugness will slowly drift away from this board.
mind you for a team thats won nothing for years its to be expected.

For someone harping on about supposed smugness you're not doing so bad yourself, are you.

OMG!!!!!!!!! We stand absolutely no chance on Saturday, we'll be lucky if we keep Saints below 100, it's going to be so painful I will not be able to bear to watch. I just hope our plucky but outclassed players wear sun-glasses to protect their eyes from the glare of the sheer god-like presence of the Saints players as they glide past us for try after try.

I was going to get 4 tickets for the game today but I'm not so sure now...

The good news is, because of the glare of the sun shining out their backsides, Sean Long won't be featuring.

saints 13
huddersfield 16 cudjoe to score in the last minute

St Helens v Huddersfield Giants 6pm (SKY)
Ref R Silverwood TJ T Martin TJ P Brooke VR I Smith RR W Turley RTJ C Sharrad MC D Campbell

Ref Silverwood, Video Ref Smith, owt could happen cos billy smarts finest will be on parade yet again.

Will be a good game, I would imagine it will be close but think we might just do enough to take the spoils.

Played well against Wigan but hard to judge cos they didn't seem interested, i would imagine Saints will be a little tougher to break down but am backing us.

May the best team win

oh you have a car then do you?...you must be one of the lucky ones, i thought you all had horse and carts in huddersfield..

Strike 2.

smugness?? bit harsh tht aint it

i dont see smugness, just a pride in our club that supporters of established clubs will never,ever remotely come close to having.

most of us on here you see, were at fartown,most of us were there every time this club nearly went bust,most of us on here were there when we left fartown and most of us were here when ken davy rescued the club from oblivion (again!) we were there when the brave new world of the mcalpine stadium opened,there in the first years of super league when we were a total embarrassment,and not being relegated just worsened the situation, then the stupid pathetic "merger"

we've come out of the other end stronger as supporters,stronger as a club.
so when you've seen your club struggle for 20 years on and off the pitch then i think having some pride for what this lot have acheived is very much allowed.
makes me laugh when supporters of other clubs moan and whinge when they dont make a cup final or get into the play offs, jeez try sitting there knowing if your club is going to be there the next morning

rant over thanks for listeining

Spot on Meast.

What?
Our present troubles are everything to do with form. It's been awful, week on week I've been saying well we can't get any worse, we have to play better next week but, alas, we don't. We've been in terrible form of late, there's no denying that. Our only saving grace however is that form counts for very little in PlayOffs and GFs, you've just gotta be good enough on the night. We owe Hudds one for knocking us out the CC (by playing some very good rugby might I add) and I hope we use that as motivation to win this game. We need to use our wingers more as that's where Hudds quite often fall short. If we can get quick balls out there, we should be fine. However, having watched the Catalans game if we pass like we did then we'll get nowhere. I'll be hoping and praying we win, but I won't be surprised if we lose. Hoping to see a good few Giants fans coming up to watch the game, should be a good'un.

Sheesh. Go back and read the rest of what I posted. Then you wont have to ask 'what?' but instead will know the answer!

If their form was bad then no way would they have been able to play like they did against Leeds. They are fooked up thanks to Potter's penchant for changing them around every bleeding match, their team spirit has gone west and their motivation with it. Except at Leeds, when despite bumping into each other when approaching the tryline (thanks, Harry, for fooking up the team), they looked almost like their old selves.

I've read what you said and still disagree. Out of our last 10 games we have managed just 4 wins. The last time we had a run like that was a good few years back. But, no, that's good form in your eyes.



Every team can lift for the big games, it doesnn't mean that they're on a run of good form, it means that they are human! We lifted for Leeds but STILL we lacked cohesion in attack which cost us the game. Same story at HKR when we had ample chance to score but still failed to do so. When you get the chance, 80% of the time you should be able to apply decent pressure to the defensive line and SHOULD score off the back of that pressure. Unfortunately, cohesion in attack is not our strong point and hasn't been for quite some time and that may be what will cost us come Saturday.

Don't be silly. I said it wasn't to do with form, not that we had good form.


Absolutely. But that's because we didn't know what we were doing, not because we had poor form. We bumped into each other for crying out loud! And in the RL press this week, Longy has reported that they have been playing different positions (again!) and so he (and I'm sure the whole lot of them) doesn't know whether he is 'coming or going'. They looked confused at Leeds, not off form. If Potter would just stop playing around with the team then they would perform just fine. But he's been doing it all flippin season, even before injuries hit, and it's done precious little but cause trouble.

Talk about flogging a dead horse.

He's signed for another year.

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Whats the opinion on here on Moore and Mason getting banned for such a big game? I realise that what they did was wrong, but they both missed last week, and I feel that was punishment enough.