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| Quote ="sgtwilko"It's rugby league not tiddlywinks!! saints gave as good as they got in the niggle and came off second best to the hardest, nastiest, fastest most skillful team in the league! most of you a scared or gelous!! That's why your little rants are so funny'"
If they are so hard, fast and skilful, why do they need to be the nastiest? Sure, all RL fans want to see strong tackling and big hits, but I'm not sure most sane people want to see smashed faces and broken bones. Let's leave that to the yawnion players.
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| Link [urlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/article.php?id=15250[/url
[iLeeds trio face charges
Monday 7th September 09
Leeds Rhinos have a trio of disciplinary worries hanging over their defence of the engage Super League title.
Centre Keith Senior, second rower Jamie Jones-Buchanan and prop forward Kylie Leuluai have all been summoned to appear before the Rugby Football League’s disciplinary committee tomorrow on charges resulting from Friday’s fiery win over St Helens.
Jones-Buchanan has been cited by the RFL match review panel for an alleged “chicken-wing” tackle, a technique that placed undue pressure on the shoulder joint of St Helens prop James Graham.
Senior is accused of punching St Helens second rower Jon Wilkin, an offence for which he was sin-binned, while Leuluai has been charged with a high tackle on Graham.
They are all grade C charges, which carry suspensions of up to four matches, and could have a major impact on the Grand Final series.
Leeds finish the regular season at Salford Reds on Friday, needing a point to ensure a first-place finish, before embarking on the play-offs.
Leeds centre Lee Smith also received a caution for a high tackle on Saints second rower Lee Gilmour in Friday’s match, which the Rhinos won 18-10.
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Reckon Senior will get off the other 2 may get a game ban and a letter telling them off.
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| I Reckon jjb will get a game and kylie and keef will get a fine.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"I Reckon jjb will get a game and kylie and keef will get a fine.'"
A fine Friday evenings work then Sgt? Love to see big hits ect but........
Cannot stand foul or dirty play and runts ranting at the ref every decision that goes against em, such as Diskin and worse still McGuire, Sinfield I can understand as captain but the rest of em!!!!!!!
Green eyed envy if ya wanna believe that, Leeds are a good side but stuff went on against Saints that has no place in the game.
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| Quote ="FLYINGPROP"A fine Friday evenings work then Sgt? Love to see big hits ect but........
Cannot stand foul or dirty play and runts ranting at the ref every decision that goes against em, such as Diskin and worse still McGuire, Sinfield I can understand as captain but the rest of em!!!!!!!
Green eyed envy if ya wanna believe that, Leeds are a good side but stuff went on against Saints that has no place in the game.'" I think you are totally deluded!! apart from the jjb tackle the rest was fair game and nothing different than what you get week in week out in sl, nl1, nrl.
Nice of you to ignore the most blatent profesionl foul you could ever see by pryce!!go back and watch the sky coverage again! And also listen!! even Before the saints kick off you can hear quite clear Cunningham moaning to the ref about Leeds!! This I repeat is before kick off, Bentham laughs and says "we haven't started yet just get on with it" saints are at the ref before the kick off which has to be some sort of record even lee briers as not achieved!! What about wellens screaming stuff at the ref and touchy, throwing his arms around after halls first try!! Also wilkin trying to smash hall In the head after he scored his second try?? what about pryce face slam on disco!! what about wilkin attacking jjb from behind when FGB had hold of him?? what about wilkin trying to ram seniors head into the floor which caused the last bit of biff?? Use your ears again and listen to long after Keith gets put in the bin saying to Bentham "you better make sure he gets two matches for that, you need to put him on report, I bet you he gets two matches"??
You need to take your blinkers off and your ear plugs out!! saints were just as bad on the night!! personally I think it's fair dink em!! but I see it from both sides not just one!! Don't pretend to be a neutral when you have just totally ignored what saints do and made out Leeds are the only team at it!!
It's so transparent that you hate Leeds !! Get over it!!
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| Quote ="Birkbygiant"Reckon Senior will get off the other 2 may get a game ban and a letter telling them off.'"
Senior and JJB got 1 match ban and all 3 were fined 300 quid each.
Almost got that one right, what a surprise no one will mis out on the play off's.
What do you reckon they'd get if they had done that this week against Salford
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"Nice of you to ignore the most blatent profesionl foul you could ever see by pryce!!go back and watch the sky coverage again! And also listen!! even Before the saints kick off you can hear quite clear Cunningham moaning to the ref about Leeds!! '"
You lot really are hysterical about this match, aren't you? There's a 22 page thread on your board on James Graham alone, not to mention a couple of others on Saints generally. We've really got under your skin, haven't we?
Anyway, Pryce was sin binned for his professional foul, so there is no reason to mention it.
Cunningham went along with Sinfield to the ref about the chicken wing on Graham because it was not registered by the ref. Cunningham is entitled to do this as he is our captain. Some of your fans appear to be unaware of this fact. But he's actually been our captain for a few years now.
Wellens didn't scream anything. He was told off for waving his arms, as he should be since he gets a bit carried away sometimes and needs reminding that flapping your arms at the ref will get you into bother.
Clearly, nothing Saints did was illegal in that match. The RFL will have gone over it with a fine toothcomb so whether you like our hard hits or not, we were clean in that match but for an unintentional professional foul, which was punished there and then (without protest from Pryce, note) and a ticking off for Wello. You guys were the dirty players. Not us. We just played it hard and fair, like we usually do.
You won the match. Why you're all so obsessed with Saints is mystifying. Anyone would think you'd lost the match.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"You lot really are hysterical about this match, aren't you? There's a 22 page thread on your board on James Graham alone, not to mention a couple of others on Saints generally. We've really got under your skin, haven't we?
Anyway, Pryce was sin binned for his professional foul, so there is no reason to mention it.
Cunningham went along with Sinfield to the ref about the chicken wing on Graham because it was not registered by the ref. Cunningham is entitled to do this as he is our captain. Some of your fans appear to be unaware of this fact. But he's actually been our captain for a few years now.
Wellens didn't scream anything. He was told off for waving his arms, as he should be since he gets a bit carried away sometimes and needs reminding that flapping your arms at the ref will get you into bother.
Clearly, nothing Saints did was illegal in that match. The RFL will have gone over it with a fine toothcomb so whether you like our hard hits or not, we were clean in that match but for an unintentional professional foul, which was punished there and then (without protest from Pryce, note) and a ticking off for Wello. You guys were the dirty players. Not us. We just played it hard and fair, like we usually do.
You won the match. Why you're all so obsessed with Saints is mystifying. Anyone would think you'd lost the match.'" due??
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"I think you are totally deluded!! apart from the jjb tackle the rest was fair game and nothing different than what you get week in week out in sl, nl1, nrl.
Nice of you to ignore the most blatent profesionl foul you could ever see by pryce!!go back and watch the sky coverage again! And also listen!! even Before the saints kick off you can hear quite clear Cunningham moaning to the ref about Leeds!! This I repeat is before kick off, Bentham laughs and says "we haven't started yet just get on with it" saints are at the ref before the kick off which has to be some sort of record even lee briers as not achieved!! What about wellens screaming stuff at the ref and touchy, throwing his arms around after halls first try!! Also wilkin trying to smash hall In the head after he scored his second try?? what about pryce face slam on disco!! what about wilkin attacking jjb from behind when FGB had hold of him?? what about wilkin trying to ram seniors head into the floor which caused the last bit of biff?? Use your ears again and listen to long after Keith gets put in the bin saying to Bentham "you better make sure he gets two matches for that, you need to put him on report, I bet you he gets two matches"??
You need to take your blinkers off and your ear plugs out!! saints were just as bad on the night!! personally I think it's fair dink em!! but I see it from both sides not just one!! Don't pretend to be a neutral when you have just totally ignored what saints do and made out Leeds are the only team at it!!
It's so transparent that you hate Leeds !! Get over it!!'"
Don't think I'm deluded and certainly don't hate Leeds!!!.
Saints Wellans chirping at the ref was out of order, Cunningham is captain so entitled to have a word.
Sinfield Captain at Leeds so as I said entitled to have a word, as for Diskin and McGuire then i am afraid always seem to be chelping at the ref, Can only comment on the games I have seen live vs the Giants or games on Sky.
Next time ya watch Leeds keep ya eye on McGuire especially, any drop out you conceed and off the ball goes into the crowd to delay things, any scrum that doesn't go your way and again off the ball goes to delay things, he is like a big kid mate and needs to grow up just a little, admit some others do it too.
Needs to take a look at Burrow who I don't like but at least he never sinks to the level of McGuire.
Don't hate Leeds but cannot stand chelping at the ref from the non-captain which is a major problem at leeds and other teams, although not as bad (sorry but the are the worst offenders from games I have seen).
Sorry if ya don't like my views mate but thats what a forum is all about and I respect your view
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Anyway, Pryce was sin binned for his professional foul, so there is no reason to mention it.'"
Quote ="SaintsFan"but for an unintentional professional foul, which was punished there and then (without protest from Pryce, note)'"
If there's no reason to mention it, why mention it again?
Nah seriously, I don't think Saints did do a lot wrong, however I don't agree with the professional foul being "unintentional". It was perfectly intentional, and he rightly got the yellow card for that.
As far as Wellens, he never stops moaning at the referee in every game. I fully agree with posters who believe something needs doing about this constant chirping at the referees. Wellens is one who is guilty of it a lot, but certainly not the only one. Briers & Brough (among others) have been bad for it for a long time and yet seem to get away with it (with Brough's red card being the exception, although it doesn't seem to have stopped him). The simple way to deal with it is to have a chat with them the very first time they chirp, and then yellow card them the next time. The stricter you get on it, the quicker it gets stamped out.
Also, why do the referees not seem to bother with marching players back 10 that often? At one time, as soon as someone questioned the decision, they were moved back. Now it seems quite a rare thing for referees to bother with. It's a shame because it's a rule I personally think is excellent and seems very effective when it's employed.
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| i thought wellens had good reason to moan after halls try when bentman went to the screen the touchie cleary said to bentman forward pass, but he chose to ignore it, if i had been wellens i would have moaned too
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| Quote ="DILLIGAF"If there's no reason to mention it, why mention it again?
Nah seriously, I don't think Saints did do a lot wrong, however I don't agree with the professional foul being "unintentional". It was perfectly intentional, and he rightly got the yellow card for that.
As far as Wellens, he never stops moaning at the referee in every game. I fully agree with posters who believe something needs doing about this constant chirping at the referees. Wellens is one who is guilty of it a lot, but certainly not the only one. Briers & Brough (among others) have been bad for it for a long time and yet seem to get away with it (with Brough's red card being the exception, although it doesn't seem to have stopped him). The simple way to deal with it is to have a chat with them the very first time they chirp, and then yellow card them the next time. The stricter you get on it, the quicker it gets stamped out.
Also, why do the referees not seem to bother with marching players back 10 that often? At one time, as soon as someone questioned the decision, they were moved back. Now it seems quite a rare thing for referees to bother with. It's a shame because it's a rule I personally think is excellent and seems very effective when it's employed.'"
Here Here and I am sure every rugby fan agrees with you on this one apart from the Leeds ones
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| Wellens, watch him, he always complains, even in semi final for Wild's first try, it is always his first reaction.
I also think Leeds were overly aggressive, no beef with them, but they were lying on in the tackle and used a lot of elbows and flailing arms. And the disciplinary is a joke, how didnt Senior get sent off!
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| Quote ="Murphy"Wellens, watch him, he always complains, even in semi final for Wild's first try, it is always his first reaction.
I also think Leeds were overly aggressive, no beef with them, but they were lying on in the tackle and used a lot of elbows and flailing arms. And the disciplinary is a joke, how didnt Senior get sent off!'"
We have a precedent now...punch a guy in the face twice and it is a yellow and a one match ban.....ludicrous.
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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"We have a precedent now...punch a guy in the face twice and it is a yellow and a one match ban.....ludicrous.'"
As long as ya wear Blue and Yellow and ya teams name rhymes with Weeds Whino's
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| Quote ="goodie"i thought wellens had good reason to moan '"
Wello never has a good reason to moan. He didn't used to moan but over the last couple of seasons it's become a bit of a habit. At least he took his telling off to heart and stopped moaning on Friday night. I do wish he would quit moaning for good as it's embarrassing, love him though I do and I hate to criticise him because he's been a standout player for us for ten years now.
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| Quote ="FLYINGPROP"As long as ya wear Blue and Yellow and ya teams name rhymes with Weeds Whino's'"
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So ya reckon a 1 match ban for smacking someone in the face is acceptable then?
Ok lets put a different view on it, If it had been a Wigan, Bradford or Saints player that had smacked Sinfield in the face, would a 1 match ban be ok?
Enough said!!!!!!
Thanks for the shirt I done you one too and as I am feeling so generous I added a link so you can go ahead and order it
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Anyway, Pryce was sin binned for his professional foul, so there is no reason to mention it. '"
So, presumably no need to mention Keith's offence either then?
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| Quote ="A-Fire-Inside"So, presumably no need to mention Keith's offence either then?
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When did he commit a professional foul?
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| Quote ="A-Fire-Inside"So, presumably no need to mention Keith's offence either then?
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When and who did Pryce smack in the mouth cos I missed that one?
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