If a child has a ST for the home games then they get free tickets to the saway games.

Even at our place if the kids want the particular ST that includes away tickets then it costs.

Are we comparing apples and pears though? Do Warrington [ineed[/i to do something even more special than a £60 season ticket to attract kids? £60 is not that expensive in real terms. The clubs need to balance the ticket costs with breaking even as a business, after all. We know that Huddersfield are currently a club losing money and being subsidised by Ken. How much will a kids season ticket be when they are not? We don't know.

I think we have two ticket prices for under 11s free tickets and a £35 ticket which allows for the away games.

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The pertinent part there for me is:

"Following last season’s exciting one off cut price offer..."

Either way, I'm renewing.

Ah, but for which seats??!!

Lets face it Ken Davy is not stupid. Obviously ticket prices will eventually have to come back in line with all the other clubs, but by the time they do Huddersfield's crowd will have increased a great deal. Despite the nice stadium, Huddersfield always struggled to attract crowds. This offer has attracted a new load of fans, many of whom will remain season ticket holders when the prices go back up and Huddersfield will attract very competitive attendances. Warrington did it many years ago with under 16 tickets being a tenner for the season (the wolfpack). My younger brother got one and he hasn't stopped going just because he now has to pay full price.

Correct, and that was the point I was making. Wire's aren't expensive, Hudds are cheap.

As long as we are selling a decent amount at £80 per child, then why would we make them free?

The cheapest kids ticket is £60 and that can get them in to around 30 games a year if they attend every game. It is excellent value.

No, it really isn't, and it is your prices which are way below market value. Now I am not criticising that, as it is a strategy that will hopefully work for you, but that doesn't make our tickets expensive.

Your point about the kids tickets just doesn't make sense. Just because you give yours free doesn't make ours dear.

You have had to make your tickets cheap and free, whereas most clubs haven't had to do that.

We had to!



Was it a SL rule? Or an act of Parliament?

Or could it be the club chose to?....more likely.

There is no 'market rate'. Clubs experiment with different models re ST / turnstile prices etc. No one was more active re these experiments than Deakin. with the Bulls, Saracens and one other RL team...now who were they?

Can you tell me a bit more about this competitive pricing structure that Deakin introduced at Warrington, because he certainly didn't do anything when I have been watching (last 23 years).

Warrington were one of the first to allow free kids tickets, and this was actually before Super League, when we did it for two games, and attracted over 8k to each game (and incidentally lost both of them!).

We were then one of the first to go with the £10 season ticket for juniors, which was over 15 years ago, as I was eligible when it launched. I believe Sheffield Eagles were the first to launch this.

After that all SL clubs adopted a consistent offer for kids, and I think the most they were charged was around £20-30, which has increased gradually over the past 10 years, all agreed to include away matches, and now sits at £60 at Warrington.

So what pricing changes did Deakin make again, because he was responsible for none of the above.

When I talk about market rate, it is a clumsy term I am using for averages. Wire's are reasonable compared to other clubs. Hudds are way below the average. As far as I am aware they are the only SL team to give free kids tickets.

When I said 'had to', again it was probably a clumsy description, but I was pointing out that your club had to do something to increase it's ST base, and that was succesfully done through heavily discounted tickets.

I don't know what you're trying to achieve here TBH.

We are offering discounted tickets. We're trying to build our supporter base. We're fortunate in that we can do these things because we have a wealthy and generous backer. From what I gather yours is far from skint either.

We are both lucky.

As I say, I'm not sure what is going on here.

Not trying to achieve anything, and have not made any negative comments about the Giants or their pricing structure. I was one of the few neutrals who was very positive about your announcement of this offer last year.

My entry into this discussion was in response to a comment about Wire's tickets being expensive, when they are comparable with most clubs.

No agenda, no points scoring, just entering a discussion which others steered towards Warrington's pricing, and tbh something I find interesting.

I see nowt wrong with your points Dave, carry on mate

Apart from the fact he is disagreeing with me.



ban him i say



however when i have enough information to show their prices are high i will be back

To us then yes but they seem ok compared to everyone elses which is the point he's trying to make.

Weren't ours about £170 season before?

Aye, I posted that earlier in the thread!

Helps if i read all the thread then



So whats the problem with Dave's posts then, we seem about the same in prices before our cheap one this season?

This board dont half get defensive at times

I think that the discussion i was having not sure about anyone else was about prices for kids ( i do have a vested interest here and do not want Ken getting any ideas or thinking WE MIGHT BE HAPPY TO PAY MORE FOR KIDS

)But we have had cheap kids prices long before this season which is the point i was making.

Wires prices for under 11s are higher than Bradford, Saints, Wigan Huddersfield and other teams.

Saints charge £12 to stand in a dire ground.

Wigan's cheapest Junior ticket is £11

Bradford charge £10 for uncovered standing

Leeds charge £9

Wire charge £11 so are well within the pack, and charge the 'market rate' as I clumsily used before.

When it comes down to it, Warrington and Huddersfield are at different stages of their off-field development. Wire have been fortunate enough to play SL from the start, and have been involved in plenty of junior initiatives to ensure that we haven't needed to give free tickets to juniors as standard.

We have done well in this area, and the value is still excellent, especially when compared to things like Union and Soccer.

I have no interest teaching you basic economics or the recent history of your club. Ask someone who was awake during Deakin's time with the Wolves and you will discover the offers he made with ST that were certainly differnt models, as I stated.

............bottom line ----

As an astute business man Ken Davy took a "calculated" gamble against the general trend to get additional "up front" paying fans bums on Galpharm seats

It succeeded!

On Sunday he releases news on the next chapter of the book - another calculated nusiness plan to keep em there.

Will it workl ??

Definitely Yes in my opinion `cos at the moment hes going to announce it --we`re doing quite nicely

Thats the vital ingredient he needed - and he`s got it!!

In the present economic climate ( take hon mod for one - and he`s dedicated) Ken would have had a tougher decision making the next step if we had just been mid/lower table and out of the cup.( but I`ll put money on DG being on the terraces again next season whatever!!)

Fortunately for the club it appears that presently the "selling price" is the major hurdle to overcome --the product is a good one!

This is sound reasoning

My take onit for what its worth is that you cannot keep the prices so low you have good but expensive squad. This needs paying for and Davey will want to contribute as low as possible with the Giants doing well now is the time to break the news about increases but if you think/believe it will be only a low raise I think you could be in for a shock, I would expect them to be good value but a significant increase all the same.

See if it works.

I expect our ST prices to increase but with our home form being poor, trying to convince the newbies to renew next year will be a test. Our away form is superb and with us in play-off contention and along with the CC semi-final this may get them to sign up for next year.

It was a great gesture by KD and has paid off so far, and with attendances at a all time high, even when playing the likes of Quins and Celtic we passed the 6K barrier which is fantastic.

I just hope that the fans repay KD by renewing for the 2010 season and watch a ever improving Giants side. The marketing team they have are doing a great job and I have every faith in them.

We have 2 confirmed signings for next year and a very exciting one to TBA soon. So come on Giants fans get renewing for next season!

I hope he keeps the youth prices the same for season tickets holders, if there is any increase then maybe the adult prices.

But can you imagine the response if he kept the prices frozen across the board, the first time STH's would almost certainly renew and probably would in the future when prices increase, but we'll attract those dithers last time when they thought we were cr@p and now think actually we're not bad, and for c95 quid I'll finally give this a go.

I suspect a small increase in adult tickets (30 quid or so) though, which I think for most would be acceptable and would part with their hard earned, we should get 5K or so renew and the price is still a great deal for newbies, coupled with recent success we may beable to get another 1500-2000 to join in with the fun.