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| Quote ="Catnap"All boards have trolls, none of them seem to lose contributers as much as you have because of them. Trolls are temporary and as such people either ignore them or have a good argument and send them on their way. Maybe opinions from your own need to be tolerated more whether you agree with them or not rather than be ridiculed.
I wasn't talking about your post, merely quoting it because I was offering an opinion on your o/p, and suggesting that the other quote in my post might be a reason. Marsdengiant may not have meant it to come across this way but to some it might read as a holier than thou attitude.
I don't know whether there would be any correlation between crowds and numbers of forum posters, but it's strange that as you've begun to increase your attendances and interest in the club that the willingness of your fans to come on and discuss all things Hudds seems to have diminished.'"
Does it read as holier than thou to you? Your posts read as lightweight to me. Try not to confuse your banalities for insights.
If you do not know if there is a correlation then why not work one out?
Why is it strange that crowds up does not lead to people posting here? Have you checked the demographics/other sites/done any checking of facts?
I cannot speak for danril, nor would I. There are several posters - including several on the wakey board where i am banned- who dish it out but bleat when they get it back.
Because of my user name posters will suggest that i am a sheep*****er. That is fairly personal. I do not give a hoot. Yet when some poster is so incoherent with their arguments that I suggest they have the thinking capability of a primary school child people get offended. Go figure.
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| Think you've got your answer Daz!
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| unfortunately some posters on here are incapable of making a point even a reasonable one without resorting to petty point scoring,insulting or personal abuse. this is not just unique to this board but i think the difficulty is that when you have a small number of topics or contributors the negative posts etc seem to be given extra prominence.
that is not the responsibility of those who no longer post but of those that still do. They need to have a long hard look at themselves.
FWIW Catnap does not appear to be trolling other than giving his view some of which i do not agree with but i do not take it personally
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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"Does it read as holier than thou to you? Your posts read as lightweight to me. Try not to confuse your banalities for insights.
If you do not know if there is a correlation then why not work one out?
Why is it strange that crowds up does not lead to people posting here? Have you checked the demographics/other sites/done any checking of facts?
I cannot speak for danril, nor would I. There are several posters - including several on the wakey board where i am banned- who dish it out but bleat when they get it back.
Because of my user name posters will suggest that i am a sheep*****er. That is fairly personal. I do not give a hoot. [uYet when some poster is so incoherent with their arguments that I suggest they have the thinking capability of a primary school child people get offended. Go figure[/u.'"
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| Quote ="Ivor C&G Scarf"Think you've got your answer Daz!'"
think your right !!
let me put it another way - when this board was at its prime lets say, i met, at some point, the majority of posters who used this board - a lot of them have become good friends of mine who i still go to the games with. we had a laugh at the matches and came on the boards during the week to discuss the match - the social aspect - the next game etc etc.
now dont take this personally but, apart from the people i already know i have absolutely no interest in getting to know any of the newer posters on here - i'm sure your all great people - but its not like the past, someone would join the board and join in with all the banter and fun etc and would inevitabily meet the rest of the people .
people got called things etc but laughed it off and joked about it at the match.
the new posters(2006 onwards i would generalise) dont seem to be able to do that and want to analyse every post to see if they can pick a fault with someone.
oh how i wish we could get this board to the happy,fun place it used to be !
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I know mutley cat it is unbelievable! They cannot put together an argument that would impress a secondary school teacher and when you point it out they get shirty. Yet they think calling someone sheep*****er etc is comic gold. They are truly pathetic.
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| Quote ="Ivor C&G Scarf"Think you've got your answer Daz!'"
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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"If we had had the current moderation lightness of touch 12-18 months ago this would have helped.'"
If the moderation was "heavier" 12-18 months ago then it was in response to the rise of posters that were simply not palatable to the mood on this board, any heavyhandness (if any) was down to the fact that some people simply would not respond to anything less.
And in some cases, even when people were given chance, after chance, after chance they still refused to change how they conducted themselves on the forum, they are gone now and touch wood things have settled down.
Though as a moderator, there is still the occaisional flare up of trolling, flaming and outright insults, but nothing of the scale previously.
Quite simply, I think we have shed the worst offenders, and the most easily offended and what remains are for the most part, the most construcive posters, and the silent readers.
One positive is that we remain an open and fair place where there is a clear structure for any issues to be raised and dealt with, and compared with other sub forums we are by far the most lenient and always have been.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"unfortunately some posters on here are incapable of making a point even a reasonable one without resorting to petty point scoring,insulting or personal abuse. this is not just unique to this board but i think the difficulty is that when you have a small number of topics or contributors the negative posts etc seem to be given extra prominence.
that is not the responsibility of those who no longer post but of those that still do. They need to have a long hard look at themselves.
FWIW Catnap does not appear to be trolling other than giving his view some of which i do not agree with but i do not take it personally'"
Why the moralising about other posters? Some people may take your comments as insulting, point scoring or personally abusive.
In normal circumstances they can reply to comments or ignore them. To me that is fair enough. However some want to prescribe how people must post far beyond the AUP.
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| Quote ="Code13"If the moderation was "heavier" 12-18 months ago then it was in response to the rise of posters that were simply not palatable to the mood on this board, any heavyhandness (if any) was down to the fact that some people simply would not respond to anything less.
And in some cases, even when people were given chance, after chance, after chance they still refused to change how they conducted themselves on the forum, they are gone now and touch wood things have settled down.
Though as a moderator, there is still the occaisional flare up of trolling, flaming and outright insults, but nothing of the scale previously.
Quite simply, I think we have shed the worst offenders, and the most easily offended and what remains are for the most part, the most construcive posters, and the silent readers.
One positive is that we remain an open and fair place where there is a clear structure for any issues to be raised and dealt with, and compared with other sub forums we are by far the most lenient and always have been.'"
Could not agree more and mods on here do explain why they say you have overstepped the mark re the AUP.
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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"I know mutley cat it is unbelievable! They cannot put together an argument that would impress a secondary school teacher and when you point it out they get shirty. Yet they think calling someone sheep*****er etc is comic gold. They are truly pathetic.'"
you see - why would they wanna put together an argument ???
why does every topic have to be turned into an argument - he's a wakey fan,take the mick out of him,he will do thesame back and we will have a laugh about it thats how we used to do it
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"you see - why would they wanna put together an argument ???
why does every topic have to be turned into an argument -[u he's a wakey fan,take the mick out of him,he will do the same back and we will have a laugh about it that's how we used to do it [/u'"
no reason why it still can not be IMHO , the biggest shame IMHO is that this is one of the few boards with no camaraderie between opposing fans and probably the only one within the heartlands. I have said this many times to other posters but 'Mutley Cat' does not exist in real life my name is Chris so why argue with a fictional character?
I also must add that ones education as nothing to do with what kind of person they are and if some get frustrated at talking beneath there superior level then maybe they are on the wrong forum to begin with.
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| DE DE DE DERRRA DERRA DE DE DE, DERRE, DE, DERRA DEDDA DEDDA DEDADADADADA..........HERE COME THE TROLLS
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| Quote ="mutley cat"no reason why it still can not be IMHO , the biggest shame IMHO is that this is one of the few boards with no camaraderie between opposing fans and probably the only one within the heartlands.'"
Having been a poster on this site for a long time, I think a lot of that stems back to our first "go" in Super League, the merger, the relegation etc. We too a *lot* of abuse over that from other supposed fans of other clubs, for things that virtually all Huddersfield fans equally hated, then when we came back up we got labled as a "dirty" team, since that was clearly the only way we could win a game, in the end the us v them mentality developed and still shows its face now from time to time.
But then even now, some other clubs fans still think we are the same club that couldnt win a game in SL and are aghast when they lose to us.
Fortunately there are still enough of the friendly, enjoy the banter and the serious RL debate type fans that make it worth while, especially for me who isnt having to police the endless childish spats and dummy throwing sessions.
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"you see - why would they wanna put together an argument ???
why does every topic have to be turned into an argument - he's a wakey fan,take the mick out of him,he will do thesame back and we will have a laugh about it thats how we used to do it
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Here I say 'argument' meaning a coherent pov. You are correct, many people do not want to offer anything that makes sense.
feel free to do what you want to do on here I will do likewise within the AUP
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| Quote ="mutley cat"no reason why it still can not be IMHO , the biggest shame IMHO is that this is one of the few boards with no camaraderie between opposing fans and probably the only one within the heartlands. I have said this many times to other posters but 'Mutley Cat' does not exist in real life my name is Chris so why argue with a fictional character?
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I also must add that ones education as nothing to do with what kind of person they are and if some get frustrated at talking beneath there superior level then maybe they are on the wrong forum to begin with.[/
You are spot on re arguing with 'characters'. I started thread on the banality of wakey signing Winterstein and dozens of wakey posters argued. I do hope noone was banned
Must you add it? Are you compelled to do so? However, education will tend to have some influence on the kind of person you are. For example if you are the kind of person that wishes to express a pov coherently it may help.
You seem far more frustrated than me on this issue and are manifesting that inverted snobbery I refered to earlier. Fortunately we do not have to dumb things down here.
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"talk rugby league FFS'"
Start a thread on rugby league FFS
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| i did earlier
but as usual people wanted to argue and bicker instead
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| c`mon Daz --if the omnipotent one is using two posts in succession -threetimes in a row on the same topic - to ram his undisputable supremacy over lesser beings down yer throat --it hints at a teeny weeny bit of desperation dont yer think!!
but " its within the AUP" ---so nuff said!!
How can you have the blatant nerve to question him???
different name -- but same old ego alas!!
and, sadly, therein lies yer answer!!
I was told there was but one god!!
gerraway !!
at least 5 on here!!
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| I have been around and about, but unfortunatly a lot of the topics i can't really comment on because I only watch 2 or 3 games a year on TV. Im still around and about though
ps - Hoping to get over in the summer for at least one game
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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"Quote ="mutley cat"no reason why it still can not be IMHO , the biggest shame IMHO is that this is one of the few boards with no camaraderie between opposing fans and probably the only one within the heartlands. I have said this many times to other posters but 'Mutley Cat' does not exist in real life my name is Chris so why argue with a fictional character?
I also must add that ones education as nothing to do with what kind of person they are and if some get frustrated at talking beneath there superior level then maybe they are on the wrong forum to begin with.[/quote
You are spot on re arguing with 'characters'. I started thread on the banality of wakey signing Winterstein and dozens of wakey posters argued. I do hope noone was banned
Must you add it? Are you compelled to do so? However, education will tend to have some influence on the kind of person you are. For example if you are the kind of person that wishes to express a pov coherently it may help.
You seem far more frustrated than me on this issue and are manifesting that inverted snobbery I refered to earlier. Fortunately we do not have to dumb things down here.'" '"
i refer the honorable gentleman to the opening post and suggest here within lies the answer to the question.
BTW you seem more frustrated about the sheep allegations , just an observation.
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| Quote code 13 wrote
One positive is that we remain an open and fair place where there is a clear structure for any issues to be raised and dealt with, and compared with other sub forums we are by far the most lenient and always have been.'"
But is that a good thing if it allows a lot of posters to be driven away from using the board and most importantly Huddersfield Giants posters.
I know very few people who post on these boards and have no relationship with any of them. when i come on here and other Giants sites it is because i have something in common with them and that is a love of RL and Huddersfield Giants.
i use it to find out information, share it or discuss what is happening with MY club. No matter what i think of our fans or other posters i try to not let it affect how i respond. because at the end of the day for 80 minutes a week no matter what i think of some Giants fans they are ALL MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS.
i view it like that because the aim of the board quite simply is to provide a forum for people who support and want to support the Giants. Anything that is done that drives people away from that undermines this board and undermines the Giants.
when i look around the board now i wonder where the young people are, where are the female posters ( i know of one), where are the new fans. The lack of these groups should be a cause of concern for this site.
If i want an arguement or to play clever word games or show how clever i am i can do that on the sin bin. Doing that on here is not neccerssary and is counter productive. Should the mods allow a few posters to drive away many others just in the name of liberalism.
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| I think its a damn site better than "you can post on here because I dont like you" that has happend elsewhere.
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