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| And you have the cheek to slag Wakey off for signing a quality young player, who will prove to be a very good signing by Kear.
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| Quote ="adam9641"And you have the cheek to slag Wakey off for signing a quality young player, who will prove to be a very good signing by Kear.'"
Winterstein is unproven but your ability to see into the future is duly noted.
The differences between the two signings in terms of proven ability, first grade games and NRL winners rings is there for all to see.
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| Quote ="Danril"Winterstein is unproven but your ability to see into the future is duly noted.
The differences between the two signings in terms of proven ability, first grade games and NRL winners rings is there for all to see.'"
Still blocks a chance for young British player to make the step up though.
And yeah I watch many academy games and spotted a couple of player who are good and some have appeared in Wakey first team and other teams.
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| Quote ="adam9641"Still blocks a chance for young British player to make the step up though.
And yeah I watch many academy games and spotted a couple of player who are good and some have appeared in Wakey first team and other teams.'" I take it that was you on REAL RADIO just now
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| Quote ="PONNER"I take it that was you on REAL RADIO just now
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Yeah
God Howes could talk for England.
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| Quote ="adam9641"Still blocks a chance for young British player to make the step up though.
And yeah I watch many academy games and spotted a couple of player who are good and some have appeared in Wakey first team and other teams.'"
I can only assume you're either missing the point on purpose or are criminally dense.
Eitrher way this discussion is long since beaten to death.
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| Quote ="Danril"I can only assume you're either missing the point on purpose or are criminally dense.
Eitrher way this discussion is long since beaten to death.'"
They've been doing Arts & Crafts and he's been on the Pritt Stick is my guess.
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| Quote ="Wadski"They've been doing Arts & Crafts and he's been on the Pritt Stick is my guess.'" Doesn't anyone use UHU anymore?
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| Quote ="Danril"I can only assume you're either missing the point on purpose or are criminally dense.
Eitrher way this discussion is long since beaten to death.'"
No, Hudds are just as bad as Wakey if signing FW is a bad thing. But be biased all you like. That's all you can do.
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| Compare the stats of the two players and you'll clearly be able to see a very big difference.
You can't get round that so you try and ignore it. But that doesn't make it go away son because that just proves the point, which again you're either too dumb to see or are pretending to ignore. To clarify one last time so that even you might understand:
(i) Signing overseas players isn't the best thing a club can do.
(ii) If a club is going to sign an overseas player who will potentially keep a British player out of the team, better to sign one of a good age with good experience and an NRL winners medal than one who hasn't played hardly any first grade and is essentially unproven.
This is basic, simple common sense. All the preaching on bias is utter hypocrisy. Are we catching on yet? Nearly there?
Hopefully it is. And if it isn't, well, tough. Simply repeating something ad nauseum and ignoring the facts doesn't make it so, it just makes you simple!
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| Quote ="Danril"Compare the stats of the two players and you'll clearly be able to see a very big difference.
You can't get round that so you try and ignore it. But that doesn't make it go away son because that just proves the point, which again you're either too dumb to see or are pretending to ignore. To clarify one last time so that even you might understand:
(i) Signing overseas players isn't the best thing a club can do.
(ii) If a club is going to sign an overseas player who will keep a British player out of the team, better to sign one of a good age with good experience and an NRL winners medal than one who hasn't played hardly any first grade and is essentially unproven.
This is basic, simple common sense. All the preaching on bias is utter hypocrisy. Are we catching on yet? Is this making sense?
Hopefully it is. And if it isn't, well tough.'"
But very soon FW will be a quality player, so signing him now will be more of an advantage to Wakey!
And if you see a player will lot's of potential you would sign him if he was British, so why not once in a while get an overseas player? We do our part in bringing young British players who would not get a chance any where else and most of them have been a big success
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| Quote ="adam9641"But very soon FW will be a quality player, so signing him now will be more of an advantage to Wakey!
And if you see a player will lot's of potential you would sign him if he was British, so why not once in a while get an overseas player? We do our part in bringing young British players who would not get a chance any where else and most of them have been a big success'"
There you go predicting the future again! You don't know that. Conjecture. Opinion, nothing more. And the opinon of someone who has shown himself not to be really worth listening to.
Wintersteins stats are very different to Fultons, aren't they. Go on, compare those stats. Those stats aren't about what apparently WILL happen very soon. Those are dead set stats. How many times has Winterstein played in a team that has won the NRL GF? How many first grade games? Go on youtube and see some video clips of Fulton, there are some belters. Strangely enough I've struggled to find anything on Winterstein.
You just don't get it, do you...
Just admit it it. You're wrong.
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| Quote ="Danril"There you go predicting the future again! You don't know that. Conjecture. Opinion, nothing more. And the opinon of someone who has shown himself not to be really worth listening to.
Wintersteins stats are very different to Fultons, aren't they. Go on, compare those stats. Those stats aren't about what apparently WILL happen very soon. Those are dead set stats. How many times has Winterstein played in a team that has won the NRL GF? How many first grade games? Go on youtube and see some video clips of Fulton, there are some belters. Strangely enough I've struggled to find anything on Winterstein.
You just don't get it, do you...
Just admit it it. You're wrong.'"
Not wrong no, you just don't want to admit Wakey have done nothing wrong in signing FW.
He is a player with talent and lot's of it. Fulton yeah he is good player but that is not the point. The point is he is another overseas signing, why not get a British player?
Since Kear has taken over he has signed many players who most would write off, same happening here with Frank. I am sure Kear is the best judge of player then eithier of us 2
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| Jesus H Corbett. Did you not see this bit:
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(i) Signing overseas players isn't the best thing a club can do. '"
It's about 3 posts ago FFS! In other words it would be preferable if neither club had to resort to signing an overseas player.
The point is:
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(ii) If a club is going to sign an overseas player who will potentially keep a British player out of the team, better to sign one of a good age with good experience and an NRL winners medal than one who hasn't played hardly any first grade and is essentially unproven. '"
Wake up. There must something wrong with you mentally if you cannot see it is preferable to sign a young player with heaps of first grade experience and an NRL winners medal in comparison to an unproven rookie.
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| Quote ="adam9641"Not wrong no, you just don't want to admit Wakey have done nothing wrong in signing FW.
He is a player with talent and lot's of it. Fulton yeah he is good player but that is not the point. The point is he is another overseas signing, why not get a British player?
Since Kear has taken over he has signed many players who most would write off, same happening here with Frank. I am sure Kear is the best judge of player then eithier of us 2
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Having had him as a 'coach' I doubt it.
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| Quote ="Ivor C&G Scarf"Having had him as a 'coach' I doubt it.'"
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| Quote ="Danril"Jesus H Corbett. Did you not see this bit:
It's about 3 posts ago FFS! In other words it would be preferable if neither club had to resort to signing an overseas player.
The point is:
Wake up. There must something wrong with you mentally if you cannot see it is preferable to sign a young player with heaps of first grade experience and an NRL winners medal in comparison to an unproven rookie.'"
But you still say FW is a bad signing when if you wake up and smell the coffee you will realise its a very good positive signing. I would much rather the club sign a young overseas player with loads of potential than some player who will be in it for the money.
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| Quote ="Ivor C&G Scarf"Having had him as a 'coach' I doubt it.'"
Well he got us 2 wins over you and we finished above you so he is good enough for me
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| Quote ="adam9641"But you still say FW is a bad signing when if you wake up and smell the coffee you will realise its a very good positive signing. I would much rather the club sign a young overseas player with loads of potential than some player who will be in it for the money.'"
Then why not get rid of your many other overseas players who are older and ' in it for the money'.
As you have so many overseas players there is less room for british players - you can't have it all ways
If you tried to check a few facts rather than publicise your ignorance you would know that Fulton is young.
Winterstein was 21 last season and managed 5 appearances
In 2005 Fulton was 20 for the bulk of the season. he played in 28 games scored 7 tries and won a Grand Final. is that enough 'potential' for you sweetheart?
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| Quote ="adam9641"But you still say FW is a bad signing when if you wake up and smell the coffee you will realise its a very good positive signing. I would much rather the club sign a young overseas player with loads of potential than some player who will be in it for the money.'"
You're not all there. You carry on kidding yourself, simpleton but please don't put words into my mouth because your inference is not the point I'm trying to make. Which incidentally I've spelt out several times in plain English but you seem completely unable to take on board.
I'd take 18 wins from 20 than 2 from 20 every day of the week. But hey, you enjoy the two!
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| Quote ="PONNER"Doesn't anyone use UHU anymore?'"
Or Bostik? Used to go 'light-headed' using that.
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| Quote ="TBC"Or Bostik? Used to go 'light-headed' using that.'"
We had Cow Gum at our school, that really did make your head go funny.
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| Quote ="Mad_Jack_Mcmad"We had Cow Gum at our school, that really did make your head go funny.'"
We had to make do with flour and water!
Sometimes the school was so skint that we had to make do with just water. Everything would soon fall apart.....but we was happy!
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| You don't get it do you Oh dear.
I will put it nice and simple for you.
When FW becomes hot property and is helping us win even more games who will be laughing then.
Yeah Fulton is good but like I have said it's no different still a overseas player who is blocking a British player so yeah both as bad as each other if you look at it like that but FW is a player with lot's of potential and like I have stated it's a lot better than signing someone coming to the end of their career, Yeah Fulton is young and his stats are better than FW and so on but it make no difference.
If signing FW is wrong so is signing Fulton.
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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"Then why not get rid of your many other overseas players who are older and ' in it for the money'.
As you have so many overseas players there is less room for british players - you can't have it all ways
If you tried to check a few facts rather than publicise your ignorance you would know that Fulton is young.
Winterstein was 21 last season and managed 5 appearances
In 2005 Fulton was 20 for the bulk of the season. he played in 28 games scored 7 tries and won a Grand Final. is that enough 'potential' for you sweetheart?
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Quit a lot of British players there. Some who would not have had a chance if we had not signed them and now are playing very well and have potential to play international level if not already
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