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| I haven't 'settled' for 8th, i am certainly aware we can finish higher and even make the semi finals if we step up a gear BUT i'm also not gonna expect or hope we do, it's a massive task and one that will be a massive bonus if we do it, personally i don't think we can as we have too much to make up, we're expecting teams above us to go to pot while we step up another couple of levels.
The point i was making was we have survived in super league and surely after the 1st half of the season that in itself is a huge achievement already, maybe it's more a case of some people have unrealistic hopes.
Be happy for what has been achieved and hope we can build on this next year rather than putting more pressure on them already.
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| A Giants and Saints win this weekend and the 4th spot is wide open! With everyone left to play each other once, it would mean a win over a top 4 team and 1 more win in the remaining fixtures. A loss Friday and it makes it a whole lot harder.
I wouldn't be happy this year if we finished 8th, not considering expectations at the start of last season, but I'm pleased not to be in the middle 8s and if we can get top 6 it's got to be classed as a successful season.
Bodes well for the next few years, we have a good young nucleus with some decent exposure to super league. We have a proper squad now.
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| Quote ="jools"... partly because Stone as coach couldn't get the players to buy in. '"
Evidence and attributable quotes please.
Most people could see what was going on at the club and thankfully didn't listen to comments such as 'Weakman', 'Mamo won't be all that' etc...
I said at the time when we couldn't buy a win that we weren't far off and it proved to be the case when we got near enough a full strength team out.
Am I happy to settle for safety this season? Yes. Do I strive for us to be top four? Yes. Do I think we are going to win Super League every year for the next 20 years? No.
There's nothing wrong with realism. Doesn't mean that it lacks ambition.
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| 3rd and 4th both on 26 so 2 spots up for grabs, its going to be a real fight to the end.
The cup will also play a big part as usual.
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| Quote ="GiantMisterE"Evidence and attributable quotes please.
Most people could see what was going on at the club and thankfully didn't listen to comments such as 'Weakman', 'Mamo won't be all that' etc...
I said at the time when we couldn't buy a win that we weren't far off and it proved to be the case when we got near enough a full strength team out.
Am I happy to settle for safety this season? Yes. Do I strive for us to be top four? Yes. Do I think we are going to win Super League every year for the next 20 years? No.
There's nothing wrong with realism. Doesn't mean that it lacks ambition.'"
Excellent post, How ironic that some of those that had decided after half a dozen games that we weren't good enough, the players brought in weren't good enough, the coaching staff weren't good enough are now calling others 'ambitionless' for suggesting that making the top 8 is not good enough!!!
I'm happy to have avoided relegation, the middle 8's, the million pound game, we were perilously close to not doing those last year, to suggest we go from being bottom and surviving relegation by a couple of coats of paint, looking like doing the same this year, to be expecting us to be challenging for a semi-final place a matter of weeks later is a bit much, the fact we can still make the semi's at all is testament to the fine job the whole club has done in the last 3 months.
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| Quote ="Jo Jumbuck"I certainly take your point jools, I was one who said at start of season that survival was the main aim after the nightmare of last season, We have achieved that now ,but to start talking about saving ourselves and building for next season and settling for survival is exactly the reason we never win anything, If we are going to throw the towel in after 23 rounds , whats the point, we may as well just buy a ticket for 23 rounds because we look unlikely to win anything.
Personally i don't mind getting beaten if they play well and are beaten by a better side, but we can still have a say in how things end ,and to be fair we owe it to the game to try to win every match otherwise the whole thing just becomes a joke. I'm afraid there are to many Giants fans who will settle for anything, They are just so relieved at having survived they will settle for anything. Talk about knowing your place.'"
maybe some have taken a leaf out of the giants own book with ambition, wasnt long ago they turned their nose up at playing in the world club challenge....
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"Excellent post, How ironic that some of those that had decided after half a dozen games that we weren't good enough, the players brought in weren't good enough, the coaching staff weren't good enough are now calling others 'ambitionless' for suggesting that making the top 8 is not good enough!!!
I'm happy to have avoided relegation, the middle 8's, the million pound game, we were perilously close to not doing those last year, to suggest we go from being bottom and surviving relegation by a couple of coats of paint, looking like doing the same this year, to be expecting us to be challenging for a semi-final place a matter of weeks later is a bit much, the fact we can still make the semi's at all is testament to the fine job the whole club has done in the last 3 months.'"
yes does seem ironic! they will be on here in a few weeks wanting stone out for not getting in the top 4....
obviously top 4 finish is what we want but some of us are just being realistic.
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ":1wdc4bpoI haven't 'settled' for 8th, i am certainly aware we can finish higher and even make the semi finals if we step up a gear BUT i'm also not gonna expect or hope we do, it's a massive task and one that will be a massive bonus if we do it, personally i don't think we can as we have too much to make up, we're expecting teams above us to go to pot while we step up another couple of levels.
:1wdc4bpoThe point i was making was we have survived in super league and surely after the 1st half of the season that in itself is a huge achievement already, maybe it's more a case of some people have unrealistic hopes.:1wdc4bpo
:1wdc4bpoBe happy for what has been achieved and hope we can build on this next year rather than putting more pressure on them already.'" :1wdc4bpo
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This says a lot for me Daz, Be happy for what we have achieved ( survival ) not what we can still achieve ( win a game or two and influence the playoffs )
Hope we can build on this for next year,
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This year is only 2/3rds gone mate and you are already looking to hope for next year, and for heavens sake lets not put pressure on them to get any more results, It's job done.
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| But survival was the aim this year, not top 4, that's my point.
As i've already said the fact we can still make the top 4 is a huge achievement, i hope we do, BUT at the same time i won't be disappointed if we don't as that was never the aim this year.
We finished bottom last year, this year we struggled too so to expect them to now make the semis or GF is a tad unfair considering that was an unthinkable target even a month ago. Be ambitious by all means but don't expect too much too soon.
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| Quote ="brearley84"yes does seem ironic! they will be on here in a few weeks wanting stone out for not getting in the top 4....
obviously top 4 finish is what we want but some of us are just being realistic.'"
I haven't seen anyone post expectations of getting into the top four, I have seen one or two posts about it being possible, In any event we should be trying to finish as high as we can.
It wasn't realistic to think Leeds could win the Trophy from 5th, or that we could make the Eight 3 months ago.
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"But survival was the aim this year, not top 4, that's my point.
As i've already said the fact we can still make the top 4 is a huge achievement, i hope we do, BUT at the same time i won't be disappointed if we don't as that was never the aim this year.
We finished bottom last year, this year we struggled too so to expect them to now make the semis or GF is a tad unfair considering that was an unthinkable target even a month ago. Be ambitious by all means but don't expect too much too soon.'"
I don't expect them to get into the top 4 mate, I expect them to try and win every game, Am i putting unfair pressure on them by doing that, I thought that was what they were supposed to do.
We have finished phase one, Eight out of 12, We have survived, and i'm as glad as you but It's not job done. We should not be hoping about next season, we should be getting on with this one.
But fair enough mate i know how passionate you are about the club, and when you are, survival is a massive success. To me survival is just that survival, I'm looking to push on from that so we have something to build on next season.
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| Quote ="GiantJake1988"If we win next week we have a genuine chance of top 4, draw or lose and I think its just a step too far.
I honestly believe hand of heart Wakefield and Salford will crumble in the super 8s.
Other teams are starting to suffer injuries now, we've had out fair share and are now in the process of getting all our squad back (apart from Symonds & Mamo)
Eden looks like he is out for the season which is a massive blow to Cas, Anything happens to Hardaker now and Cas could start dropping points as their attack will be no where near as effective.
Galloway out for the season for Leeds.
Salford have picked up a few injuries since playing us.
Hull, Leeds, Wigan & Salford all have the extra cup game and could easily pick up some more injuries from that game.'"
Says the bloke that a few weeks ago "guaranteed" Huddersfield will finish above wakey............and we would not win another game........here we are.........two wins later.........and a 1 point defeat to the champions elect.............knows his stuff does our jakey.........
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| Quote ="Trinity_13"Says the bloke that a few weeks ago "guaranteed" Huddersfield will finish above wakey............and we would not win another game........here we are.........two wins later.........and a 1 point defeat to the champions elect.............knows his stuff does our jakey.........'"
Its very strange how you spend more time on here than your own forum isn't it?
We will still finish above you by the end of the super 8s I believe
How about we make a bet? when Giants finish above Wakey after the 7 games of the super 8s you never come on our forum again?
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| Are we being housed in chav corner this time?
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| Quote ="GiantJake1988"Its very strange how you spend more time on here than your own forum isn't it?
We will still finish above you by the end of the super 8s I believe
How about we make a bet? when Giants finish above Wakey after the 7 games of the super 8s you never come on our forum again?'"
Wakey have shown enough this year that they are a top 4 side and I personally cant see us finishing above them.
They have power, speed, grafters and experience in their team and could be dark horses for the grand final.
Our injuries have meant we've never really got any consistency together, although a full strength team next year is an exciting prospect.
Would be great if we can perform well for the rest of super 8's and have a good push for the top 4 and let all the other teams around us know that we will be back for next year.
We've hardly been on Sky and rarely get spoken about in the media which had allowed to quietly go about our business. The improvements post Swinton game are massive and we can be proud of all the players and staff for what they've achieved this year. Although as pro sports players I would be hugely disappointed if they didn't push for the top 4 in the 8's.
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| Quote ="GiantJake1988"Its very strange how you spend more time on here than your own forum isn't it?
We will still finish above you by the end of the super 8s I believe
How about we make a bet? when Giants finish above Wakey after the 7 games of the super 8s you never come on our forum again?'"
Ha ha........now its "I believe"..........where's the "guarantee" gone"??????............
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| Quote ="jools"Are we being housed in chav corner this time?'"
Why would they open a full stand for such a small number?
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| What is a small number? when does it become a big number? when you charge top money you expect a descent seat not shoved in a corner all modern stadiums have a away section.
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| Quote ="GiantJake1988"Its very strange how you spend more time on here than your own forum isn't it?
We will still finish above you by the end of the super 8s I believe
How about we make a bet? when Giants finish above Wakey after the 7 games of the super 8s you never come on our forum again?'"
What's in it for him though when you lose your bet
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| Quote ="fartownforever"What is a small number? when does it become a big number? when you charge top money you expect a descent seat not shoved in a corner all modern stadiums have a away section.'"
Here you go FartownForever, a nice map:
The KCOM is nice & modern, don't worry, and has it's own away section in E1-E3. There'll be no shoving either, the KCOM is fitted with standard turnstiles and extremely polite stewards, you can just walk in at your own pace.
Whilst the seats aren't cushioned like those in our luxurious West Stand sections, I can confirm that they are in decent working order and are consistent with the home areas of the ground (colour may differ).
If in the unlikely event you being enough fans to fill E1-E3, the North Stand will be opened.
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| So yeah it looks like the chavs have been moved out of Chav corner and we've got crap seats for £23.
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| Was the same last year, we even had a great big pillar blocking the view, but even when we had the North stand they still shoved us all in 1 block, regardless of how many came.
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| A pillar from what? There shouldn't have been anything in the way obstructing your view?
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| There was definitely something in the way if it wasn't a pillar - i think, someone help me out !
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| I do not need a map to know a crappy corner, not very welcoming it is a lot of money for poor seats
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