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| another angle is what will Ken and his family think when they see the letter from the mob?
the fact that it is making out that the giants supporters association are taking sides and supporting this lot in their campaign ......this is why its imperative that the HGSA issue a counter letter removing themselves from anything that suggests they support HTSA'a campaign of hatred against Ken/Huddersfield Giants/Giants fans so Ken can see its them twisting things. By remaining silent on this It's almost as if the HGSA are agreeing to support HTSA's case.
Come on guys .......lets get this letter done , for Giants fans and more importantly Ken's sake !!!!
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| I believe a meeting of this kind should take place but at this moment of time where the HTSA or more importantly Marcus Middleton, Stephen King and Robert Pepper are on their self centred drive to vilify Ken Davy it could've waited, as knowing them it would've been used in their own agenda mis informing what had actually been said!! I name these three even though Mr King has done a lot of good regards HTSA and Mr Pepper has stood down only to come back into the frame, as they are the public face of The HTSA. I think the main protagonist is Marcus Middleton, and it's his main ambition to bring Ken Davy down at all costs!!
I do believe a letter of opposition should be drawn up with not alienation of the HTSA but with support on the real basis of this meeting. And a note saying that the one thing they don't share opinion on is the stadium issue and the Ken Davy hate campaign!
I think Dave is doing a great job, as in Stephen King can do great stuff for the HTSA when not driven in the campaign of vilifying Ken Davy.
BTW where's the flag that was mentioned??? Anyone doing one over a certain size needs permission!
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| The HGSA is a fantastic group and are trying hard to bring something together for the good of the fans of the club and RL in general. I think it's a good idea to meet with HTSA because it shows the people of this town that giants fans are not vindictive or petty like a section of the football fans. I do believe however that HTSA have used this meeting to their advantage to infer support for their cause which is not there. I agree that a letter should be written as suggested explaining the HGSA position- but I don't believe it should come directly from HGSA. Representatives from HGSA need to contact HTSA and request that THEY clarify the matter in a further examiner piece apologising for any misrepresentation that they have caused. For me that looks better on the HGSA as if HTSA refuse to do so then HGSA can come out and say as much.
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| Why would anyone in their right mind who are fartown/giants supporters meet with the HTSA whilst the give the stadium back for £2 is on.
Dean Hoyle is allowing the HTSA to fire his bullets for him and IVOR and the HGSA have a meeting with them? Surely any organisation that purports to represent a bunch of people (Giants Supporters) whether members or not should surely be guided by member/supporter opinion which is clearly supportive of KD anti HTSA and neutral to HTAFC generally wishing HTAFC success in their footballing matters.
On principle any giants supporters should not join this organisation until it has publicly clarified its stance to the stadium issue and HTSA. In fact it should have the clubs written backing or as another poster says add the word 'indepedent' to its title.
I believe that HTAFC should get its shares back at a fair and current market value agreed by both parties and the whole matter should be put to 'bed' not dragged by HTSA across as much National media as it can as that does no one any good and it wouldn't surprise me if thats all KD wants!!
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| Whilst not denying these people from HGSA are doing a good worthwhile job for the supporters, I just can't believe they were naive enough to believe that the HTSA wouldn't use this meeting, however well meaning and use it for their own cause. What are the HGSA doing to put the record straight ???
The silence from HGSA is deafening, if you agree with the statement in the examiner let us know, if not are you going to do something to rectify the situation.
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| Without reading the intervening articles since my last post, I have sent the following e-mail to Steve King, chairman HTSA. A similar statement is being sent to the Examiner.
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I’ve just had pointed out to me your comments in ‘Down At The Mac’ where you state “the silence is not enhancing Mr Davy’s reputation and fans of both the Giants & Town & the public of Kirklees are beginning to question why there have been no replies or acknowledgements.”.
I know of no Giants fans who are questioning Ken Davy’s reputation. I have not come across the ‘public of Kirklees’ who are questioning Ken Davy’s reputation.
There is a feeling afoot that you are aligning the Giants Supporters Association with your shares protest. It has started to turn Giants fan against Giants fan, even though none of us support your campaign.
At our recent joint committee meeting I requested that, in the interest of cordiality, the share issue should not be raised. Unfortunately this did not materialise when one of your representatives brought the matter up. At no time during that meeting did our committee agree to support your campaign. We did think that Ken’s idea of a trust for the shares was good.
I feel that I must reiterate that the Huddersfield Giants Supporters Association does not support your campaign and totally disagrees with the manner which you are hounding the man who saved Huddersfield Town.
HGSA takes the view that the shares issue is a private matter between the owners of the Giants and Town and as such should be left to them and KDSL to sort out in the appropriate manner.
In conclusion, the Huddersfield Giants Supporters Association completely disassociates itself from any personal and public campaign against Mr Davy and will encourage all Giants fans to support Mr Davy and thank him for his efforts to preserve professional sport in Huddersfield and for helping make the Giants the successful club they are today.
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| Quote ="Ivor C&G Scarf"Without reading the intervening articles since my last post, I have sent the following e-mail to Steve King, chairman HTSA. A similar statement is being sent to the Examiner.
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I’ve just had pointed out to me your comments in ‘Down At The Mac’ where you state “the silence is not enhancing Mr Davy’s reputation and fans of both the Giants & Town & the public of Kirklees are beginning to question why there have been no replies or acknowledgements.”.
I know of no Giants fans who are questioning Ken Davy’s reputation. I have not come across the ‘public of Kirklees’ who are questioning Ken Davy’s reputation.
There is a feeling afoot that you are aligning the Giants Supporters Association with your shares protest. It has started to turn Giants fan against Giants fan, even though none of us support your campaign.
At our recent joint committee meeting I requested that, in the interest of cordiality, the share issue should not be raised. Unfortunately this did not materialise when one of your representatives brought the matter up. At no time during that meeting did our committee agree to support your campaign. We did think that Ken’s idea of a trust for the shares was good.
I feel that I must reiterate that the Huddersfield Giants Supporters Association does not support your campaign and totally disagrees with the manner which you are hounding the man who saved Huddersfield Town.
HGSA takes the view that the shares issue is a private matter between the owners of the Giants and Town and as such should be left to them and KDSL to sort out in the appropriate manner.
In conclusion, the Huddersfield Giants Supporters Association completely disassociates itself from any personal and public campaign against Mr Davy and will encourage all Giants fans to support Mr Davy and thank him for his efforts to preserve professional sport in Huddersfield and for helping make the Giants the successful club they are today.
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Well said that man.
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| Well done Dave and thank you !!
Up the Giants
One Ken davy !!
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"
I will speak to Dave tomorrow and give him my take on it as i think it is best dealt with in a low key way.
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| I don't think Dave or any HGSA represenative can, or should be villified for meeting with the Town lot.
If we believe that the meeting was arranged before the furore of the shares issue raised it's ugly head and subsequently was agreed that it would not be a subject up for discussion, I can see no reason for the meeting not to take place.
It would have been a no brainer to refuse to attend.
I have nothing but total respect for Dave and the other officers for forming the Supporters Association. It does what it says on the tin!
The Town lot have proved, beyond doubt, that they firmly believe they are the true owners of the 'Pharm and everything associated with it.
I don't think there is anything wrong with that, I believe that Huddersfield Giants are the best sports team in Yorkshire, but that is is only my own personal opinion, which, in the grand scheme of things is nothing more than Sparrow Fart.
What really gives me concern is that there is some shadowy figure behind all this. The Town fans have been fed some sort of crap in order to raise the Shares subject to such a high sense of importance, which to my mind is nothing more than a smokescreen to cover the more sinister attempt to malign the reputation of Sir Ken.
I don't think the blame for this whole sorry affair lies very far from the door of the mystery man responsible for the Lime Green dusters. Anybody know the name of this anonymous benefactor? His email would be handy.
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| Good lad Ivor! Well done. Spot on that statement. Now let's see what transpires.
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| Quote ="keefie"
I don't think the blame for this whole sorry affair lies very far from the door of the mystery man responsible for the Lime Green dusters. Anybody know the name of this anonymous benefactor? His email would be handy.'"
The letter from Ivor spells things out very clearly.
On the final point I have seen the DATM / HTSA / rent a mob giving Ken's business email address at simplybiz and encouraging 'fans' to 'berate' him re the stadium shares. If the vilification of ken continues in this way then maybe we should publicise the work email addresses of the Town ring leaders and we can politely see how they like receiving hundreds of emails every single day
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| Quote ="Ivor C&G Scarf"Without reading the intervening articles since my last post, I have sent the following e-mail to Steve King, chairman HTSA. A similar statement is being sent to the Examiner.
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I’ve just had pointed out to me your comments in ‘Down At The Mac’ where you state “the silence is not enhancing Mr Davy’s reputation and fans of both the Giants & Town & the public of Kirklees are beginning to question why there have been no replies or acknowledgements.”.
I know of no Giants fans who are questioning Ken Davy’s reputation. I have not come across the ‘public of Kirklees’ who are questioning Ken Davy’s reputation.
There is a feeling afoot that you are aligning the Giants Supporters Association with your shares protest. It has started to turn Giants fan against Giants fan, even though none of us support your campaign.
At our recent joint committee meeting I requested that, in the interest of cordiality, the share issue should not be raised. Unfortunately this did not materialise when one of your representatives brought the matter up. At no time during that meeting did our committee agree to support your campaign. We did think that Ken’s idea of a trust for the shares was good.
I feel that I must reiterate that the Huddersfield Giants Supporters Association does not support your campaign and totally disagrees with the manner which you are hounding the man who saved Huddersfield Town.
HGSA takes the view that the shares issue is a private matter between the owners of the Giants and Town and as such should be left to them and KDSL to sort out in the appropriate manner.
In conclusion, the Huddersfield Giants Supporters Association completely disassociates itself from any personal and public campaign against Mr Davy and will encourage all Giants fans to support Mr Davy and thank him for his efforts to preserve professional sport in Huddersfield and for helping make the Giants the successful club they are today.
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| Quote ="Cripesginger"The letter from Ivor spells things out very clearly.
On the final point I have seen the DATM / HTSA / rent a mob giving Ken's business email address at simplybiz and encouraging 'fans' to 'berate' him re the stadium shares. If the vilification of ken continues in this way then maybe we should publicise the work email addresses of the Town ring leaders and we can politely see how they like receiving hundreds of emails every single day
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It's an invitation to harass the man. Still, the IT department there can soon tweak his email address slightly to get all these emails bouncing!
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| It's like North Korea in here.
Sheep.
Baaaaa baaaaaa
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| Quote ="Smithfield Building"It's like North Korea in here.
Sheep.
Baaaaa baaaaaa'"
No thats DATM where htsa tell you what to think and say and wear.
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| Quote ="Smithfield Building"It's like North Korea in here.
Sheep.
Baaaaa baaaaaa'"
Another insightful post from Billy Bullsh*t!
If you turn around you'll find South Korea. Amazing how much room there is up your a4se; North Korea, South Korea [iand[/i your head! You must get through some toilet roll.
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| Dont forget guys, were all deluded on here according to the lime green army because we haven't listened to their propaganda and took their side and turned on Ken yet.......we should be like them and hate him and start a hate campaign against him because they say so !!!!!
even on their own site people are now starting to question what good this farce, sorry protest, is achieving and turning on the ring leaders...its quite funny cos they'll all have forgotten about it in 6 months and Ken will STILL be adored here !!!
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| These people threaten their fellow supporters in the refreshment queues. They sling abuse to those not wanting to accept the t-shirts. North Korea indeed...
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| Hey dont forget ,they give out free lime green dusters.
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| Quote ="Smithfield Building"It's like North Korea in here.
Sheep.
Baaaaa baaaaaa'"
You'd be an expert on sheep then would you?
What's up petal, panicking now the wheels are well and truly falling off your hate campaign? What are you going to do with all that pent-up impotent rage now?
Do something productive for once, buy a horse & cart & start a collection round. There's plenty of lime green rags that need picking up off the floor down at the Galpharm for a start.
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| Sheep??? Baaa??? Go back to DATM my friend then you'll find some lovely sheep and some baaaing!!! But then again that lovely so called protest where there were "thousands" clad in Lime Green where they were mainly children who can be manipulated so easily, a success?? nah you can't even sell you're lovely scarfs either!
Heard today there's a lovely person letting Datm and HTSA fall victims to this lovely campaign while leaving themselves completely clean, so before saying we're sheep maybe cast a longing look at who's giving you the wrong info so to hang DATM and HTSA!!
Anyone still insisting wearing a tshirt or scarf in those Lime green colours will be called sheep by myself till this sordid affair is resolved! Baaa!
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| i couldn't believe it when i saw a guy walkin in the BR stand with one of those Kermit coloured scarfs on today ...with 2 pints and some food to take his seat to watch the Giants.......if they knew about that on DATM they would set up a campaign to hunt this traitor down...
just thought to myself ........does he actually know what he's wearing that scarf for ?
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