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| Point taken.
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| He's going to be a cracking player.
Enjoy watching him while you can
He should be in our 17
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| Quote ="kirkamania6"He's going to be a cracking player.
Enjoy watching him while you can
He should be in our 17'"
It does seem odd that he cannot get into your team but can get into a team above you.
You guys need to stop relying on foreign talent and start trusting the lads coming through your own system. Okay, you may get a lull in performance for a season on two but you'd have a much better, home grown team which would give that sense of ownership back to the fans.
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| Quote ="Wadski"It does seem odd that he cannot get into your team but can get into a team above you.
You guys need to stop relying on foreign talent and start trusting the lads coming through your own system. Okay, you may get a lull in performance for a season on two but you'd have a much better, home grown team which would give that sense of ownership back to the fans.'"
There is a lot more wrong with our club than just not using homegrown talent really. Radlinski's book is meant to give a good insight into that (not read it yet meself) The culture within the club just isn't right at the moment.
I do agree with what you say though. Bring through the younger players (you can see yourselves with Lee they are good enough) and have a small number of top class overseas players. Amongst that we need leaders for the youngsters to look up to and who will help them develop as players., in the mould of Farrell, Radlinski and more recently Barrett and Fletcher. Lockers and Bailey are the only 2 guys who seem the type of players to do this and Bailey will move on at the end of the season to accomadate younger players like Mossop.
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| Quote ="kirkamania6"There is a lot more wrong with our club than just not using homegrown talent really. Radlinski's book is meant to give a good insight into that (not read it yet meself) The culture within the club just isn't right at the moment.
I do agree with what you say though. Bring through the younger players (you can see yourselves with Lee they are good enough) and have a small number of top class overseas players. Amongst that we need leaders for the youngsters to look up to and who will help them develop as players., in the mould of Farrell, Radlinski and more recently Barrett and Fletcher. Lockers and Bailey are the only 2 guys who seem the type of players to do this and Bailey will move on at the end of the season to accomadate younger players like Mossop.'"
fair point. Wigan could be such a different team / prospect if everything was structured very differently. I suppose they became the victim of the salary cap - unable to keep youth as the demand for trophies was too high now suffering from a lack of homegrown leaders and rolemodels for the current youth to aspire to.
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| Quote ="Wadski"fair point. Wigan could be such a different team / prospect if everything was structured very differently. I suppose they became the victim of the salary cap - unable to keep youth as the demand for trophies was too high now suffering from a lack of homegrown leaders and rolemodels for the current youth to aspire to.'"
I'm not one to moan about the salary cap because I think it is a good idea and we could have used it to our advantage but didn't
I agree that we could be a different team if we had a better structure and that's why a lot of Wigan fans want to see the back of Noble (including me) I appreciate all Brian has done for Wigan but IMO he has taken us as far as he can and its time for change, they just need to find the right guys to bring in which is easier said than done
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| Quote ="kirkamania6"I'm not one to moan about the salary cap because I think it is a good idea and we could have used it to our advantage but didn't
I agree that we could be a different team if we had a better structure and that's why a lot of Wigan fans want to see the back of Noble (including me) I appreciate all Brian has done for Wigan but IMO he has taken us as far as he can and its time for change, they just need to find the right guys to bring in which is easier said than done'"
Noble's problem is himself. He was everything about Bradford for so long that he is just not suitable for Wigan. Don't get me wrong, he was the right choice at the time but his is synonymous with the peak of Bradfords dominance therefore he will never be truly accepted as a Wigan Great.
Bradford should consider recruiting Noble back to help McNamara as it would generate the interest and rekindle some passion from those current doubters at Bradford.
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| Quote ="Wadski"Noble's problem is himself. He was everything about Bradford for so long that he is just not suitable for Wigan. Don't get me wrong, he was the right choice at the time but his is synonymous with the peak of Bradfords dominance therefore he will never be truly accepted as a Wigan Great.
Bradford should consider recruiting Noble back to help McNamara as it would generate the interest and rekindle some passion from those current doubters at Bradford.'"
Noble back to Bradford would be great for Bradford, Noble and Wigan IMO
Noble has had enough time to put a team together (ie a huge pack) to suit his tactics. Has he done it? No. Have we improved each year as a team? No.
Bye Brian
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| Quote ="kirkamania6"Noble back to Bradford would be great for Bradford, Noble and Wigan IMO
Noble has had enough time to put a team together (ie a huge pack) to suit his tactics. Has he done it? No. Have we improved each year as a team? No.
Bye Brian
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The only huge pack he has at Wigan is a large novelty box of playing cards.
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| Quote ="post"The only huge pack he has at Wigan is a large novelty box of playing cards.
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Or Hubba Bubba Bubble Gum!!
Try saying that after a few beers!
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| lf l were Ken Davy, my first question would be to nathan
Do you want this player
Yes , ok lets deal
next question to Mossop
Do you want to stay at Giants
Yes, ok contracts with previous club not worth a jot sign here
lf the answer to either question is NO
Taxi for Mossop,
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| Quote ="boomer"lf l were Ken Davy, my first question would be to nathan
Do you want this player
Yes , ok lets deal
next question to Mossop
Do you want to stay at Giants
Yes, ok contracts with previous club not worth a jot sign here
lf the answer to either question is NO
Taxi for Mossop,
Let Wigan pay, and train their own players'"
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| [url=http://www.wiganwarriors.com/news_full.asp?newsid=4880May be coming back to Wigan very soon - hence only the week to week extension[/url
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"[url=http://www.wiganwarriors.com/news_full.asp?newsid=4880May be coming back to Wigan very soon - hence only the week to week extension[/url'"
Thought id read it was till end of season now?
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| It is, but they can recall him whenever they like.
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| No they carnt.
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| Quote ="BOYD2"No they carnt.'"
Can you explain why Wigan cannot recall him?
Quote MOSSOP EXTENDS LOAN DEAL
Huddersfield Giants and Wigan Warriors have agreed to extend the loan deal of Lee Mossop on a week-to-week basis.
Giants Head Coach Nathan Brown was pleased to extend the deal:
“It’s great news for the club, as he’s a young player that can certainly help us, and it’s a win win situation for both the Giants and Wigan. I’m grateful to Wigan Chairman Ian Lenagan, who has allowed us to keep a player of Lee’s talent, and they know that when he returns he will be a more rounded player through playing Super League games.”
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[url=http://www.wiganwarriors.com/news_full.asp?newsid=4870Week to week[/url
Quote The Wigan Club have agreed to extend the loan spell of back row forward Lee Mossop at Huddersfield.
The 20-year-old Cumbrian has made three appearances for the Giants in his initial month-long spell, which ended today but is now extended on a week-to-week basis.'"
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| I'm guessing that Gareth Hock may have just cost you the services of Lee Mossop.
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| Quote ="The Clan"I'm guessing that Gareth Hock may have just cost you the services of Lee Mossop.'"
Possible.
They may just go with Hansen / O'Loughlin / Bailey / J. Tomkins and choose to give Farrell or Flanagan a go.
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| Sad to think that young Mossop will now not be able to collect a CC winners medal with his Huddersfield colleagues this season.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"Sad to think that young Mossop will now not be able to collect a CC winners medal with his Huddersfield colleagues this season.'" Was cup tied anyway wasnt he?
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| I hope we don't recall him tbh. He's getting regular games in a better side then he'd be coming back into without the pressures of replacing a fantastic player in Hock.
If he came back to us this year alot of fans would just expect him to step in Hocks boots and that would do him more harm then good.
Hopefully we'll let him learn his trade at Huddersfield for the rest of 09 and then bring him back in for 2010 when all this stuff at Wigan has died down abit(and hopefully we have a coach that will actually play him).
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| Quote ="Richards is superman!"Was cup tied anyway wasnt he?'"
Please don't let such trivial things as the facts get in the way of a good trolling.
He played for you against Barrow.
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