The loss of Brough is a blow but not a huge one
Ellis and Connor were doing well as our pivots I think

It's losing Ellis mid game so Cudjoe had to go to pivot was an issue
Being down two international props is an issue
Losing an international centre and fullback

Not to mention unplanned losses of Robbo and Ferres


Once we get bodies back then we'll see but three games in is a little early to speculate
And we're not bottom of the league just yet...

pick a squad number out of a hat !!

Cudjoe has played Half back in his early days ..apart from that there is no one else, Leeming or Hinchliffe maybe but as far as i know neither have any experience at half back.

i was hinting at the injuries to the other players we have

as i said previously, the biggest problem we had was moving Bruno to centre,not because he is a poor centre ( he was our best player by a mile yesterday!) but because their is no one else making the tackles and putting in the hard work he does in the middle, Widnes knew that and targeted our middle before getting quick and fast balls to the backs. we had no answer to it, so even if we had Brough and Ellis in there, the result, i fear would have been the same without Lawrence in the middle.

could be a (slight) possibility that either, Brough or Kyle Wood could be back,or both of them, but that is a long shot and i wouldn't want to risk either of them if they aren't anywhere near fit.

i would be tempted to play connor and Hinchy, i don't think Kruise is mobile enough to play in the halves, although if he did i'm sure he wouldn't let us down!
i would leave Leroy in the centres as apart from Bruno and Macintosh we don't have much cover there, and we need some experience in the backs.

Our fans sem deluded.

We are a one man team and without Brough we lack any creativity in the half backs.

We might win against poor teams but without Brough we will never beat a good team in a big game. Even if we got all the missing players back we would be competitive but would not beat the top teams

Ellis is no Brough and i have yet to see anything from Connor that suggests he will be anything but a bit part player. He is young and has less pace than Briers did in the season he retired. He also has more niggle than Ben westwood but without the tackling. He needs to adapt his game completely that will take a long time to do.

WE have needed a good half who can run to play off Brough for the last two years but have not had one.

As for people saying we have lost an international full back they are the same people who were saying drop him last season.
We need to avoid the drop this season and have proper rebuilding next season with a new half back, full back, LF and centre second row as priority.

dont think will go down but we might get massive wake up call , The recruitment and retention has been poor for years since we let Brett go to Warrington. hull ,cas salford have recruited very well , We look short of pace in the backs and no strike in the back row

Its becoming less the case but you have clearly been a one man team for the past few years, especially in 2013
Just have a look at the rest of your spine, its pretty dire if your aims are to win a GF
Grix is nowhere near good enough
Ellis wasnt getting a game over Liam Finn at Cas
Hinchcliffe is alright, but hasnt played hooker in years and whilst solid isnt very creative

Brough absolutley carries the playmakers in your team and has done for years

I can see Hinchcliffe ging to scrum half, I think he may have played the odd game at Melbourne there. If you ain't got the ability to go there, you need the experience IMHO. Could switch (with gods know who) when Leeming is spelled.



Has Huby ever had a cap? Don't think he has.


l think we've been fairly lucky compared to a lot of teams in the last few years, with 'number of' injuries, we've always had a smallish squad but managed to cope. Think we are getting our last 3-4 seasons share this season though.

It seems we are a one man team, but that man is Lawrence, even with Brough back and the rest of our quality halves as well we have no chance without Lawrence , What does that say about Mr Andersons coaching then, we apparently have only one forward who can tackle.

Todays offering in the Examiner is, Mr A is ready to sign someone as cover for our injured halves. It doesn't seem too occur to him that we need a first class half, what we have now are good enough to be cover at a pinch. Mind you last weeks offering was how we were expecting to beat Widnes.

Brough is still the only man we have that can create anything, If we want to realistically compete and take place in Finals we need some better players in key positions, not players who couldn't get in other teams but are somehow now quality, now they play for the Giants. And we could start by getting a coach who knows how league is supposed to be played. Mr Davy's money is being squandered . I don't know if that's his fault or someone else's.

All the talk in the last few years has been about how well we have done, how we have punched above our weight, Now the talk is about whether we will manage to stay in the Eight.

"And we could start by getting a coach who knows how league is supposed to be played."

Seriously ? Paul Anderson doesn't know how league is played ??? think his playing record and coaching record upto now proves he knows a fair bit about it !! what a daft comment !

Paul Anderson as a player was the ultimate one trick pony, both at Bradford and at Saints, he was very good at that one trick I grant you but that doesn't mean he can coach.
Ask your self why Huddersfield can't get people to go and support them, When you have worked your way through the endless excuses and dross, you will eventually come to the real reason. It's because most of the season they are bloody awful to watch, with a good performance thrown in here and there, and when it comes to a game that really matters, well we all know what happens then

Last season you could count the good performances on one hand and they weren't riddled with injuries then. Fact is mate he can't motivate them, I remember J sharp , the most qualified coach in the game ( or that's what he used to say ) look what happened to him.

We need class players where it matters mate, not Fullbacks who bottle out of tackles and halves who have been let go from other clubs cause they couldn't make the team.

The missing thousand in Huddersfield know that mate, It's just the handful of posters on here who think we have this wonderful team of Legends that will win us the GF, if we can just wait till it's our turn. Unless you were around in the Fifties you haven't seen a good Huddersfield side because that's the last time they had one, and you are not going to get the fans to come by spouting Dross in the Examiner.

Some people need to put the dummy back in.

And be realistic- where are these top class halves you want us to buy? And would they sit as back up and be happy to sit in the stands waiting for injuries.

And if we did live in the fantasy land of some fans- Would cherry-Evans sit on the sidelines behind cronk and thurston?

You think of the players we've had and where we've finished the last 5 seasons, I'd say hes getting a lot out of them if so. I hope you match up to your own very high standards in what you do.

Ask your self why Huddersfield can't get people to go and support them, When you have worked your way through the endless excuses and dross, you will eventually come to the real reason. It's because most of the season they are bloody awful to watch, with a good performance thrown in here and there, and when it comes to a game that really matters, well we all know what happens then'"

Is that the same Fantasy land where we keep buying endless forwards from, There are Halves to be had, there are better than we have playing in their feeder leagues, It takes someone who can be bothered to find one.
We have signed good backs before, remember Devere and Hogson Oh I forgot weren't good enough were they. Look at us now

What it means is, Very few HAVE been going to watch them since, which is Mr Davy's main problem I would think.
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You can call the missing fans Fair weather fans or anything else you care to call them, but if they don't like what they see, they will just say ,You go ! I'm off playing golf or whatever.

"You hope they win things and get your enjoyment from that" A while since you had any enjoyment then. They are very well paid Pro's mate you should be able to expect a bit more than that. I will never understand this attitude of the poorer they are they more we need to get behind them. The better they are the more will turn up.

The one light at the end of the tunnel is, Mr Davy has shown in the past he has his limits.

Who- name them?
Re Hodgson and de vere- The salary cap gap is much bigger now- and both those players were at the ends of their careers not at their best. We wouldn't be able to afford a devere or Hodgson now - unless they've been kicked out like Mason /Sandow/carney

What about those two halfbacks you got from Wakey, Brough and Drew.

i personally think the problem is your every now and again fan always gets let down when it matters it takes a long time to build up a fan base and 2 mins for it to disappear i still believe had we won warrington in the 2009 final we would have gained more supporters since then other than winning the league shield we have bottled it in all big games heard today broughs unsettled and on sundays showing no harmony in the camp 1st big test now for mr anderson early days i know but things not looking good in camp

Half backs available in the last couple of seasons whether they were worth it is hard to say
Gaskell, Gale, Roberts, Kelly, Brierley, Sneyd, Hampshire, Campese

( Of these i would have been happy getting Gale Brierley, Roberts and Hampshire. The Jury is out on the others.

Plus there are the others you have suggested.

There will be others in the second league In Australia.

We started this season with Robbo who had already discussed retirement with Anderson LAST SEASON.

Brough who has been carrying an injury all LAST SEASON.


I would compare us and Cas in terms of fans, money etc.

Whatever the relative merits of the success Cas are better than us to watch and have players with Pace. We have lots of forwards ( or did).

Whether that is down to Anderson, Thewlis or lack of money i do not know but Jumbucks point about our style of play has some merit.

Our retention and recruitment IMHO has not been good enough for a while.

I thought you were talking about top class halves ......

They were indeed past their best ,and yet were still so much better than anything we have had since.
Same old, same old. There aren't any, we can't afford one, we have to be realistic.

I detect sarcasm in that last bit but even so it is spot on...and as a supporter of this club we have 2 choices ..

1) accept that and carry on supporting as supporters do
2) throw a paddy and moan, whine, whinge, criticise, berate and have a general negative attitude towards everything to do with the club.

Some of those on here that do all the above have even admitted they don't / don't want to attend and put money in the clubs coffers even though the main issue of us not doing what we want them to do is we don't have enough people coming to games to help the club take the next step !!
Till we do we have to accept this is where we are with the quality of players we have and if it's not acceptable then maybe this isn't the club for those people ...I've probably written the some post for 3/4 years running now !!

Bang on, nothing more to say!

I think the nature of any clubs' fanbase means there are going to be differing viewpoints on the club's fortunes.
we seem have to a lot more negative fans than most,
we get called "apologists" etc if we choose to accept that we don't have money to throw around and don't sign top class international players.
some might call that lack of ambition, others, would call it realistic. yes the club and the people working for the club have made mistakes in the past and will do in the future, but as countless people have said, the club can't do much without money, we haven't got the money available, nor can we hope to have the riches that Leeds,Wigan,Saints,Wire,Hull,Catalans have got, we must be doing something right because we have more than held our own and more with all those.
but until we get higher revenue streams to be able to go that next level up then we are where we are.