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| Quote ="FLYINGPROP"The league leaders shield means eff all.
Only to the teams that haven't won it that season or to arrogant fools, to me it means your the best team of the season cos its given to the team with most points in the league and who have been consistent week by week
Hope we go onto win the GF cos if we do the LLS still means means a hell of a lot more to me than a money making 4 game play off (the Challenge Cup is the knock out comp)
I have stated this numerous times that I would rather win the LLS than GF but unless we do no one would believe me but IMO the Champions are the ones who win the league as in most sporting competitions I know of!!'"
Absolutely agree with this
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| Quote ="MattyLeeds"Please be Leeds
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You do realise that for that to happen you will have had to lose to Warrington then beaten Saints? (assuming Saints are 5th).
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| Firstly the achievement for Huddersfield of getting into the top 4 is the key one, and congratulations to them for doing this. This is the real achievement.
"Winning" the LLS means zip.
The rules of the competition ensure this. For this reason you cannot say "it's the reward for being the most consistent team/best team over the season" etc etc
The reality is that teams do not go all out to win the LLS because the structure of the competition means that it's not necessary to do so.
SL is all about a knockout competition at the end of the regular rounds.
If Huddersfield can make it to the GF or even win it, then this will be despite finishing 1st after the regular season, not on account of it.
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| Quote ="Wadski"You do realise that for that to happen you will have had to lose to Warrington then beaten Saints? (assuming Saints are 5th).'"
If we had Club call with Leeds finishing 3rd it wouldn't work as we would've beaten Wigan and they'd be the lowest top 4 loser and play the higher placed 5-8 winner assuming it's Saints.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"Firstly the achievement for Huddersfield of getting into the top 4 is the key one, and congratulations to them for doing this. This is the real achievement.
"Winning" the LLS means zip.
The rules of the competition ensure this. For this reason you cannot say "it's the reward for being the most consistent team/best team over the season" etc etc
The reality is that teams do not go all out to win the LLS because the structure of the competition means that it's not necessary to do so.
SL is all about a knockout competition at the end of the regular rounds.
If Huddersfield can make it to the GF or even win it, then this will be despite finishing 1st after the regular season, not on account of it.'"
Are we in a timewarp?
Huddersfield winning the LLS means ZIP to you. It means much more to us. 81 years since we've finished top.
Your bonfire pi$$ing is futile.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"Firstly the achievement for Huddersfield of getting into the top 4 is the key one, and congratulations to them for doing this. This is the real achievement.
"Winning" the LLS means zip.
The rules of the competition ensure this. For this reason you cannot say "it's the reward for being the most consistent team/best team over the season" etc etc
The reality is that teams do not go all out to win the LLS because the structure of the competition means that it's not necessary to do so.
SL is all about a knockout competition at the end of the regular rounds.
If Huddersfield can make it to the GF or even win it, then this will be despite finishing 1st after the regular season, not on account of it.'"
we have finished in the top 4 before you know..
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| Quote ="CHRISS"Is there any dosh involved or is the LLS deemed sufficient reward?'"
you get more cash the higher up the table you are, think its 50k for topping the league
then more cash from whatever money is generated from the play offs
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| Quote ="Wadski"Are we in a timewarp?
Huddersfield winning the LLS means ZIP to you. It means much more to us. 81 years since we've finished top.
Your bonfire pi$$ing is futile.'"
Spot on - to fans whose club have won things regularly it mean nothing, to us it means everything, the world to our club - it may be a stepping stone to further trophies in years to come but for now it is the 1st bit of Silverware for the club to build on. You can bang on all you like, all of you, about it meaning nothing but it will fall on deaf ears, we aren't interested - ITS AN AWARD FOR DOING THE BEST !.
For years we had the you've never won anything crap thrown at us, well now we are on the brink of winning something we get ...ah but that doesn't mean anything......NO ONE AT THIS CLUB GIVES 2 HOOTS WHAT ANYONE ELSE THINKS IT MEANS.
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| Main point is people will always say something means nothing if they don't have a chance of winning it themselves!!
For me topping the league is really what being champions is all about - Not a knock out competition amongst a much reduced competitive pool of 'talent'!
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| I'm really happy for Hudds, i don't understand the reason people are giving you such a hard time, it's more a pyschological achievement than the winning of a shield.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"I'm really happy for Hudds, i don't understand the reason people are giving you such a hard time, it's more a pyschological achievement than the winning of a shield.'"
Cos we used to be the whipping boys, now we're not and some people can't accept that and throw a paddy !
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"Cos we used to be the whipping boys, now we're not and some people can't accept that and throw a paddy !'"
I don't think they do in the least (at least in the real world forums like these are a law to themselves and hardly represent fans of any club in a good light).
I think most people are happy to see a new team fighting it out with the usual suspects.
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| Congratulations you are the most consistent side in the league , now all you have to do is to prove you are a champion side by fighting your way through the play offs when all the big boys have no excuses left and win the grand final . In my opinion you can do it but probably only if some one else removes Warrington for you
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| Just for the record I am not "knocking" Huddersfield or trying to urinate on anyones bonfire.
If you are happy with finishing 1st then good luck to you.
What some of you don't seem to realise though is that the table would undoubtably looked different if finishing top was the aim of the season.
It's perfectly possible that you would still have come top. Unlikely imo, but possible.
Impossible ultimately to say either way.
What is absolutely true (as Wigan know from bitter experience last year) is that it is way more important to hit the playoffs with a healthy, confident squad than it is to finish top after the regular rounds.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"Just for the record I am not "knocking" Huddersfield or trying to urinate on anyones bonfire.
If you are happy with finishing 1st then good luck to you.
What some of you don't seem to realise though is that the table would undoubtably looked different if finishing top was the aim of the season.
It's perfectly possible that you would still have come top. Unlikely imo, but possible.
Impossible ultimately to say either way.
What is absolutely true (as Wigan know from bitter experience last year) is that it is way more important to hit the playoffs with a healthy, confident squad than it is to finish top after the regular rounds.'"
Prove it !!
if that's not a statement of bitterness etc then i really dont know what else is ?
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"Congratulations you are the most consistent side in the league , now all you have to do is to prove you are a champion side by fighting your way through the play offs when all the big boys have no excuses left and win the grand final . In my opinion you can do it but probably only if some one else removes Warrington for you'"
To be honest if we don't we don't. The real important thing is we keep improving year on year and if we do we can have no complaints.
We have alot to prove but that goes for anyone in any sport and until you win every game, league, cup etc you enter that is true be you Leeds Rhinos, Tiger Woods, Andy Murray or Phil Taylor.
Too many people are too bothered with what others think and go either full out attack or get defensive (verbally) and do not seem to enjoy what is going on infront of their eyes but get bogged down in things that at the end of the day could get argued about for days and still both sides could pick holes in each others arguments.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"I'm really happy for Hudds, i don't understand the reason people are giving you such a hard time, it's more a pyschological achievement than the winning of a shield.'"
could prove massive for the current set of players and the club as a whole...
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"
If you are happy with finishing 1st then good luck to you.'"
This has to be the funniest thing that I have ever read!!
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| Quote ="GiantMisterE"This has to be the funniest thing that I have ever read!!'"
Exactly
I'm sure those who finish 12th, for example, wouldn't wanna swap with us !
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"Just for the record I am not "knocking" Huddersfield or trying to urinate on anyones bonfire.
If you are happy with finishing 1st then good luck to you.
What some of you don't seem to realise though is that the table would undoubtably looked different if finishing top was the aim of the season.
It's perfectly possible that you would still have come top. Unlikely imo, but possible.
Impossible ultimately to say either way.
What is absolutely true (as Wigan know from bitter experience last year) is that it is way more important to hit the playoffs with a healthy, confident squad than it is to finish top after the regular rounds.'"
So, teams purposely go out and lose matches just so they don't finish top?
Garbage!
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"
What some of you don't seem to realise though is that the table would undoubtably looked different if finishing top was the aim of the season.
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This guy is deluded.
No proof whatsoever for his ridiculous theory.
Tony Smith's team for tonight doesn't suggest he is not trying
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| No one goes out to not win as it's not in their best interests to do so it's just a sad and deluded Wigan fan upset their club isn't getting this shield trying to get a bite as their own club goes through the fabled Giants slump! They even say so in their own summary that you need to go into the play offs with momentum which sadly Wigan aint atm! Trying to take the gloss of our amazing success! They are just pathetic!
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| Why are people even entertaining these idiots! who cares what they think, If we do win the LLS then i for 1 will be celebrating from the roof tops! They playoffs dont mean a thing to me. Heres a scenario....hudds win LLS then get 8 players injured and fail miserably in the playoffs due to this and say warrington win the final, what does this prove? absolutly nothing! The whole meaning of superleague champions is the wrong way round, the playoff winners should be the minor champions and top of the table should be the super league champions. And before everyone shouts at me i have said this since the whole silly concept was invented!!!
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| I agree !
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| Quote ="brearley84"you get more cash the higher up the table you are, think its 50k for topping the league
then more cash from whatever money is generated from the play offs'"
There aren't any financial rewards for where you finish after the regular rounds - final competition places and prize money (in reality the cut from the play-off money) are determined by the play-offs/Grand Final.
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