seb was ok in 2018...no worse than the rest, he had a few injury problems

for me we should have tried to get him back to the 2017 form, we know what he can do, but woolford went the wrong way about it and i thought it might end up how it had, what a waste

Woolford wanted to see him step up- he’s failed to do that- disappointing.
One thing woolford has banged on about since he arrived is resilience- has seb shown any resilience?

6-0 up we are in possession and instead of driving the ball upfield we go sideways force a pass and bingo 6-6

Murphy Stops the play the ball why?... bingo 10 minutes in the bin but on the one occasion we tried to take a quick one play is stopped ref out of position. Wakey do the same ref out of position play on ... consistency NO !!

Almost half time we give it to Mellor !!!! to kick bingo straight out ball back and right on half time try 16-10 ‘farcical’ We had chance to get the fullback before the pass but no..... we just look at him watch him run across the line and pass and try...

Then the Woolford team talk and we turn up after half time and get dominated and bullied... Give away another stupid try (Leroy) and again look as if we don't know each other.

If we can’t motivate with jobs on the line then we deserve everything we get !!!

Our line speed and drive 2nd half was so slow hadwe been the Titanic we would have missed the iceberg..

Where does it go from here ??

Having watched the highlights it looks even worse

Agree with everything apart from Murphy got done for stopping them taking a quick tap yet their guy kicks the ball away near the end after he penalises them yet no son binning, no consistency from the ref apart from being one-eyed, not blaming him for one minute, but I'm sick of watching poor officials. They were there for the taking and as you muted the score after our first try and the one before half time were the game changes. Onwards and upwards to Salford

Preventing a quick tap is a sin binning. Kicking the ball away after being pulled for offside(which he wasn't) isn't. Maybe you need to brush up on the rules.

The rule is different the ball is dead and Murphy prevented time for a quick tap. Oh you didn't mention the Huddersfield player who had a paddy and threw the ball away after knocking on. We have had players binned for that not seen any other team suffer a binning as yet!

Since when is dropping on a loose ball a penalty? We knock on, another man in front of him drops on the loose ball - see that all the time but no this ref gives a penalty for the man dropping on the ball being offside- First offences is the knock on so scrum down!

wow you really don't know the rules of the game at all do you, I'll try explain this simply.
firstly it doesn't happen all the time, if you seen it done then the ref is at fault

your player has knocked which would lead to a scrum if he'd picked it up but it wasn't, it was then shudds player stood in front of him in an offside position which you admit to this, this then stops the play, had it been a Wakey player picking the ball up and not made any yardage a scrum would of been given, had the said player gained yardage play would of continued and advantage given. first offence is when both team players knock on on the same play

by the way thanks for the points this season

must have been about 9-2 pen counts in wildcats favour at one point...

wont want to see that ref again anytime soon

we are the most penalised team in the league though

but that has been going on for years and years

Yeah those points we’ve given You have kept you from relegation. You should be grateful.

The first offence is the knock on, seen plenty of offside players prevent the opposition picking up the ball, and it’s never been given as a penalty. Ever.

Really? You've never seen that ever? Happens on an almost weekly basis. You're making a bit of a fool of yourself

They’re correct don’t know why you’re arguing jools , I get it blaming the ref is an easy option but you have to realise we played awful and have been playing awful all season

I’m not saying that isn’t the rule- I’m saying it’s not usually penalised- happens regularly.

He chooses to penalise for that- but not a yellow card for a swinging arm with direct contact to the head.

So it's not usually now? You said you'd never seen it... Ever. You need to stop digging.... You are wrong

No I’ve not seen it-
Therefore Ive determined it’s not usual.
I haven’t said it has never happened. Subtleties. Clearly Beyond you.

Read your last sentence again. I'll leave it now because it's like trying to have a logical discussion with the wife... Pointless

She’s probably as frustrated as I am by your lack of understanding-
I’ve seen it happen I’ve never seen it given as a penalty. What’s so difficult to comprehend.

I simply don't belive you've never seen it.... It happens regularly. I'm calling you out as a liar if you are saying youve never seen it.....

Ok




Call all you want. I’m saying I’ve never seen it. Your prerogative to not believe me- but why would I mention it otherwise. I will look out for it specially in future.

You mention it because it gives you a chance to blame the ref for losing. You must have seen it before if you've watched more than half a dozen games of RL. You need to own the fact you're lying . BTW putting laughing emojis doesn't win the debate.

You really need to stop putting your own twist on what you think I’ve said. And actually read the words I have used. I have nowhere at all blamed the referee for losing. I talked about 2 decisions he made- but not in the context of the outcome of the game. If you read any of my other posts about the game I have not blamed the referee for losing.
You’ve called me out and accused me of being a liar- but you're the one making things up.

Tell you what jools youre right and I'm wrong and I REALLY will leave it this time. Good luck for the rest of the season

been in that position before where your teams indiscipline has cost you the game and its not a nice feeling to see the penalty count so high against the opposition, rather than whinge about the penalty count being high why not look at your own clubs indiscretions as to the reason why it was too high.

one thing I hate is having to equal out the penalties to pacify supporters that are clueless to the rules

luckily I don't have that problem she's very knowledgeable and willing to see the other side of an argument, must be awful having t live life to the pinny

Not much dumb about the win at Salford ... good luck the Giants, hope you stay up.