If you care to check Giants nobody owns the stadium it is a separate company that Giants have a 20% share in.all Wakay have is dump nobody wants best of luck with your negotiations with Dewsbury OR Barnsley at least away fans will actually be able to view the game

shakefield, leeds and cas at home then, nice local derbies... good away followings too apart from shakefield.

the games away are all tough.. and long trips on the m62!

You don't own your ground so I am not wrong.

We are well run under carter hence why we finished 5th with lowest cap spend in SL so again you are wrong

You need to tell code 13 I already know you don't own your ground and with town in the premier league you will be very much the minority tenant given they own 40%

I wouldn't worry where we are going to play next season but it won't be a 25,000 seater stadium with no atmosphere because it is only a quarter full

I think you will find if you care to look Giants and Town pay a fee to play there based on attendance so Giants pay less .I am quite impressed with atmosphere the Giants fans create so your sarcastic remarks are irrelevant .

So further evidence you don't own the ground as you have to pay to play there. You better tell Code 13

We have a 20% share in the ownership, we don't own the ground but have a part stake in it, meaning we don't have a problem of being homeless if the 'owner' decided to sell!!!

And as with HTFC we pay rent to the stadium company based on attendances.

I will have 1 more go too now pay attention Giants form part of the company that owns the ground any body that plays on that ground pays.I will try now to explain your position next year you will be paying either BARNSLEY FC FEATHERSTONE ROVERS ,or DEWSBURY unfortunately for Wakey you have no shares in any of those grounds Wakey make nothing wake up and smell the coffee.

Sorry all it would mean is you were entitled to 20% of the sale proceeds as you have no controlling interest with only 20%. If town increased their ownership to 80% then they could certainly change the terms of the arrangements.

You will be playing second fiddle now town are premier league you even had to cancel a game when town weren't playing there!

Sorry I can not go on if you cannot grasp it then I feel very sorry, the idea is that nobody has a controlling share so we ALL OWN IT NOBODY CONTROLS IT NOBODY CAN SELL IT please explain the bit you do not understand we all pay to play there everybody is very happy.Wakey own nothing have got a chairman who has nothing and are going to play in a ground where they just pay and play.I have a lot of sympathy for Wakeys plight but I do not see where this is going. Where as this selling John Smith stadium come from have I missed some thing please explain I am at a loss.Giants did play a game for Town convenience it was against Catalan so it only effected Giants fans.

Game you cancelled was against saints..........and whoever told you our chairman had nothing is very misinformed.........I'll also wager as much as you want that wakey play at Belle Vue next season..........like it or not your stadium is the football clubs and no matter how many times you shout "we own 20%".........when they want you out you'll be gone.........have they told you which day your playing yet??????...........

I was speaking hypothetically re the ground sale to highlight how things could change and you might then not be so smug about our plight.

You seem to be conveniently forgetting that you cancelled the saints game cos town were at Wembley so you and saints didn't have to back up like everyone else.

Perhaps if you were a bit more specific in your cack handed explanation things might be a bit more clearer, you really seem confused because you admit that you HAD to change a game to accommodate the mighty Terriers because presumably with them having twice as many shares as you they get first call, then go on to say nobody has controlling interest, which is it Einstein

So...in summary

The giants are owners of the stadium

No one wants to touch the toilet Wakefield call a ground and they might be homeless at any time
As for well run...lol

No in summary you pay to play there have a minority stake and will play second fiddle to the towns football team.

Let's not forget the only reason you play there at all is town. Had there been no football team there would have been no new ground. So just like all those times you finished bottom and never got relegated you have had more than your fair share of good luck

How many times is it now that they've finished bottom of the pile?????..... 10 ??????.........11 ?????............got to be a record however many............you'd think a club thats had a many "lives" as them would have a bit more respect for a club that has earned everything they've ever had..........as for them finishing above us.............I'll new very surprised if they win more than 1 game from here..........

You must have been a decent player in your time with a sidestep like that, the issue is your rented ground with a 20% share of nothing unless it's sold, you can't have much of a defence if you have deflect your argument by bringing our problems into it to bypass your up coming problems with the terriers.

fixtures and dates announced wednesday....

To get 80% HTFC would either have to buy the council's 40% share or the Giants 20 and 20 from the council, doubt either would give up their part or HTFC would have the money to do that.

We didn't 'cancel' it, it was us who requested the change due to the stadium staff going to Wembley.

Not quite true, the owner wants to touch it - he wants them out so they can build houses on it !

Hope the away games are do-able by train.

The home games are 3 local derbies so i will hope the club ( with Bri Blacker and Eorl now in charge of marketing) come up with something to entice the paying speccies, a ticket deal for all 3 or something along the lines.

Also hope we target the town fans, they're in a good mood at the moment and as long as we don't mention the S word we may be able to tempt a few to come to these.

Sorry to spoil your story, but they can't build houses on it.

The key phrase being "wants to"

Your assertion they "can't" build houses on it is based on what?

It was said developers couldn't build on the lindley moor green belt land....
Hundreds being built there as we speak...

Are jools...........farttown..........bigdaz........and jakeyigeteverythingwrong relatives via inbreeding............iq of 15 between em ........

Daz can you explain why a company owned by Dean Hoyle lodged various charges over the stadium on the 12 April 2017 where his company are noted as lenders to KDSL?

In addition in the last filed accounts the stadium was valued at just over 18m a figure which depreciated by c1m on the 2015 accounts figure and KDSL made a loss of 227k in the 2016 financial year.

Therefore 40% of the stadium value is c7.2m (probably less when this years reduced value is taken into account) and they reckon getting into the premier league is worth 200m. Even if town go straight back down they get 3 years parachute payments worth another c90m.

Consequently, it is utter folly to say town don't have the money and it looks like their chairman is already making moves to secure the asset or at least control it.