Yes because Tony Smith will no nothing about our players or team unless Dwyer tells him.

It is not as if they have played us twice this season ( and in both games they played the best they have all season) or that he can watch us on Sky or send scouts to watch.

Dwyer played well and allowed us to spell Lunt. If PA wants to bring Leeming on at a slower pace then fine.

He will play again this season and hopefully ready to step up to regularly playing when he is ready.

agree about the brown stuff daz, was quite surprised when it started, as far as im aware kev brown did nothing wrong apart from want the best for himself and his family.he gave good service to us over the years but I think some people blame him and his namesake for our collapse last year, NB also copped some abuse at the first game, no need for it IMO, they both served us well and abusing them is/was well out of order.


jools, I laughed at that caravan thing as well as the PA bloke stating that widnes have the best and most fans in rugby league! think he had had one too many shandies..

thought robinson was caught out abit for pace by marsh for two of widnes's tries..makeshift centre ferres prob didnt help.

dont agree with the abuse of brown either, great servant for us.

good night all in all.

Disagree about Ferres at centre I thought he and Taai caused them massive issues.

If we get this aussie from Landannn then we could put him in for Fooey position and have Fooey as hooker cover for Lunt

If he signs- That won't be happening till next year.

Oh come on Durham! Wake up- yes smith can look at past stuff vids etc- but having insider knowledge of the intended team tactics for that game will be invaluable- any niggles our players have etc - will all be exploited-there is a lot more info he can get from Dwyer than what he can glean from watching videos- if he doesn't use it he's daft!

Fair enough, I wasn't clear from the LE piece when it might happen.

Personally I think Leeming is an option, but think he's still some way off from what I have seen albeit very promising

Leeming played for 15 minutes the other week and people on here think they know better than Paul Anderson and he should get a regular place.
While I thought he did very well it was blatantly clear to me he is very lightweight in defence and could be a liability in a big game.

So in 15 minutes it was blatantly clear he was lightweight in defence? (Making 8 tackles and missing NONE, cf to Robbo 10 tackles missed 3) But not blatantly clear he looked a lot more cool calm and collected than Dwyer.
So you are suggesting we don't give him a regular spot-fair enough what do you suggest we do mess about with our squad for a cup game or chuck him in at the deep end or something else?

He didn't miss a tackle but he was knocked back a long way by the Wire forwards who ran straight at him.
In the cup Lunt will probably do the full 80 with Faiumu able to back up if needed.
The club will be well aware of how he is progressing and hopefully he can get another couple of games before the end of the season but he is not ready to play week in week out

Stella- all our players were knocked back by their forwards! As they were against Leeds also.

He did OK last night in the academy game, but its a big jump to first grade, he's very promising I agree but think he's not quite up to top flight just yet, so tend to agree with Stella.

I think we need to trust in the coaching team, they're getting most thinks right, I like the way they're going about it this year.

agree they did i meant with the tries that widnes scored down that side, with wardle there i think it would of been a different outcome.

Leeming looked good for the brief spell he was on, one thing though was his passing from the ruck needs to be much sharper

Maybe a spell at Batley would do him good?

penalty count in favour of the opposition again!!!!

9-1 in widnes favour in the second half

Just a point- Wigan just hammered London without their first choice halfbacks- youngster george williams making his debut and Sam Powell the other who played -they have a combined age of 38.

I actually thought Leemings distribution was good.

But what was it in the first half?

It was blatantly obvious that he was evening things up in the 2nd half.

widnes had 4 , giants had 6 pens given in the first half

Ta. Thought we would have had more.

I have been the first to knock Taii but fair play to him
30 tackles and 128 metres is a top effort in attack and defence.

I really see Taai as a younger Ali lautiti over at wakey. Look at the body shape and the length of his arms!
The size of the man will attract three players every tackle and if his engine can get to the same levelvas ferres and Lawrence "both 80 min men which is huge for blokes there size" he will be immense!
The reason I mentioned his long arms is as big alli the offloads in the tackle and back door passes will be frequentl and devastating.
Hopeful that he will become a player that can be compared with big Ali, solomona ect

In his younger days Lautiti has some pace to go with the size which made him a serious attacking threat.

Thing is the coaches said it would take him a few months to catch up but people still complained about him....now, we are starting to see what we were told he COULD do ..and people are now saying oh yeah we were wrong .
You weren't wrong , just impatient

very true, the club was always very confident he would come good given time, dont forget he had no pre season with us and was two months behind everyone.

agree about the similarities with ali lautiti too!