I find it hard to understand anyone that disagrees with DGs assessment, perhaps his score of 1/10 is .harsh, but the points made are valid. I for one am concerned. Buying a season ticket is not necessarily value (due to friday/monday matches and holidays I personally will only get to 7-9 home matches). There are plenty decent seats in the stadium so seat renewal deadline is irrelevant. I want to see something to excite me, I am pretty sure there are a lot thinking like that.

So not yet an unmitigated disaster imo, but I await the mitigation with interest.

Just because we have a lot of fickle fans who won't renew doesn't automatically confirm that last season was totally disastrous.

Good job there are a hard core who will back the club through thick and thin by buying st's,otherwise there wouldn't be a club for the fickles to come back to if the good times returned.

HAVE FAITH - no matter how misplaced you might perceive it to be.

Well I have renewed today but the reality is that I'm not going to be making anything like every game. I've uhmmed & ahhhed about it, crunched numbers etc and just bought one anyway. I hope they make it worth my while.

here we go again not renewing am renewing if so and so happens i will do over the season i've been a big critic of what's happened on the field.but look at the whole season top of the league,semi final in cup,goin to hull with a cat in hell's chance of winning,top 8 because of good early season.yes we fell away why we shall never know but for me i shall be renewing my £250+ season ticket. for me one more big prop in the next few days leave grix where he is eden scored his tries off his inside passes end of rant

Problem is people want and want now. Look how long it took Warrington to get where they are now-they got there eventually in part because the fans stuck with them. Hull have been trying a lot longer than us to raise themselves out of the "filler" and have just one piece of silverware to show. They are building a good team for next year- fans stuck by them. Those who are expecting overnight success are expecting too much. Three -four years is NOTHING. We won't get there without the true hardcore increasing-paying on the gate doesn't help the club, season tickets are SO important for the club to be able to plan.

I'm not going to dissect the season-done that already

I have been waiting 34 years hardly looking for instant success

Not talking about the diehards such as you Durham, Daz, meast etc- many others in here- those of us who remember the fartown days really do know the dark times! When youve waited that long-whats one more year!

I mean the new ST holders who bought cheap and expected instantly.

Best Forward: Eorl 80 minutes Crabtree
Best new forward - Fairbanks - tackle machine for first 2 months.
Best Back/Half-back: Danny Brough
Best new signing:Greg Eden-great talent and looking forward to watching him develop with us - which will include errors too. Great topic for threads too. Think his dive vs wires (?) to keep a ball in play was tremendous - or was it Wigan at home.
Worst new signing: Scott Moore - what were we thinking ?
Best young player(u23): Big G or joe wardle - missed him when he was injured.
Favourite moment: Beating Leeds with 12 men and confirming that I had not imagined the first quarter of the season.
Worst moment: the 6 - 8 weeks were Nathan should have left earlier but hung around and claimed he had found the solution etc etc

overall opinion: - started well again but no plan B. Think a big moment was away at hkr when they showed everyone else how to beat us - just run your big guys down the centre and see how few props we really have.
Marks out of 10 for the season: 6/10

Season ticket renewed + jnr too.
Where else could we spend Sunday afternoons / friday nights / monday nights drinking over priced warm beer and eating chicken balti pies?
Roll on next season.

Those cheap tickets might come back to bite us on the ?! How much were the tickets when we came up from the NFP? Our tickets are still cheap, the only reason people are disappointed is because we have higher expectations now. We have some outstanding moments and they definitely represent value compared to other clubs, dont forget we still finished 7th, higher than half the other teams and i would bet our tickets were some of the cheapest. On top of this we are offered the pay monthly at 0% interest offer, cant go wrong, how many people pay £40/50 per month for a phone for 2 years, a season ticket will be this for 4 months and you get your weekly dose of rugby. Cant go wrong!
Saying this i know as much as anyone how hard the times are and how scarce money is, i just couldnt go a year without my fix of highs and lows of rugby.

'fro nips, there may be a 0% interest for the instalments option, but there is a £20 admin fee which if you're buying just one equates to over a 20% APR

At what stage does a season ticket become too expensive for you.
£200 ?
£300 ?
£500 ?

WITH MY PETROL COSTS AND SEASON TICKET the basic cost is £720 regardless of anything else. That almost equates to 2 months spending money.

I cannot justify that to see some of the crap i have had to witness. If i was convinced that i was going to be served something better than the rubbish i have had to put up with i maybe would make the sacrifice. The other option is that i will pick and choose my games

Been said on here before but some of the old timers are the most critical and negative about the team and some of the newer fans are the ones who add to the atmosphere home and away.

Until the clubs fans see themselves as one entity the club as a whole is unlikely to move on at least in the direction everyone old and new wants.

We have loads of families at every game and we need those kids to want to be there for years and years to come not go to another RL team, Town, Leeds Utd or whoever and in someways it is them who will shape the future as the 2,000 odd Fartowners dwindle through old age.

In 2012 I think we had our 5th best finish in the league in the last 34 years. We reached a CC semi (maybe only 6 of those in 34 years?) and did the double over Leeds (the only time in 34 years). So one of our best seasons in 34 years.

Your repeated moaning and whinging is repetitive. It may tell us more about the fate of you and your 14 fellow travellers than the state of the club against the back drop of your 34 years experience.

Plenty of fans are very disappointed with 2012 but they get over it rather than bask in their woes. They have a bit of Yorkshire grit. They 'man up' rather than whimper.

COYG!

I so hope that i am wrong. I love your positivity. I am looking forward to Anderson being given the same backing that NB was. I so look forward to the massive increase in season ticket sales next season. I so look forward to Ken saying how pleased he is that the club are moving forward and that NBs years with a full salary cap and all the support he could have required led to great success.

I lok forward to the announcement that the club was very happy with the recruitment we had for last season where we let go Raleigh, Kirmond and Lunt and brought in Moore, Ferguson and Tonks.

I look forward to getting on the same cigarettes you obviously smoke.

Some of us woman up!









In fact I think I've just put my finger on the problem...

I don't need cigarettes to see that it has been our 5th best season in the last 34 years. Or to enjoy seeing our 18s / 16s and 15s all going so well. Or to see several young players develop during a challenging season.

Maybe in your world people need 'cigarettes' to be positive....what a shame. You are welcome to a world of looking for the negatives and then bleating about them ad nauseam. You can join the supporters not renewing their season tickets who complain about our poor sales in season tickets.



Many of us will not choose to wallow in the disappointments of this season. Nor exaggerate them. Instead we will 'man up / woman up' and support the Giants.

COYG!

Well said cripes!

Haaaaaaaaalelujah!!

I thought brainwashing was against human rights???



I`ll be watching from afar in 50 years if things dont turn out and see if blind faith is still as strong with the ladies !!

(and PS before there are any comments --yes --Ive renewed!! as in the previous 36 years (before that I paid per match) )

and yes -as such I remain a realistic believer!! --Praise be!!

But seriously -- sport is I believe part of the entertainment industry -yes/no??
and if DG et others dont think theyre being entertained or getting their money`s worth --their choice ! They earn it --they can chose how they spend it --even on fancy cigs!!


Its down to their own personal priorities and nowt to do with ANYONE else whatsoever !

There is quite a difference travelling to home and away games from London (one fan I know) Durham (need I expand) Stoke on Trent ( the lads a legend) and Wolverhampton and Nottingham ( yours truly for 6 seasons) than Berry Brow, Fixby ,or even Slaithwaite, Marsden etc ......................and for a considerable number of years and through the "dark times"
So I`d suggest a little more thought by some was pertinent before posting
Just my opinion !!

Well said. I agree with your thoughts on this, it's a 400 mile round trip for me, and like many I found this season hugely frustrating. I will renew but haven't yet, primarily because Luckily i can afford to and want to support the club.

S


Spot on. Those people trying to make out that 2012 was some particularly bad season should trying some thinking rather than infantile emoting.

You are correct re them thinking rather than repeatedly looking for faults and prattling on about them on here.

A little more thinking and a little less of the cry baby is a smart call

Well you can dress it up however you like with your play on words Cripes --it was another year completely wasted by bad decisions

...................and if you dont agree (which you obviously wont ) you really are easily pleased !

By the look on KD`s face at Hull --he wasnt !

I'm not sure what people were expecting- looking at our squad last year - and plenty on here said as much! The forward issue was discussed before the season started- the fact that we made a good start perhaps got people's hopes up but lack of forwards came to bite us in the butt coupled with some unfortunate injuries to jerry/ Fairbanks and lod.
It was disappointing- but not unexpected.

Good job we all don't walk away due to frustration,or we wouldn't have a club to follow.