That for me is the key and it's not just the responsibility of the clubs but many of our fans need to take a good long loook at themselves and ask why they watch the Giants because from what I hear every match most of them don't seem to enjoy it even if we win.

doesnt that just improve and away side following and only for one game ud still only have 6000

Everyone bring an inflatable doll?

i thought that was aimed at opposition fans ?

we have talked about our crowds for a while and our club has tried alot of stuff to improve but for now the appeal to the fans to come watch us is down to what we do on the field.

we have improved our crowd massively in the last 10 year but when you havent won summat its hard to keep improving growing attendances

It doesn't, it gives incentives for non-season ticket holders to buy a ticket

ST Holders can bring a friend.

Win sommert is the big one.

Try posters advertising next game in places like Mirfield, Brighouse, Ossett ect even to some extent Dewsbury and Batley ect trying to draw the crowds who don't have a SL team.

Invite Junior and amateur teams to watch a training session and have a look round the Galpharm, junior curtain raiser games prior to home match.

Scheme like Dulls, get 10k worth of fans and everyone pays £60 for season ticket, if the drivel they serve up has managed it the Giants might be able to.

Email all local, Heavy Wollen, Calderdale, Wakefield ect teams with ticket offers/ promotion posters ect.

Paper advertising but at least the town of Huddersfield promoting the club.

Win Sommert!!!!!!

Offer cheap season tickets? Didnt you already do that though?

How about the fans or the club make a free newspaper, just related to the giants and post them through letterboxes or give them around town!

No doubt that winning a trophy will make a big difference. Some fans take a pop at Wire's attendances these days with ridiculous snipes about 'glory hunters'. Bring 'em on! Lots of folks will only associate themselves with winners, and you can't prosper just on die-hards who'll turn up every week come what may. Clubs need as many glory hunters as they can get.

Exactly and why its crazy we get some supporters chant silly comments at supporters who decide to leave early, at least they turned up!

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could we not follows bradfords ideas.. whatever they have done ?.. to get 12500 against catalan on a sat evening tv game is great, especially for the quality of footy on offer

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I have ranted about this else where, but whilst ken Davy is ambitious the commercial side of giants is less ambitious and weaker than he needs.
Firstly winning a trophy will help as people like to be associated with success and it will raise profile etc, but it is not the full answer. Both man united and Liverpool raised their fan bases in their trophy less periods.
The answer is about understanding fans - and the full match day experience - not just what happens at game time, and see fans as customers and not take them for granted.
Who are giants competitors? Not other rl clubs, but peoples busy lifestyles, x boxes, tv, time at pub, friends and family etc. This is why the whole match day experience and fan engagement matters. Hull do some great stuff like a pre and post match local radio broadcast, have a phone a director evening, get involved with local businesses who use the club with employees etc.
Giants are good with schools and local community but weak with businesses.
You try and find out much it costs to sponsor a player on web site.
The real answer would be to get giants to really understand what makes us fans tick - what we like , what we don't like, and what suggestions we have. A fans forum, a fans survey, and geneniuely understanding the giants fan
experience , and boldly act on the back of it.
Is what is needed to increase the fan base - more fan engagement - and a philosophy that fans are customers, and customers are fans....

Good call, some very good points there.....can you email that post to the club

It's no good blaming the marketing department. Rugby League is a small, regional, sport who's champions and most succesfeul side can only draw an average of 17,000. How in the name of all that's holy does anyone excpect most sides to draw attendances of more than 10,000? That would be like expecting most Premier League sides to attract an average of 44,000. Something only 4 sides do.

Man United get 75,000 yet teams like Chelsea and Tottenham draw between 35 and 40,000. Bolton only get 20,000 and Blackpool and Wigan get 15-16,000.

And that's in a sport with a truly international profile and with so much money they pay average players like Frank Lampard and John Terry £75-100,000 a week.

8-9,000 is more reasonable within these parameters for a team like ourselves and teams at the bottom should be getting 3-4,000.

Unless we can improve spectator levels across the board it is unreasonable to suggest that we will significantly increase our crowds.

Even if we do it will probably be at the expense of Leeds and Bradford rather than from some mythical stream of untapped supporters who are sat around on a Sunday afternoon thinking "I'm bored i wish there was something I could do that involved watching 26 men fight over a ball for 80 minutes in Huddersfield".

some very good point there

you went through a gereration of struggling for survival,and that curtailed the handing down the traditions of the "team of all talents"and "come on fartown"etc,but thev potential is still there and I dont think it will take many years to develope a larger fan base,especially if you win SL this year.Leeds in 1998 averaged 17,600 best average since 1950,now you can bet many of those were new fans attracted to the club because of the success they were having.Those floating fans are there to be attracted and then keep some of them

i've said it before the only way we will significantly improve our crowds is if we becoming very succesful and win things regularly, then the glory hunters around huddersfield who followed bradford, then leeds will jump on our trophy winning bandwagon,until then no amount of marketing or offers will do that.
we have to accept that the level of support for the rugby league team in huddersfield is small and that we are probably at our level right now.huddersfield sports fans are notorious for being only interested in glory ( hence the 32,000 town "Fans" at old trafford recently) so until we achieve that glory our crowds will more or less stay as they are.
it would be nice to regularly attract 10,000 but lets be real, its not gonna happen. it's taken us over 20 years to raise our support to 7,000 ish regulars after all.

Less than 5,000 today...including both crusader fans.
No good.
That said think we,ve had good atmospheres at shay trio games.

Look at us having a go at Crusaders fans! -there was alot more than 2, and for them to come over for a game which they were likely to lose whilst bottom of the table, a big thumbs up from me to those that did come over

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i think we hit lucky with the shay games being crusaders and catalans. Historically these are always very low attended games even by our own fans.

Having said that below 5000 is really poor - but i suspect the warm weather and the attraction of the east or west coast was too much for some people.

i went the day before and still look like an over ripe strawberry

While I agree with you to an extent, if Chelsea had a 75,000 seater stadium then I'm sure they could do a decent job of reaching those attendances. Many premierleague clubs are restricted by capacity. Arsenal have a 60,000 seater staidium but still have a huge waiting list for season tickets.

I agree that all teams won't be averaging top figures though, we are a club with a huge history but also current champions and will go top of the league with a win on wednesday, we are averaging 17k at the moment but that still isn't good enough IMO. We took 30k+ to Old Trafford and we got a sell-out for the Saints game, 17k home fans for the Warrington game, 18k home fans for the Hudds game, 24k home fans for the WCC and yet only 13k for some of the other games. We have enough support to fly above 20k.

Hudds took 15k+ to Wembley and Twickers. The demand is higher than their current average if they can reach out to it.

At Wigan out chairman wants our average to get up to 20k in time and our club does a lot to try and get to this total. He thinks we need 13k season ticket holders along with the other marketing initiatives to reach 20k average.

Hudds should steal some of the initiatives going on in the rest of the league and create some of their own.
-- Hudds could get 7,500 to pledge to buy a season ticket, this along with away support and the boost of other games could see them reach 10k
-- every year since 2009 we have had a 'big one' game.... this saw us get 21k against Leeds, 22k against wire and 19k against yourselves.... much higher than the usual crowds for these games.... we had a limited number of cheap tickets in each stand and lots of campaining up to the game... Hudds could do this for a game against us (because they already get big crowds against Leeds, who would be the obvious choice).
-- Also market the first home game as a 'home opener' we got 20k for this against wire in 2007... the fans have been starved of home RL for a long time so will be more likely to buy a ticket.
-- we sell tickets in bulk to local companies with large ticket deals.... Heinz have twice bought a whole stand which gave us 15k one year and 19k the following year both being against quins...
-- we do scrum tickets which allows one season ticket holder to invite 6 other people for a price of £5 a ticket, imagine if every season ticket holder used their scrum ticket... you can use it for one game during a season... we have 11k season ticket holders... each of them bringing 6 more people during the year would mean 66k more people through the gates which means a 5k increase in our average if everybody used them.
-- a festival of rugby goes on each year which invites thousands of kids from around the north west and the rest of the country to come and compete against each other and then attend a game later in the day...

I'm, not saying Hudds should take on all these ideas but it shows just a few could result in a big increase. A 10k average is more than realistic... it is very achievable. It is amazing what marketing can do, I study it so I know how big an impact it can have.

That scrum ticket initiative is a good idea imo. I too would also like more local businesses involved in the whole gameday experience.