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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Rightly so, it was a shocker, and you went in late after nearly every kick.'" After all the high shots Raleigh took last night he probably thought it was a free for all.
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| Quote ="PONNER"After all the high shots Raleigh took last night he probably thought it was a free for all.
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Is that part of your gameplan though, to target the oppositions best player (you did it last year with Deacs aswell). Noticed that Leeds do it a fair bit, dirty, but clever coaching to eliminate the threat.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"3?
Is that part of your gameplan though, to target the oppositions best player (you did it last year with Deacs aswell). Noticed that Leeds do it a fair bit, dirty, but clever coaching to eliminate the threat.'"
you must of been really dissapointed last night after getting so excited over your signings, you had ganson and we played with 12 men for 20 minutes ...still couldnt win
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you must of been really dissapointed last night after getting so excited over your signings, you had ganson and we played with 12 men for 20 minutes ...still couldnt win
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Disappointed, yes. But not overly worried. Its only Orford and Kearney's second game together, they need time to gel and the whole team needs time to get accustomed to Orfords plays. We've made a habit of losing the first game of the season now anyway.
Btw, you were the ones getting all excited about doing the double over us last year, which didn't happen . So see you all at Odsal later on.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"icon_lol.gif
Disappointed, yes. But not overly worried. Its only Orford and Kearney's second game together, they need time to gel and the whole team needs time to get accustomed to Orfords plays. We've made a habit of losing the first game of the season now anyway.
Btw, you were the ones getting all excited about doing the double over us last year, which didn't happen
. So see you all at Odsal later on.'"
yeh keep pinning your hopes on this 'time to gel' line... probably still be saying it next season
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"3?
Is that part of your gameplan though, to target the oppositions best player (you did it last year with Deacs aswell). Noticed that Leeds do it a fair bit, dirty, but clever coaching to eliminate the threat.'"
If we'd have targeted your best player last night. Ganson would have had to have been taken out by Fa'alogo
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"icon_lol.gif
Disappointed, yes. But not overly worried. Its only Orford and Kearney's second game together, they need time to gel and the whole team needs time to get accustomed to Orfords plays. We've made a habit of losing the first game of the season now anyway.
Btw, you were the ones getting all excited about doing the double over us last year, which didn't happen
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The more games we play the more monkeys we are getting off our back. There are a few still there but winning at Odsal last year was a biggie. A double over Bradford would be nice but I'd take a win at Knowsley Road or Headingley.
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| My problem last night was not so much the decisions against us but more the lack of inconsistency from Ganson
i've watched the game back and Bradford could have been penalised as much as if not more than us for exactly the same things - its alright laying a marker down at the start of the season but you have to be fair and equal with it and not just hammer 1 team !
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Rightly so, it was a shocker, and you went in late after nearly every kick.'"
Both teams challenged the kickers. There were equally 'late' hits on Hodgson and Robbo.
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| Quote ="GiantJo"Both teams challenged the kickers. There were equally 'late' hits on Hodgson and Robbo.'"
Didn't Sheriffe swing a punch at Hodgson too?
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| ATEOTD timing is bound to be a bit of an issue in the earlier games. We are a committed team and we could certainly have been better with our discipline last night. However, I think Ganson was leaning a little bit the other way from us last night and he could certainly have penalised Bradford more than he did. He was inconsistent IMO.
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Disappointed, yes. But not overly worried. Its only Orford and Kearney's second game together, they need time to gel and the whole team needs time to get accustomed to Orfords plays. We've made a habit of losing the first game of the season now anyway.
Btw, you were the ones getting all excited about doing the double over us last year, which didn't happen
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Problem is that Kearney is not a half back. There is a wealth of difference between a fullback who can come in at 1st/2nd receiver for plays and a full on half back. It seems Steve Mac does not appreciate the difference. Also L'Estrange is more a wagga mark II than a Newton. With platt and haley not being good ball playing fbs it means all meaningful plays will have to go through one man!
We did expect to beat you at the Galpharm last year. Sadly Steve Mac out coached Nathan Brown.........Steve Mac cunningly had you throw your Chalenge Cup game versus Catalans with that 2nd half reversal. This gave you a week off before the Giants vs Bulls game. Silly old Brown gave us a Cup run and an excellent semi final victory over Saints the week before the Bulls game. Hats off to Steve Mac
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Rightly so, it was a shocker, and you went in late after nearly every kick.'"
I have just watched the game on sky, (which i recorded as i was at the game, thought id say that before i get accused of being an armchair supporter!) and it was clear to me that andy raleigh was committed to the charge of the ball,if you watch it you can see he was trying to go for the ball as he kicked it. Oh and by the way i thought ganson was crap last night, but after watching it on tv it confirms that he was in fact crap!!! And we still won, HAPPY DAYS!!!!!!!
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| I certainly hope we can cut out the silly penalties asap because all it is doing is providing ammunition for people to perpetuate the stuff about wrestling, grappling, laying on etc.
We have a really good defence, doing silly stuff just puts pressure on ourselves.
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| After watching match again I think most calls by Ganson were correct but he really does need to apply the rules to both set of Teams. Very one sided in 2nd half. C
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| It's always easy to moan when you are at the game and it seems like the ref is hammering you for pens,i've done it many times myself. Watch it later on TV and 99% of the time the ref is right. Gilmour was a pain in the backside with his interference most of the night and his sin binning was correct. Robinson was holding on to long. Sin binning correct. I also believe Ganson was right to put raleigh on report,that was a very late challenge. Bulls did seem to get away with a little bit of interference,but giants always seemed to have the measure of them anyway.
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| Quote ="Wilderspool memories"It's always easy to moan when you are at the game and it seems like the ref is hammering you for pens,i've done it many times myself. Watch it later on TV and 99% of the time the ref is right. Gilmour was a pain in the backside with his interference most of the night and his sin binning was correct. Robinson was holding on to long. Sin binning correct. I also believe Ganson was right to put raleigh on report,that was a very late challenge. Bulls did seem to get away with a little bit of interference,but giants always seemed to have the measure of them anyway.'"
I don't think anyone is moaning about how many penalties we were pulled up for mate. It's more of a case of why weren't the Bulls pulled for doing the same thing?
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| Quote ="PONNER"I don't think anyone is moaning about how many penalties we were pulled up for mate. It's more of a case of why weren't the Bulls pulled for doing the same thing?'"
Maybe he felt sorry for them?
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| Quote ="Wilderspool memories"Maybe he felt sorry for them?
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When our positions were reversed Ganson never felt sorry for us.
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| Brown didn't slam Ganson in the red button show.
He said he thought Ganson was right in the first half but seemed to let Bradford get away with laying whilst and penalising us.
He also said he is a great person to know and a real laugh - I guess referring to Eorls RLFactor night.
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| Quote ="PONNER"If we'd have targeted your best player last night. Ganson would have had to have been taken out by Fa'alogo
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Classic response, just spat me tea over the screen, you git
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| Quote ="Birkbygiant"Classic response, just spat me tea over the screen, you git
'" It's a nice thought though isn't it, Ganson getting a stiff arm
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| I think Nathan Brown was right when he said the Giants would have got 40 points if the game had have been refereed right .
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| Quote ="Wilderspool memories"It's always easy to moan when you are at the game and it seems like the ref is hammering you for pens,i've done it many times myself. Watch it later on TV and 99% of the time the ref is right. Gilmour was a pain in the backside with his interference most of the night and his sin binning was correct. Robinson was holding on to long. Sin binning correct. I also believe Ganson was right to put raleigh on report,that was a very late challenge. Bulls did seem to get away with a little bit of interference,but giants always seemed to have the measure of them anyway.'"
No mention of the punch swung at D Hodgson from Sherrife? no mention of the late 3rd man in flops from Langley? no mention of the holding down from L'estrange where he bends the tackled players legs back as they held down?
Nope always just the Giants committing offences, TBH Ganson could have penalised Bradford for being offside or laying on and binned Sherrife for the swinging arm ect, just same as us but chose not to.
ATEOTD we won the game due to brilliant effort and defence but it should be a level playing field in my eyes or else why bother with a salary cap?
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