Or write in english it seems.

Looks like Gareth Hock will not be coming to the Giants next year then.

the fact that there were rumours around him coming here a couple of months ago makes you wonder whether Wigan were trying to offload him before this broke without telling anyone. If that was the case they were being very , very naughty.

Don't see how that is possible. The sample that proved positive was taken on June 5th.

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he would of had an opportunity for a 2nd sample surly?

Ian Lenegan comes across as a principled guy.

The talk was , according to you, a couple of months ago whie the drug test was just over 2 weeks ago.

If Wigan knew there to be a problem they would deal with asap. Not wait til the lad got caught.

Might explain his totally over the top behaviour in the "Friendly" Never liked the t**t.Isn't he Brown's brother in Law?

Quote ="Mutts"he would of had an opportunity for a 2nd sample surly?'" www.wiganwarriors.com/news_full.asp?newsid=4880 "Pursuant to Article 7.2.3. of the Anti-Doping rules of the RFL, Gareth has been charged with an Anti-Doping Rule Violation and his Registration has been Provisionally Suspended by the RFL awaiting the B:Sample Test on June 30th."

Quote ="Mutts"he would of had an opportunity for a 2nd sample surly?'" www.wiganwarriors.com/news_full.asp?newsid=4880 "Pursuant to Article 7.2.3. of the Anti-Doping rules of the RFL, Gareth has been charged with an Anti-Doping Rule Violation and his Registration has been Provisionally Suspended by the RFL awaiting the B:Sample Test on June 30th."

i stand corrected , he should of not been allowed to represent England if this was pending

He is so principled he offered Stephen Kearney the coaches job behind Nobles back when he was supposedly negotiating with players in Australia.

As there was no link i did not know that the sample had been taken on 2nd of June and assumed wrongly that these things tend to break some months after the test.

As for Wigan dealing with it properely i find it concerning and unfair it has been leaked before his b sample has been tested.

I'm not au fait for the residence times for the metabolytes of cocaine in the human body but it would make sense to me to re-sample the subject asap. Delaying for 7 days seems stupid. Unless that's when the results are due and not the sample being taken of course.

i think they may take 2 at the same time and get a 2nd opinion on the same sample from a different lab or technician

Wigan allowed him to speak to the Giants last time for another off the field incident non drug related. He said though he would get his act together and stop being a prat off the field. Clearly he lied.

If you want to call Lenegan a liar do so. I will certainly forward your comments to the Wigan club.

There is nothing unprincipled about offering a coach a job and doing so in confidence. if you have facts that prove IL lied then produce them.

If you took the time to find out more about drug procedures you would not need to be so judgemental about Wigan. This is exactly what happens in other sports. Blaming wigan here is a joke.

Why is it that people have a wonderful gift and they throw it all away?

From what I have heard he allegedly used to miss training sessions and go AWOL anyway.

A real shame if it's true.

Do you mean English?

It's easy to make mistakes evryone does it.

Yes they do!

However, Mutts makes a habit of it while trying to score points. It is very funny.

I think you were a little too quick off the mark their MG.
Think about it

Hock

line and sinker Clan.

and you sir make a habit of mentioning me or Wakefield.if you ask me nicely i will send you a photo and a pair of undies but please dont boil my bunnies

back onto hock this could be worse for Huddersfield if they lose mossop so in theory wigan dont really suffer the suspension

How would it be worse? Mossop is not our player long term and we're fully aware of that. Mossop didn't feature this weekend despite Kirmond being out. It would equate to the loss of a short term option but the ones we have remaining are far better than many other clubs.

For all your pontificating regarding MG and the apparent fixation you don't seem to be doing a bad job yourself. It is this hypocrisy that is the best bit really. That and you squirming for an excuse for using arbitrate in completely the wrong context.

If you lot actually want these pious bleats to mean anything then you have to practise what you preach. Until then expect it back over the top in spades and your toys to carry on flying.

thanks for a reasonable response , not to keen on your dummy spit at the end .

Obviously now the other thread is locked you seem to be trying to pick an arguement with another poster even one from this board normally i would ignore you but hey what the hell.

Where did i call Lenegan a liar



You were the one who wanted to raise issues about Lenegan being principled. As that it is a matter of judgement rather than facts everyone can make up their own mind . Personally i think that offering a job to some one behind the incumbents back is a bit unprincipled.

maybe sack Noble and then ask for candidates is the principled way of doing it. just my opinion.


As for Drug procedures i well understand them and as far as i am aware it is not normal practice to release details on an indavidual until the B sample has been tested on the grounds that the said indavidual is now condemned before the evidence is verified. Innocent until proven guiltyis usually the basis of justice.

he could have been quietly dropped for a game until the test was carried out or even an unnamed player without releasing A the name or B the drug is usually the way.

I am not blaming Wigan because it may have been leaked by someone else which forced Wigans hand so again no blame just stating that it still appears unusual that it has all happened so quickly.

In respect of Wigan i do accept that they have responded as per the doping rules ( although i disagree with them as i make a differentiation between performance and recreational use of drugs but that is a separate discussion).

No doubt you will carry this on with the usual pattern of your behaviour on these boards, pedantic point scoring, personal abuse and then making a joke of it all before the thread gets closed down because you have derailed it again but at least it will keep you happy.



Notice the little wink for you

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I hope you are not allowed near children. Your need to be unseemly is lurid. But hey, maybe you are just misspelling words and do not know you are doing it. [FFS....'arbitrates'