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| when it's all sorted hope he goes on a diet and losers that chip on his shoulder
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| Quote ="Skelmanthorpe Giant"when it's all sorted hope he goes on a diet and losers that chip on his shoulder'"
Really? IMHO that is what you want from a number 7!!
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| Quote ="SimonBarrett"Come on then, cards on the table, who do you think the player (s) will be??
p.s i have no idea!!!'" If I told you i'd have to you. It's nice knowing the truth and watching you all speculate
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| Quote ="PONNER"If I told you i'd have to
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| Quote ="The Clan"Danny's agent is well aware of the strong interest from the Giants or to be more precise,Nathan Brown who desperately wants to add him to his team.
[ NB is so laid back he is not desperate about signing any player. Of course he would like DBs kicking game, who wouldn't? there are other players OOC for 2011 that could do a job for NB.
His agent is also aware that two other SL clubs have made their interest known and asked to be kept informed of developments.
[Other clubs are interested in a quality player. No s**t sherlock! Has such a thing ever happened in RL before? Do you think other clubs were interested in Gilmour or Fa'alogo or Brett? It happens all the time.
After Danny's agent informed them of this, the Giants decided to act now instead of waiting, prudent on their part, but it hands Wakefield the whip hand in negotiations.
[ Why does it give wakey the 'whip hand'? if other clubs want DB they too can try and sign DB at any time.If they are full cap sides they would have to juggle things around, just as the Giants would.
If the Giants want to avoid a Dutch auction with two other clubs they have to come up with an offer that suits Wakefield.
[What nonsense! All the other clubs can start an auction for DB whenever they want to. Indeed as Trin want the best deal they should be activiely speaking to the 2 other SL clubs and good luck to them as long as DB will go to those clubs and some players will go in the opposite direction
So from the Giants point of view it means balancing what they can/will/are prepared to pay to Wakefiled against the potential rise in wages that a three way tug of war for his services would instigate.
[There are at least 2 very good Oz 7s available in 2011. The Giants are going well and Drew is back in a few weeks. The SL teams showing an inerest in DB will almost certainly be interested in these other guys. Add to this how well Grix has gone at 7 and this argument about a desperate Giants looks dumb
With Salary cap restrictions at the forefront of peoples thinking an extra £20-£40 grand a year for the next 3/4 years is a major issue.
[So in one paragraph we have the scenario of 3 SL clubs throwing £ in a dutch aucton to get Brough. Yet a few sentences later we have salary cap restrictions as a major issue
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You couldn't make this up....oh wait a minute,
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| got told it's monies set aside for carny's contract had he stayed on for 2nd year and as that did'nt happen it's now getting used on this, also he might not come till end of season anyway as we're not in a position to be blackmailed by wakey as we are in no hurry for another half back
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| Quote ="r-d"got told it's monies set aside for carny's contract had he stayed on for 2nd year and as that did'nt happen it's now getting used on this, also he might not come till end of season anyway as we're not in a position to be blackmailed by wakey as we are in no hurry for another half back'"
Everybody knows that NB is desperate for his signature and uncle moneybags has the dosh, so that pretty much leaves Wakey holding all the Aces in the negotiation! Work it out from that!
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| Quote ="GiantJo"You couldn't make this up....oh wait a minute,'"
Do your eyes bulge when you talk, because you seem a little edgy, shall we say?
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| Its going to be anounced an undisclosed fee= saving wakeys embarrassment
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| Quote ="r-d"Its going to be anounced an undisclosed fee= saving wakeys embarrassment
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But you don't pay fees.
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| Quote ="r-d"Its going to be anounced an undisclosed fee= saving wakeys embarrassment
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you really don't comprehend do you
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Do your eyes bulge when you talk, because you seem a little edgy, shall we say?'"
Ooow Dr Freud you are so.....deep
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"But you don't pay fees.
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yes but to save embarrassment for Wakefield they have done a U turn
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| Quote ="deeHell"Everybody knows that NB is desperate for his signature and uncle moneybags has the dosh, so that pretty much leaves Wakey holding all the Aces in the negotiation! Work it out from that!
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Does having such c**p finances that you faced a winding up order remove a few aces?
NB desperate. You are silly.
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| Wakefield may be losing their top player. The one player most oppositions genuinely fear. Now look at their supporters flapping about clutching at straws. If the deal goes through it just adds to the pleasure
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| Quote ="GiantJo"Does having such c**p finances that you faced a winding up order remove a few aces?
NB desperate. You are silly.
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today on jackanory "The worried sheep of Marsden" narrated by Mr Davy
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| Quote ="MUTLEY CAT"today on jackanory "The worried sheep of Marsden" narrated by Mr Davy'"
Is that the best you can muster?
Back to topic:I hope we get Brough. Such a good player.
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| Pssst keep it to yourselves and i'll tell ya. The deal has been done. It's Brough in exchange for £5 zillion and Cudjoe, Lolesi, Lawrence, Wild, D. Hodgson, Brown, Robinson, D. Griffin, Lunt, Raleigh, Gilmour, Fa'alogo, Aspinwall, Faiumu, Crabtree, Grix, Patrick, Whatuira, Drew, B. Hodgson, Kirmond and Mason.
It's a good will gesture from Ken so that we can start having some competative games against each other
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| Quote ="GiantJo"Is that the best you can muster?
Back to topic:I hope we get Brough. Such a good player.'"
no , good , so do i , very good
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| Quote ="PONNER"Pssst keep it to yourselves and i'll tell ya. The deal has been done. It's Brough in exchange for £5 zillion and Cudjoe, Lolesi, Lawrence, Wild, D. Hodgson, Brown, Robinson, D. Griffin, Lunt, Raleigh, Gilmour, Fa'alogo, Aspinwall, Faiumu, Crabtree, Grix, Patrick, Whatuira, Drew, B. Hodgson, Kirmond and Mason.
It's a good will gesture from Ken so that we can start having some competative games against each other
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still lose
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| Quote ="PONNER"Pssst keep it to yourselves and i'll tell ya. The deal has been done. It's Brough in exchange for £5 zillion and Cudjoe, Lolesi, Lawrence, Wild, D. Hodgson, Brown, Robinson, D. Griffin, Lunt, Raleigh, Gilmour, Fa'alogo, Aspinwall, Faiumu, Crabtree, Grix, Patrick, Whatuira, Drew, B. Hodgson, Kirmond and Mason.
It's a good will gesture from Ken so that we can start having some competative games against each other
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Thought we'd gort rif of Grix and Drew
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| Its really funny to me that weakfield fans are making out their coming out on top in all this. im sure that its on the same ilk as projection to a psychologist. we'll let u "Hold The Aces!" i'd rather be in the position of "dishing the cash out" rather than standing there with the begging bowl out! ,we'll pick a half back from the likes of robinson/brown/grix/wood/Mcnally and now Brough you can pick from well.... erm ben jeffries & ben jeffries oh the irony
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| Quote ="GiantJo"Wakefield may be losing their top player. The one player most oppositions genuinely fear. Now look at their supporters flapping about clutching at straws. If the deal goes through it just adds to the pleasure
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You will take pleasure at you clubs been taken the cleaners by Ted Richardson when extracting a big transfer fee and/or/plus player swap! I bet Robinson is relishing the thought of him coming!
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| Quote ="deeHell"You will take pleasure at you clubs been taken the cleaners by Ted Richardson when extracting a big transfer fee and/or/plus player swap! I bet Robinson is relishing the though of him coming!
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I read this and I think of Nat King Cole...
[i Quote ="Nat"
Smile though your heart is aching
Smile even though it's breaking
When there are clouds in the sky, you'll get by
If you smile through your fear and sorrow
Smile and maybe tomorrow
You'll see the sun come shining through for you
Light up your face with gladness
Hide every trace of sadness
Although a tear may be ever so near
That's the time you must keep on trying
Smile, what's the use of crying?
You'll find that life is still worthwhile
If you just smile
That's the time you must keep on trying
Smile, what's the use of crying?
You'll find that life is still worthwhile
If you just smile '" [/i
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| Quote ="r-d"Its really funny to me that weakfield fans are making out their coming out on top in all this. im sure that its on the same ilk as projection to a psychologist. we'll let u "Hold The Aces!" i'd rather be in the position of "dishing the cash out" rather than standing there with the begging bowl out! ,we'll pick a half back from the likes of robinson/brown/grix/wood/Mcnally and now Brough you can pick from well.... erm ben jeffries & ben jeffries oh the irony'"
And equally, I'm struggling to see how Huddersfield fans think that we don't hold the stronger bargaining chip.
Answer me this question: what do Wakefield lose if we say we aren't interested? I would say nothing, because we'll lose Brough at the end of the year anyway. It must follow, therefore, that we will get only what will interest us sufficiently, which makes it seem obvious that the offers will have to come from your side, not ours. We can just say no and be no worse off.
Ultimately, there will be a deal that all sides will be happy with, because there is no need for us to agree anything that we are not happy with, as we can wait and plan and shop around. So if we don't have to agree to anything, how can we have the weaker hand? There is no detriment to Wakefield at all in not agreeing to anything, as he will leave at the end of the season anyway at the end of his contract, whether it is to you or anyone else.
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