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| Quote ="jools"Whatever happens someone has been lied to. Including us fans. Personally I'm not a happy bunny.'"
ESPECIALLY the fans. Business is business, stuff happens - but the relationship with fans should be above that. The fans and, I suspect, Ken have been let down by what could be seen as roguish behaviour.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"According to the Zaminer [size=150legal fees could be £200,000[/size.
That could be a total of £367,000 in total!!!!!!'"
Well that just shows what an ass (rip off) our justice system is, once again the legal eagles get to line their own pockets.
Whoever is responsable for the decision to sack Mason for gross misconduct (laughable) without looking into the legality/implications of it all should do the honourable thing and tender their resignation. I fully support Mason's decision in taking the club to court, employers should know you can't just hire and fire people at the drop of a hat, correct disciplinary procedures whether you are a sportsman or work at Marks and Sparks have to be followed legally, if he'd had verbal, written and final warnings before for his conduct then all well and good but this would have come out in the hearing and as far as i know nothing was mentioned. It looks blatantly obvious the club were just looking for an excuse/half baked reason to get rid of him (replacement in already in pipeline) and didn't double check what constitutes a dismissal for "gross misconduct" and just chose to sack him regardless. The fallout from this is going to be very interesting, it all looks very amateur and"underhand" and as a result this self inflicted fiasco has cost, or is going to cost the club dearly.
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| I'd be very worried now if I hadn't scored a try cause if just a pic off your bum gets you sacked i'd hate to think what could happen if you had to do the naked run in a public place that happens after every season.
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| Quote ="saint joe"I'd be very worried now if I hadn't scored a try cause if just a pic off your bum gets you sacked i'd hate to think what could happen if you had to do the naked run in a public place that happens after every season.'"
lets be fair, the picture was an extreme closeup of Scott Moore's ar$ehole. Not a 'bottom'.
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| Quote ="M@islebugs"www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/10554871.Bradford_Bulls__Kopczak_transfer_back_in_the_spotlight/
Thewlis and Kopczak effectively accused of dishonesty in an RFL investigation.'"
That is an interesting article
it appears that the costs so far are
Loss of earnings £167 k
Court costs £35k
Legal fees £200 K ?
total of £412 k
plus this bit is interesting
Quote Mr Justice Saffman said the sum of £167,000 reflected loss of Mason's actual and projected earnings.
He said the legal costs of £35,000 for the three-day hearing will also be passed on to the club.
=#FF0000Terms of the damage payment will be discussed at a further hearing, at a date yet to be set.'"
This could mean more money because it may take into account emotional affect on Masons well being, reputation, loss of testimonial money = X £ 000's
allied to the RFL finding the club of being naughty boys X £000,s
looks like the club are looking at over[size=200 HALF A MILLION POUNDS
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Will Ken answer the question of whether Lying to an RFL inquiry should be regarded as sending a good image of being a family club ? should it be regarded as Gross misconduct ?
Will the club ban the naked run ?
Will the club ban Mad Monday ?
Is being hungover a disciplinary offence ?
Are all players now going to be told that drinking alcohol is banned ?
Will players look Fielden in the eye and think that he does not respect them because they have never won anything ?
Knowing the management are happy to stitch you up does that help create a happy working atmosphere ?
Does the above do anything for team spirit ?
What a complete and utter FOOK UP by the Giants
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| Quote ="Wadski"lets be fair, the picture was an extreme closeup of Scott Moore's ar$ehole. Not a 'bottom'.'"
To be fair any picture of Scott Moore could be described as a picture of an ar£ehole.
Just think though this would not have happened if NB had not decided Lunt was no good and should go to Leeds which left us needing to get another hooker in.
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| They send a statement about been a family run club with morals yet they have tapped up a player who was still in contract and lied to the RFL
Totally hypocritical
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"To be fair any picture of Scott Moore could be described as a picture of an ar£ehole.
Just think though this would not have happened if NB had not decided Lunt was no good and should go to Leeds which left us needing to get another hooker in.
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You have spoken a lot of sense on this subject so far but blaming Nathan Brown lol
I say it was Scott Grix's fault
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| Quote ="the stella kid"You have spoken a lot of sense on this subject so far but blaming Nathan Brown lol
I say it was Scott Grix's fault'"
There is another forum where you can post that
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| yet another example in this country of employers thinking they can treat their staff any way they chose, i love the giants, but this shows yet again managements total disrespect of employees throughout this country, mason regardless wether he was a good enough standard of player or not, is in my opinion fully justified in taking this stance and rightly so has been proven correct. Head should roll at the management team at the giants but they wont as per usual as kens statement shows they will stick together and brazen it out.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"To be fair any picture of Scott Moore could be described as a picture of an ar£ehole.
Just think though this would not have happened if NB had not decided Lunt was no good and should go to Leeds which left us needing to get another hooker in.'"
I like it. Blame this on Brown too
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| Quote ="goodie"yet another example in this country of employers thinking they can treat their staff any way they chose, i love the giants, but this shows yet again managements total disrespect of employees throughout this country, mason regardless wether he was a good enough standard of player or not, is in my opinion fully justified in taking this stance and rightly so has been proven correct. Head should roll at the management team at the giants but they wont as per usual as kens statement shows they will stick together and brazen it out.'"
Totally agree
The whole episode stinks, don't think the club can preach about anybody elses moral standards after this self inflicted farce.
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| It just wouldn't seem like a normal season if we didn't have some kind of drama at some point. Roll on sunday where we can focus on whats on the field.
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| Quote ="Mad_Jack_Mcmad"Who gives a toss. It's not like anyone likes us anyway.
We killed Sheffield
We killed Paris
We ruthlessly crushed the dreams of Dewsbury and Hunslet to preserve our Superleague status
We have no crowds
We sign young players from Castleford to keep ourselves alive rather than develop our own
Ken Davy is a financial vampire who crippled Town to fuel his ambitions for the Giants
This court case won't make a blind bit of difference to anyone. The haters will hate whatever happens. They can all rot in hell for all I care.'"
no one likes us we dont care!
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| =#FF0000EDited not the best time to be making allegations which may have legal implications mick
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| Quote ="brearley84"=#FF0000Edited mick'"
MODS!!!
Another money making opportunity for Mason!!
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| Quote ="wakeyrule"MODS!!!
Another money making opportunity for Mason!!'"
brealey hasnt done anything wrong.. he was just saying that keith might like the odd pepsi cola rather than fanta
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| Quote ="brearley84"icon_lol.gif no one likes us we dont care!'"
Bet you care more now they have fined you.
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| Test for that, do they?
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| Quote ="PopTart"Bet you care more now they have fined you.'"
What is the fine for?
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| Quote ="Wadski"www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytQ6hmyoVmQ
appears so.'"
Ha!
Well if you're happy with the comment not being libellous. It's not as if you've a history of legal errors......
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| Quote ="Wadski"Okay. Three words....
Legal Expense Insurance.
I refer to the post I wrote earlier in the thread. This case will have been underwritten by a policy.'"
That would only cover the costs not the damages. If you had EPL insurance this may cover the compensation element otherwise the club will have to pay it
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| I cant believe the club have actually come out and defended their decision with all this morals crap - yes we are a family club but they are also a business who have broken rules and being found guilty of breaking rules !!
They should be apologising to the fans, the sponsors, the local community etc for:
A) sacking Mason unfairly
B) tapping up Koppy illegally
C) bringing shame, embarrasment and un-needed bad publicity to all the good thing we have done.
I'm no legal person or businessman but just reading what happened was enough to tell me we were in the wrong and gonna get buggered - so why didnt the top people at the club stop and think about what they were doing for a second?
Did they really think that what they did was ok and wouldnt be found out ?
Dont get me wrong i love this club to pieces and would die (i nearly have) for it, but i cannot help but worry for the future if people paid to run it are making huge, costly errors like these.
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| Ken Davey - doing it for the children. Awwww Bless.
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