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| Quote ="Baron Greenback"The people of Wakefield need to have a look at themselves.
Their team are doing them proud and deserve better support than that.'"
Cheers for them pearls of wisdom!
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| Quote ="Danril"Just to add in some Wakey attendance stats here:
Average YTD is 5,772. Average for 2008 was 6,962. Down 17%
Average compared to the like for like fixtures from last season is down 19% and on a round to round basis is down 24%
Wakeys highest attendance of the season so far (6,57icon_cool.gif is only 222 more than our lowest of the season so far (6,356).
Now, assuming that the crowd average stays the same that equates to 15,470 speccies less for Wakey this season. At an average of say £10 a pop, well, you're talking about £150k.'"
this is true but !!!!!
we have had Salford and Catalan at home already so only have Quinn's as a low attendance match to come .
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we still have Leeds , cas and hull kr to visit BV , i
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| Quote ="SimonBarrett"Cheers for them pearls of wisdom!'"
Unfortunately the people who will read BG's statement are the ones who don't need to. It's the other people sat at home on a Sunday. You've had it tough this year and you need your supporters to turn out in force - the team is performing but the support isn't.
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| Quote ="Danril"Yes, that's what it seems like to me. Cashflow problems, possibly due (at least in part) to reduced crowd levels from their projections.
Either way, what will be will be.'"
the club is currently in the black , now im no financial whiz kid or a member of the HBoS BoD but im sure that equates to not being skint.
you are right in what you say about the low level of attendances but im sure that by the time the next round of franchises come around our attendances would of rose up again.
it seems a lot have hit onto the fact that wakey tried to get 100K for brough but nobody as concluded that just maybe lowly little Wakefield may be about to ......lets say invest the cash in other ways and being prudent decided that they would try to raise the cash by offloading brough to the first suckers who would pay 100k. obviously they seem to have contacted Huddersfield first when this fell through Wakefield decide to raise 100k for player strengthening using us the fans .
sometimes information is a bad thing , im almost wetting myself . BTW have you listened to the pod cast for the wakey match . looks like Barrie mac is also an informed guy
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| Quote ="Wadski"Give the guy a bit of slack MG. I don't know the ins and outs of our club and why should I?
Do we have £100,000 to spend on a player? etc - I can not answer.'"
You know ST sales. And if the Giants announced some stadium naming rights fundraiser with a big fanfare you might expect to hear what happened. these are not private dealings after all.
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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"You know ST sales. And if the Giants announced some stadium naming rights fundraiser with a big fanfare you might expect to hear what happened. these are not private dealings after all.'"
that means nothing
its the private dealings that can screw a club , not saying for one minute your club is in any kind of trouble BTW if that was the case Mr Davey would be out like the king rat on the titanic.
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| Quote ="Mutts"the club is currently in the black , now im no financial whiz kid or a member of the HBoS BoD but im sure that equates to not being skint.
you are right in what you say about the low level of attendances but im sure that by the time the next round of franchises come around our attendances would of rose up again.
it seems a lot have hit onto the fact that wakey tried to get 100K for brough but nobody as concluded that just maybe lowly little Wakefield may be about to ......lets say invest the cash in other ways and being prudent decided that they would try to raise the cash by offloading brough to the first suckers who would pay 100k. obviously they seem to have contacted Huddersfield first when this fell through Wakefield decide to raise 100k for player strengthening using us the fans .
sometimes information is a bad thing , im almost wetting myself . BTW have you listened to the pod cast for the wakey match . looks like Barrie mac is also an informed guy
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I'm not on HBOS BoD or a financial whioz kid but being given £1.7million and only having £500K left is not running in the black whatever way you look at it. Looks more like =red£1.2Million
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| Quote ="Wadski"I'm not on HBOS BoD or a financial whioz kid but being given £1.7million and only having £500K left is not running in the black whatever way you look at it. Looks more like =red£1.2Million '"
depends on where the money as gone which tbf nobody on RLFans can give a proper full on answer although it as gone on other projects .
Don't know what Semi Tallulah's Bupa bill was but that was pretty steep (Aledgedly)
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| Quote ="Mutts"
we have had Salford and Catalan at home already so only have Quinn's as a low attendance match to come .
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We've had Quins and Catalans so only have Salford (who will bring more than either Quins or Cats) and we have had 2 home matches on Sky too.
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| Quote ="Mutts"depends on where the money as gone which tbf nobody on RLFans can give a proper full on answer although it as gone on other projects .
Don't know what Semi Tallulah's Bupa bill was but that was pretty steep (Aledgedly)'"
I would expect it shored up the application for a Franchise - Community Development, Academy, homegrown players etc.
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| Quote ="Wadski"We've had Quins and Catalans so only have Salford (who will bring more than either Quins or Cats) and we have had 2 home matches on Sky too.'"
Did not realise this had turned into a competition??
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| Quote ="SimonBarrett"Did not realise this had turned into a competition??'"
Only proving it is nearer a like-for-like comparison than Mutleycat thought.
But it is a competition - more fans = more cash = more to spent = more success?
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| Quote ="Wadski"We've had Quins and Catalans so only have Salford (who will bring more than either Quins or Cats) and we have had 2 home matches on Sky too.'"
yes and i for one applaud huddersfield's massive strides this year which is commendable. i was just pointing out that we have had some shocking crowds yes but we have better to come . We have also had Wire / Bulls in sulk mode whereas we normally get more fans at those games .
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| Quote ="Mutts"yes and I for one applaud Huddersfield's massive strides this year which is commendable. i was just pointing out that we have had some shocking crowds yes but we have better to come . We have also had Wire / Bulls in sulk mode whereas we normally get more fans at those games .'"
Agreed with the Bulls / Wire away following. Maybe having the fans in force and not the points would have been better.
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| Quote ="Wadski"Only proving it is nearer a like-for-like comparison than Mutleycat thought.
But it is a competition - more fans = more cash = more to spent = more success?'"
Not quite that simple is it? Ask Wigan fans!
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| Quote ="Mutts"the club is currently in the black , now im no financial whiz kid or a member of the HBoS BoD but im sure that equates to not being skint.
you are right in what you say about the low level of attendances but im sure that by the time the next round of franchises come around our attendances would of rose up again.
it seems a lot have hit onto the fact that wakey tried to get 100K for brough but nobody as concluded that just maybe lowly little Wakefield may be about to ......lets say invest the cash in other ways and being prudent decided that they would try to raise the cash by offloading brough to the first suckers who would pay 100k. obviously they seem to have contacted Huddersfield first when this fell through Wakefield decide to raise 100k for player strengthening using us the fans .
sometimes information is a bad thing , im almost wetting myself . BTW have you listened to the pod cast for the wakey match . looks like Barrie mac is also an informed guy
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The club will make plans for spend. I'm pretty confident that they will have predicted to match last seasons figures so they will be down on their projected income. That is my point.
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| Quote ="SimonBarrett"Not quite that simple is it? Ask Wigan fans!'"
It's certainly a more stable way of doing it - look at Leeds Utds plan:
Spend = Success = More Fans = Pays for Initial spend.
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| Quote ="Mutts"that means nothing
its the private dealings that can screw a club , not saying for one minute your club is in any kind of trouble BTW if that was the case Mr Davey would be out like the king rat on the titanic.'"
Then why not say who got the naming rights? Why not announce ST sales?
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| Quote ="SimonBarrett"Don't know
Not Sure
Don't know
Apparently funding is in place
You have answered your own question, just rumours
Not sure if that is a question
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So how much is the stadium and where is the £ coming from?
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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"So how much is the stadium and where is the £ coming from?'"
Again, dont know. But l dont expect to know (at this stage) anyway.
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| Quote ="Wadski"Agreed with the Bulls / Wire away following. Maybe having the fans in force and not the points would have been better.'"
i will settle for the points
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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"Then why not say who got the naming rights? Why not announce ST sales?'"
why do they have too , far to many folk criticize the Wakefield club for the leaks . I am amazed that so much is being kept under wraps at the Mo.
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| Quote ="Mutts"why do they have too ,'"
They dont have to but strange most other clubs have and yet you haven't
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| Quote ="Gahan"They dont have to but strange most other clubs have and yet you haven't'"
maybe its waystones
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| Quote ="Mutts"why do they have too , far to many folk criticize the Wakefield club for the leaks . I am amazed that so much is being kept under wraps at the Mo.'"
they do not have to.
they can choose to be pathetic and announce initiatives and then go quiet when they flop or not bother announcing actual ST sales.
So we have 2 secret financial indicators that point to poor performance plus the gates that appear way down - despite success on the field - and then out of the blue a sale of shares.
18 months on shareholders are eventualy tod the ground has been sold and that 0.5M of 1.7M remains.
Clearly to some this indicates a club on the up! To others it smacks of desperation.
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