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| Quote ="keefie"Totally agree with JOHND, apart from LMS, he got flattened by Eorl in the first half and really didn't know what day it was, but when he came back on in the second half he proved what a quality player he is.
Looked to me as though he had a point to prove.
I don't know why, but most of the Refs were sat in the Free seats, Ganson, Ben Filtham, Uncle Albert and Sharpy, amongst others, perhaps that was why Silverwood was showing off in front of his mates, it may explain some of his decisions.
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Thought Mr S had a decent game. Especially the Mullally/Gardner incident. He could easily have sent our man off. Thankfully he has no case to answer and Gardner is OK - well enough to be considered for selection this weekend.
Wardle's try is another point. I was convinced that he hadn't scored. Even the replays at the ground confirmed my decision. However, watching it on the SL Show, it clearly showed that Joe grounded the ball - albeit just. Well done Ian Smith.
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| Good win lastnight and great to do the double over saints! how times have changed.
the game should of been over by half time with the murphy try that got disallowed due to the supposed bad tackle form mullally when gardner fell over
think we were abit guilty of overplaying though and saints made a mini comeback but job well done.
Taai put two massive hits in!
very good atmosphere lastnight too, the best ive known it at the giants in a long long time, lets keep it up.
was there a drum at the back of the brittania stand? seemed to help and also the barmy army chant went on for a while and the whole stand started to get involved and really enjoyed it!
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| Quote ="Ivor C&G Scarf"But as you say, we have HKR on Friday. No point going all out when the game was won when we only have a 4 day turn around.
[I suspect that if it had been closer, Lunty would have returned to the field. How impressive is he this season? Thank you Baloo for standing your ground and not giving in to NB last season!'"
This is exactly what i said, why risk injuries or having needless energy losses just for the sake of scoring a couple more tries to make the score look good when we play again in 4 days ?.
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| Quote ="brearley84"Good win lastnight and great to do the double over saints!
how times have changed.
the game should of been over by half time with the murphy try that got disallowed due to the supposed bad tackle form mullally when gardner fell over
think we were abit guilty of overplaying though and saints made a mini comeback but job well done.
Taai put two massive hits in!
very good atmosphere lastnight too, the best ive known it at the giants in a long long time, lets keep it up.
was there a drum at the back of the brittania stand? seemed to help and also the barmy army chant went on for a while and the whole stand started to get involved and really enjoyed it!
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No drum, just hands on seats !!
Was impressed with that how everyone joined in and it kept building back up too, thought the BR stand was pretty good last night - a lot more joining in than usual.
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| Quote ="John_D"Saints look utterly clueless with ball in hand. That has to be a major concern. As such, Brough was the difference on the night. Invention, trickery, an intelligent kicking game - all the things Saints lacked.
It was a decent battle up front - I like the look of young Walmsley and I don't remember LMS taking a backward step - but thought Fartown edged that as well. It was Ukuma Ta'ai's best game in claret and gold by some distance, especially on defence. Brett Ferres is having a storming season and Wardle gets better every time I see him.
Hard work done in the first half, manage the scoreboard in the second. That seems to be the plan and it seems to be working.'"
did you not see taai at widnes and bradford then , was pretty much awesome in those two games too if not more so than lastnight for me.
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| Silverwood was very sympathetic to Saints last night. If anyone has the game recorded watch and listen to him, every set he was shouting to Giants players warning them (thereby slowing the line speed down, not a peep to Saints but did a couple of times have a word in the ear at breakdowns. Saints were very slow to clear the ruck often 4-5 seconds after calling the tackle complete, yet Robbo was pinged for holding on for what 1 second? If that was the standard Giants should have received another 20 penalties!!!!
Twice in the match he called zero tackle after Saints knocked on, only to not go back to the scrum, in the first half when Robbo kept it alive to Broughy whose offload to Grix was knocked on. Broughy queried that with Silverwood who then claimed his TJ said no saints knock on, " but you called zero tackle says Danny". second time late in the second half we forced a drop out, but a scrum on the Saints 10 is surely better.
I really do not think Silverwood should be allowed to Ref us after his behaviour saw him ejected from and then banned from the Stadium as a spectator.
As for the win, we did it in second gear, clearly put the cue on the rack early looking forward to Friday. If we were playing Sunday not Friday it would have been a similar score to first time we played them. Saints are a very ordinary side this year, and the Tinkerman looks familiarly confused.
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| Quote ="keefie"Totally agree with JOHND, apart from LMS, he got flattened by Eorl in the first half and really didn't know what day it was, but when he came back on in the second half he proved what a quality player he is.
Looked to me as though he had a point to prove.
I don't know why, but most of the Refs were sat in the Free seats, Ganson, Ben Filtham, Uncle Albert and Sharpy, amongst others, perhaps that was why Silverwood was showing off in front of his mates, it may explain some of his decisions.
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must of been 3 times he was right there to give the try or no try but he went to the video ref, used too much imo, he would of had to make a decision if it wasnt there! and he had the best view
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| Quote ="brearley84"the game should of been over by half time with the murphy try that got disallowed due to the supposed bad tackle form mullally when gardner fell over
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It was the correct decision, Mullally made contact with Gardner's head and it was therefore a high tackle. Thought the officials were pretty good to be honest.
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| Quote ="brearley84"the game should of been over by half time with the murphy try that got disallowed due to the supposed bad tackle form mullally when gardner fell over
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Silverwood had to give a penalty as contact had been made with the head. That's the top and bottom of it, and your player has not been charged with anything.
Meanwhile, unlike the claim above, Gardner has not been cleared to play. He is suffering from concussion and will be assessed over time.
Well done on your win. It's only taken you 60 years to do the double on us again but good things come to those who wait, yes?
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| The mullally/gardner incident was handled perfectly IMO. Glad it's no major damage to Ade as well. Nice to see both sets of fans stand to clap him all the way off too. Only in RL.
At the game I thought Silverwood let saint lay on a lot and loiter off side - and some if his holding penalties were hugely inconsistent. But he was probably equally bad
Our BIG problem was trying to score from every set when it went to 25-6, we tried to blow them away but without any patience or pressure and our errors let them back into the game
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| Quote ="brearley84"did you not see taai at widnes and bradford then , was pretty much awesome in those two games too if not more so than lastnight for me.'"
We only cover home games, so no
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| Still not convinced about Taai , 2 monster hits , but how many times did he lose the ball in the tackle ?Did he make a clean break ? Did he offload to put any one away ? At the end when the game was won , and Saints could be forgiven for not putting it all into the tackle , still couldn`t break through . Obviously he`s doing better than his first few games , but a way to go I fear
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| Quote ="camraman"Still not convinced about Taai , 2 monster hits , but how many times did he lose the ball in the tackle ?Did he make a clean break ? Did he offload to put any one away ? At the end when the game was won , and Saints could be forgiven for not putting it all into the tackle , still couldn`t break through . Obviously he`s doing better than his first few games , but a way to go I fear'"
This weeks topics for Ta'ai:
1. Playing the ball (not using the ball to help you stand)
2. Passing the ball (when not to attempt a pass)
3. Carrying the ball (when to secure the ball)
Last weeks were:
1. How to tackle
2. How to run in attack
3. How to almost score a try
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| One thing that niggled me last night was Cudjoes choices with ball in hand. He elected to try to dummy Meli when he could have laid it off to Jerry who would have drawn in Wellens and kicked into mid field as we used to do. He then seemed to give JErry the ball when there was nowhere for him to go.
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| I've wondered if Jerry and Leroy have had a falling out !! **
In the past Leroy would put him away at the earliest opportunity, the last few weeks he hasn't given him the ball even when there has been a chance for a clear run for Jerry.
**= jokingly, i weren't actually suggesting they had !
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| Jerry has put the ball down in good opportunities in the past...and maybe Leroy thinks length of the field tries are easy against everyone as they are v Leeds lol
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Silverwood had to give a penalty as contact had been made with the head. That's the top and bottom of it, and your player has not been charged with anything.
Meanwhile, unlike the claim above, Gardner has not been cleared to play. He is suffering from concussion and will be assessed over time.
Well done on your win. It's only taken you 60 years to do the double on us again but good things come to those who wait, yes?
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so what was mullally supposed to do in this situation when gardner was falling down going into the tackle?
wrong decision i think.
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| Quote ="camraman"Still not convinced about Taai , 2 monster hits , but how many times did he lose the ball in the tackle ?Did he make a clean break ? Did he offload to put any one away ? At the end when the game was won , and Saints could be forgiven for not putting it all into the tackle , still couldn`t break through . Obviously he`s doing better than his first few games , but a way to go I fear'"
not convinced about taai on his last 3 games for us? been pretty much a standout performer.
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| Quote ="Wadski"One thing that niggled me last night was Cudjoes choices with ball in hand. He elected to try to dummy Meli when he could have laid it off to Jerry who would have drawn in Wellens and kicked into mid field as we used to do. He then seemed to give JErry the ball when there was nowhere for him to go.'"
but just before that he tried a pass to jerry out the back and meli nearly intercepted...so maybe this time he thought he would go himself? if meli didnt get his hand in the way for the first pass jerry would of been in for a try and no one would of said anything.
makes me laugh we are getting all these little negative things about certain players when we have just done the double over saints and 2nd in the table
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| Quote ="brearley84"so what was mullally supposed to do in this situation when gardner was falling down going into the tackle?
wrong decision i think.'"
It doesn't matter though what Mullally was 'supposed' to do, or whether you think it was the right decision. Mullally made contact with the head = penalty. Simples
Agree with you about Taai though, very impressive on the tele!
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| Mullally no case to answer following the match review. He had every right to be tackling there and Gardner fell into the tackle.
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| 100% true
But any hit on the head is a penalty no matter what, so I've no problem with the pen. Shame because Broughs quick thinking and kick through was excellent
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| Think we switched off a little second half and encouraged them back into it, hard to say if due to short turnaround. Mind you shows how far we have come after being a little disappointed after beating Saints.
On a seperate note Taai is getting better with every game
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| I didn't think we switched off, what we were guilty of IMO was trying to score from every set of 6. We went off game plan in an attempt to build a big score when if we'd have stayed on plan the scores would have come
Ta'Ai is looking pretty damned good - but I wish he'd stop using the ball to stand up with. I thought it last week, he got penalised for it this week and he'll get done for it again
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| Quote ="Code13"I didn't think we switched off, what we were guilty of IMO was trying to score from every set of 6. We went off game plan in an attempt to build a big score when if we'd have stayed on plan the scores would have come
Ta'Ai is looking pretty damned good - but I wish he'd stop using the ball to stand up with. I thought it last week, he got penalised for it this week and he'll get done for it again'"
i agree we tried to keep scoring off every play at 18-0 up instead of building pressure again
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