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| Quote ="meast",if anything we were trying to hard at times to appease the moaners and boo brigade yesterday.'"
I don't think that this is true at all. I didn't really hear any moaning or booing yesterday in numbers, so the players certainly won't have. In fact, I thought the Giants fans really got behind the team all the way through, particularly when we got back into it.
The damage was done in the first half before anybody had chance to get on their backs with countless missed tackles, dropped balls and incomplete sets.
Either way, the team should be professional enough to accept criticism either on an individual or a team basis when they play unprofessionally. I don't buy into the whole 'I'm a true supporter so will never crticise anything they do' mentality.
I'm a true supporter cos I turn up week in week out, but I also dont like being taken for granted.
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| Quote ="GiantMisterE"I don't think that this is true at all. I didn't really hear any moaning or booing yesterday in numbers, so the players certainly won't have. In fact, I thought the Giants fans really got behind the team all the way through, particularly when we got back into it.
The damage was done in the first half before anybody had chance to get on their backs with countless missed tackles, dropped balls and incomplete sets.
Either way, the team should be professional enough to accept criticism either on an individual or a team basis when they play unprofessionally. I don't buy into the whole 'I'm a true supporter so will never crticise anything they do' mentality.
I'm a true supporter cos I turn up week in week out, but I also dont like being taken for granted.'"
i agree we got right behind the lads yesterday
first half we did too much defending and it cost us in the 2nd half... roll on April
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| the moaning and whinging began before the first try!
admittedly it wasn't a large section of supporters booing but there were a few!
we did get behind them for the most part,but we have a large proportions of negative fans who are quite happy to moan and whinge but yet stay in their seats when we score,whats that about?
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| Quote ="meast"the moaning and whinging began before the first try!
admittedly it wasn't a large section of supporters booing but there were a few!
we did get behind them for the most part,but we have a large proportions of negative fans who are quite happy to moan and whinge but yet stay in their seats when we score,whats that about?'"
Not having a go at you meast, but this post is contradictory to say the least. Either "it wasn't a large section" of fans moaning & most fans got behind the team or "large proportions of negative fans" who didn't. Can't have it both ways.
If people have taken time to attend a match & spend their money then they're entitled to their say if they are displeased with the performance. I mean what should fans do? Say"oh great, we've dropped the ball/missed a tackle/tried a stupidly ridiculous offload on our own 20 that hasn't come off yet AGAIN....isn't that great? Let's all sing a song....."?
Yes there are some miserable sods who wouldn't be pleased if we did the double. However, I feel that the fans were pretty generous towards the team in their support yesterday considering the absolute pile of shiyite they got back in return.
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| I didn't hear any booing from where we were sat (other than at the linesman who disallowed what appeared to be a legitimate score) but I did hear various people moaning yesterday - which IMO was perfectly understandable given the quality on offer.
I've been watching Huddersfield since I could only dream of seeing a team like this. I don't expect the side to be ripping up trees every week, but I do expect whoever is out on the field to perform with basic levels of competency. I wouldn't have thought this would put me in the minority.
If you don't do your job correctly you don't expect praise by those paying your wages, but the players rightly get chants of support and encouragement when things aren't going well. This is a two way process though, and if the players continue to make sloppy errors and poor decisions the fans are going to get frustrated. Like yesterday. And who can blame them?
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| Quote ="no fear"I didn't hear any booing from where we were sat (other than at the linesman who disallowed what appeared to be a legitimate score) but I did hear various people moaning yesterday - which IMO was perfectly understandable given the quality on offer.
I've been watching Huddersfield since I could only dream of seeing a team like this. =#FF0000I don't expect the side to be ripping up trees every week, but I do expect whoever is out on the field to perform with basic levels of competency. I wouldn't have thought this would put me in the minority.
If you don't do your job correctly you don't expect praise by those paying your wages, but the players rightly get chants of support and encouragement when things aren't going well. This is a two way process though, and if the players continue to make sloppy errors and poor decisions the fans are going to get frustrated. Like yesterday. And who can blame them?'"
I think that is the key. It easy to accept that the other team is better, it is easy to lose when you are outclassed or where someone plays a blinder. But it is not acceptable to be losing because players cannot catch pass or hold the ball.
Too many times this season Baloo keeps saying we dont respect possession ie we cannot catch. If they cannot catch get someone else in.
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| But yesterday we were outclassed, the other team played better than us. We did well to get back into the game but the damage was done in the 1st 20 when we had a mare and Salford gained confidence on the back of it which they never lost. We have to give them as much credit as we slaughter our own guys.
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"But yesterday we were outclassed, the other team played better than us. We did well to get back into the game but the damage was done in the 1st 20 when we had a mare and Salford gained confidence on the back of it which they never lost. We have to give them as much credit as we slaughter our own guys.'"
I can only go on what i heard on the radio and the comment from Peter Roe at al was that we seemed to struggle to get past the third tackle without dropping the ball.
In other games when we have dropped the ball and not respected possession that tends to be unenforced errorts. That is what puts us under pressure and gives other teams confidence.
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| I heard lots of individual complaints about players performance, but I didn't hear any co-ordinated booing of the team. The thing is we drop the ball too much and we give more penalties away than we gain. Normally we get away with this because our defence is awesome, against Salford we dropped off one too many tackles. Had Wardle nailed Gaskell or for that matter I think all Salford's tries came from a missed tackle, so if we had made just one of those we would have won. We need to learn from our mistakes and quick otherwise we are going to steadily slip down the table. Plus if we are having to do more defending than the other top teams sooner or later fatigue will set in and we will burn out and have little left in the tank come the end of the season. Sound familiar?
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| What has happened to our defence? We played this game just like the Wakefield game. For all the first half and most of the second, we didn't move up at Salford's 'play the ball'. We stood in a line and let them run at us. Unlike Salford, who gave us no space at all. Not helped by the ref giving Salford a skinny 10 and taking us back 12m. Yes he did. I was watching and shouting at him when he did. Don't think he could hear me tho. But we gave them too much time. Combined with dropped balls and numerous penalties, again, and we were lucky to only lose by one point. Hope we put it right by Monday.
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| Quote ="fartowneurochamps"I heard lots of individual complaints about players performance, but I didn't hear any co-ordinated booing of the team. '"
Lucky you. You probably didn't hear them screaming k***heads at them whilst waving their pints of beer in the air. Classy. a bloke two rows in front of me commented as to who came across as the biggest one- the guy putting his body on the line or the one filling it with beer- that raised a chuckle from a few. A shame he felt too intimidated to say it to them though.
I suspect a large amount of the bad language was for my benefit given that I'd asked them to stop swearing at Warrington the week before. I had my lad with me too this week. frankly I've had enough. But at least they weren't all chanting obscenities in unison this week. They won't listen so I'm not going to bother - ill just point them out to the stewards in future. They know me and I know them- some of them come on here, I really don't care what you think about me before the twitterati get going like last week. We dont need this sort of behaviour at our club and I'm pretty sure ken Davy would agree.
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| Quote ="jools"Lucky you. You probably didn't hear them screaming k***heads at them whilst waving their pints of beer in the air. Classy. a bloke two rows in front of me commented as to who came across as the biggest one- the guy putting his body on the line or the one filling it with beer- that raised a chuckle from a few. A shame he felt too intimidated to say it to them though.
I suspect a large amount of the bad language was for my benefit given that I'd asked them to stop swearing at Warrington the week before. I had my lad with me too this week. frankly I've had enough. But at least they weren't all chanting obscenities in unison this week. They won't listen so I'm not going to bother - ill just point them out to the stewards in future. They know me and I know them- some of them come on here, I really don't care what you think about me before the twitterati get going like last week. We dont need this sort of behaviour at our club and I'm pretty sure ken Davy would agree.'"
Everyone agrees I would think. That sort of ill-mannered nonsense is becoming too common now. I pulled a group of our fans for doing it just a couple of weeks back, again within the earshot of women & children. They did pack it in though. I wonder if it's the same lot?
Hope it didn't spoil your afternoon & upset your lad.
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| I would have sat somewhere else but seeing as we missed kick off due to the debacle at the stadium we were struggling to find two seats together.
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| I, too, was extremely cross with Friday's performance.
However, all around us people were moaning from the first minute. The team played crap, granted, but the moaners finished by saying we'd be bottom of the league at the end of the season, not Salford. EVERYONE's losing to the so-called weaker clubs, just ask Warrington. Be angry but get over it & move on! As the Leeds fans said when we beat them, SL isn't won at this stage of the season. It's won in September.
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| i wasn't meaning the booing was coordinated from a large section,i meant individiuals and small groups, there were lots around me who booed every time we dropped the ball or misplaced a pass etc.
yes we played poorly as ivor says and even though i was telling people not to get carried away it was to no avail,the negativity had set in and that how it continued for 80 minutes,fair enough to voice your displeasure at errors,they pay their money etc, but from the first minute?? everyone makes errors,every team has bad days every team plays poor at some point,you have to accept that from time to time,as i said it wasn't lack of effort on friday,we just played badly.the players didn't set out to be poor it just happened.to get on their backs early on though was poor IMO.
as for the swearing,some people were bad on friday and i was around a lot of them i got sick of telling them to tone it down.i know some of them had had a lot to drink and probably didn't realise they were doing it but it was out of order, yes most of us shout the odd profanity when things don't work out but there was no need for it on friday and it was embarrassing.
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| Problem is though that out of the what is it now,nine rounds?, Fartown have played badly in about 5 or 6 of them. They've won some games they really shouldn't have perhaps (Trinity springs to mind) and there doesn't really seem to be a weekly improvement from the side. It's the same mistakes over & over (dropped ball, missed tackles etc) that they don't seem to address & improve upon from game to game. So to be fair I don't really mind if fans voice their concerns if they want to, as long as it's not swearing & all that nasty stuff.
If the players want the fans to get behind them, then they should pull their collective finger out & start playing with some professional wherewithal.
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| and we are 3rd in the league!
im sure we will improve when it matters,at this stage of the season it doesn't matter really in the big scheme of things.
i would rather play badly in a few games at the start of the season that end up like we did last year!
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| Giants 1 - Banana skin 1
is that better for you boomer??
and 2nd in the league!
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| I'd say London and Wakey were potential banana skins too so i'd say
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| Quote ="PONNER"I'd say London and Wakey were potential banana skins too so i'd say
Giants 3 Banana skins 1'"
the topic headline needs editing!!
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| Giants 4 - banana skins 1
just where is boomer???????? is he still on the funny stuff after our last two wins, ok to come on here and moan and post loads of negative topics but at least give some credit after two wins
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| Quote ="brearley84"Giants 4 - banana skins 1
just where is boomer???????? is he still on the funny stuff after our last two wins, ok to come on here and moan and post loads of negative topics but at least give some credit after two wins'"
considering he comes from Portugal to watch home games he has the right to complain when the team do not turn up
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"considering he comes from Portugal to watch home games he has the right to complain when the team do not turn up'"
ofcourse and the right to give credit when its due too. instead of telling everyone they are on drugs.
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| Breirley, l never said anyone was on drugs, after my initial few blasts, most of my posts were very tongue in cheek, l give tons of praise to the Giants, and support them as much as possible,l was at the HGSA Tuesday, Senior Giants meeting on Wednesday, were any of you? l would imagine if the Giants swapped places with the Reds, most of you that come on here would be long gone, There,s nothing wrong with criticism so long as its constructive, l made valid points. We have had these discusions before everyone is entitled to their opinion, no need for anyone to get personell, (banter is ok) just post an opposing view, don,t take life too seriously, as for drugs, l,ve never even smoked a cig, chill out people.
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| Quote ="boomer"Breirley, l never said anyone was on drugs, after my initial few blasts, most of my posts were very tongue in cheek, l give tons of praise to the Giants, and support them as much as possible,l was at the HGSA Tuesday, Senior Giants meeting on Wednesday, were any of you? l would imagine if the Giants swapped places with the Reds, most of you that come on here would be long gone, There,s nothing wrong with criticism so long as its constructive, l made valid points. We have had these discusions before everyone is entitled to their opinion, no need for anyone to get personell, (banter is ok) just post an opposing view, don,t take life too seriously, as for drugs, l,ve never even smoked a cig, chill out people.'"
ah good to have you back! you did say people on here were on the funny stuff.
i have been there through the thick and thin too, ok to give the abuse but also good to give praise when we win thats all and i didnt see it from you on here after our latest two wins.
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