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| Quote ="hedgehog"What is with all this with sports clubs who believe they can spend what they want, go into administration and not pay off their debts.
I am not saying I want Bulls to go under but you know you have x supporters at £x per game times x games, plus sponsorship and TV money. That is how much you have to spend.
People never think about the people running well run businesses who have given them services and not been paid, thus putting their businesses in jepordy.'"
i agree
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| The killer was the bank pulling the overdraft for Bradford
No one saw it coming, nor could they have. Otherwise they run fine all season
Happened to a lot of other companies in the last few years
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| Quote ="Code13"The killer was the bank pulling the overdraft for Bradford
No one saw it coming, nor could they have. Otherwise they run fine all season
Happened to a lot of other companies in the last few years'"
Good point well put, much bigger and more profitable concerns have fallen foul of the banks and funny they are happy to be bailed out but do not care much if their customers go under or not.
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| Quote ="Code13"The killer was the bank pulling the overdraft for Bradford
No one saw it coming, nor could they have. Otherwise they run fine all season
Happened to a lot of other companies in the last few years'"
Errm..... It doesn't take a mastermind to work out that if you sell your biggest asset ( Odslum Crater) you have no collateral, therefore you are trading illegally.
The Bank had no other choice than to pull the plug.
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| I take it you've seen the details of the Bulls overdraft arrangements and terms of business then?
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The sale of the lease had nothing to do with the bank pulling the overdraft.
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| Quote ="Code13"I take it you've seen the details of the Bulls overdraft arrangements and terms of business then?
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The sale of the lease had nothing to do with the bank pulling the overdraft.'"
Maybe the bank saw Michael Platt play?
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| Quote ="Wadski"Maybe the bank saw Michael Platt play?'"
we were in for platt but he opted to sign for the bulls at the time
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| Dodged a bullet with Platt then, as for the Bulls sorry but I remember when all their glory hunters were slagging us off after the bottom of league finishes and merger, think the saying is what goes around comes around.
Won't be gloating to em but won't be losing any sleep either, get Fax in SL it's time we had a local derby for magic weekend!!
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| Quote ="Gi4nts"Dodged a bullet with Platt then, as for the Bulls sorry but I remember when all their glory hunters were slagging us off after the bottom of league finishes and merger, think the saying is what goes around comes around.
Won't be gloating to em but won't be losing any sleep either, get Fax in SL it's time we had a local derby for magic weekend!!'"
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| You'll get all your fans back if we go under wont you?
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs"You'll get all your fans back if we go under wont you?'"
Quality not Quantity down at the Galpharm
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs"You'll get all your fans back if we go under wont you?'"
why dont you change your username again?? you already looked a fool when it had 2010 on the end
maybe bulls4sale next?
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| Quote ="brearley84"why dont you change your username again?? you already looked a fool when it had 2010 on the end
maybe bulls4sale next?'"
Dont need to, its not out of date anymore.
Bulls4sale is a nice name though, I like that.
So how many do you expect back then, with you all being so brill and shizzle these days?
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| We're not finished yet. There is a strong rumour that SL are going to pull the plug on Sheffield and give us their money. Oh, hang on a minute.....
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| Quote ="rugbyreddog"We're not finished yet. There is a strong rumour that SL are going to pull the plug on Sheffield and give us their money. Oh, hang on a minute.....'"
Welcome to 1999.
The fuel is cheap, the housing market is booming and everyone is worried about the Millennium bug.
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| Quote ="Wadski"Welcome to 1999.
The fuel is cheap, the housing market is booming and everyone is worried about the Millennium bug.'"
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| now they have got rid of all the 16 coaching staff... head potter included
so this must mean... st hilaire and poss a few others that they knicked when we got relegated. basil richards too?
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| They're looking for unpaid people to take on the job.
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| Quote ="Ivor C&G Scarf"They're looking for unpaid people to take on the job.'"
big G's wife? mar G?
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"I know a lot of our fans - me included - will see this as comeuppance etc due to the crap we took off their fans during their glory years and how our little insignificant club will never be anywhere nearer to competing with the Bulls on and off the field etc, i wont say i'm reveling in it but i am quietly smiling to myself when i think of some of the comments on here and in person i've endured from that lot...............obviously some others will see this as a sad day for RL in general and how we all must save this great club ....which side are you on ?'"
Hey genius, how sad and empty is your existence that you gain some sort of odd pleasure from the situation?
I would not want any other team to be in such a position and was pleased last year that Wakefield got everything sorted out and were able to move forward.
Similarly, no matter what supporters of other clubs may have expressed regarding the team I follow, there is no circumstance in which I would be 'quietly smiling to myself' about another organization's possible demise. That includes Huddersfield, or even Leeds for that matter. Rugby League in this county is small enough as it is.
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| As sad as the glory hunting idiots from Huddersfield taunting Huddersfield fans, the glory hunting idiots from Halifax taunting the Halifax fans etc etc about how our clubs were laughable and an embarrasment and not fit to be on the same planet as their beloved Bulls.....sorry if you dont agree with my opinion but i have lots of personal reasons to not be bothered about the Bulls plight !!!!!
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| Those 'glory hunting idiots' have long since vanished, and I never asked or especially enjoyed their patronage of the team which I have supported for 30 years. There will always be bandwagon jumpers and I myself was fully aware that such 'fans' were in it for a little bit of reflected glory, even if they had no real ties or affinity to the professional Bradford RL team.
What the hell could I do as a supporter though? tell them to not show up or stop the Bulls' management from canvassing areas outside of the district in an effort to get people through the gate?. That had nothing to do with me and many like me, nor did the lack of class and grace show at times by the board and an element of the following.
An element of society will always profess their support to a winner. Just look at how many Leeds Rhinos stickers you see dotted about Kirklees. When the good days are over though it is always the true supporter who are left holding the bag.
Avoiding relegation by winning at Hull KR twenty years ago meant as much to me as winning any trophy, maybe more. Perhaps because it was more personal then as you felt that your support mattered more due to the lack of numbers when compared to the glory days of the Summer era. There was a feeling that if you did not make a trek to Cumbria or whatever the case, then your absence as a supporter would be missed. Whereas in the 'good times', there was plenty of carpet baggers ready to take your place on the terraces.
I presume that at the Giants you feel as though your support on an individual basis really matters. That is actually a good place for your Fandom to exist in. Believe me, when the dust settles all you want is your Rugby team back.
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"As sad as the glory hunting idiots from Huddersfield taunting Huddersfield fans, the glory hunting idiots from Halifax taunting the Halifax fans etc etc about how our clubs were laughable and an embarrasment and not fit to be on the same planet as their beloved Bulls.....sorry if you dont agree with my opinion but i have lots of personal reasons to not be bothered about the Bulls plight !!!!!'"
I disagree with Daz who maybe has different experiences than me.
My feeling is that anything that reflects badly on the game is bad for the image of RL and is therefore bad for the Giants.
Any RL team going to the wall is in my opinion a cause for regret
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| Giants are not immune to the financial crisis not just the UK but most of the world, I heard from a good source that there are to be cuts next season in the scholarships and youth set up next year, KD has already indicated that ST prices will need to return to a more normal rate next season.
That aside, like I have said in this thread and a few threads earlier this season when the Bulls were looking to raise the £500k this is a sad situation and I don't want them to go under, SL and West Yorkshire as a region would be worst off.
What next lets see Cas, Leeds and Wakey go too, so we can in it alone, what's the point??
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| this situation is bad for the sport, this could be a chain reaction for events in the future and we may not even have a club to support in 10 years, they may not even be a super league semi proffesional for our top league. the money situation expands waaay out of our sport and this depression we are in could last for a while
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