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| Quote ="meast"we won the league 2 years ago just like leeds did last night, or does it only mean something when leeds win it?'"
Were you on for a treble 2 years ago? No. So it is not in any way at all similar.
As I said before, if we don't win at Old Trafford, last night will mean nothing.
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| Quote ="meast"enjoy your celebrations
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We are, and in 2 years time we won't be bi*ching about the RL community not giving us more credit for what we've done this year.
Shame that your one single bit of success in recent times (the 2013 LLS) is filled with such bitterness that other clubs didn't praise you as much as you'd like.
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| Quote ="meast"enjoy your celebrations
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He did meast. Rumour has it that he went crazy and smashed a pint glass.
"Pint glasses aren't allowed in the Johns smith stadium" I hear you say.
Correct. This gobe who has plenty to say is a real fan and watched it at a mates house!
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"We are, and in 2 years time we won't be bi*ching about the RL community not giving us more credit for what we've done this year.
Shame that your one single bit of success in recent times (the 2013 LLS) is filled with such bitterness that other clubs didn't praise you as much as you'd like.'"
I actually feel sorry for you. Instead of enjoying your win, you're instead feeling the need to try, and fail, to belittle other clubs. It's very sad, really. I give you my sympathies that you can't enjoy the achievements of your club and recommend some counselling.
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| Quote ="Unbeliever"I actually feel sorry for you. Instead of enjoying your win, you're instead feeling the need to try, and fail, to belittle other clubs. It's very sad, really. I give you my sympathies that you can't enjoy the achievements of your club and recommend some counselling.'"
You do realise the Hudds supporter is sulking because of Hudds triumph TWO years ago not getting the same recognition.
We won 24 hours ago, I have (and still am enjoying it).....pointing out to the team we faced 24 hours ago why our LLS is different from theirs when he was the one who brought up the subject of significance, well it's clear you lot our TRYING to downplay another teams success.....YOU'RE FAILING.....we are LLS winners in a much tougher format, we are enjoying it. Their isn't an asterisk next to our win that says "only because Wigan threw it away"
You're sat there trying to convince yourself that you've claimed a "win" by somehow lessening Leeds' success last night......that you and one or two others have made an effort to try and downplay it has actually only made the win SWEETER as it's shown its rattled you.
You've turned a good success, into a great success....well done
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| Don't respond to pathetic trolls! Our team has proven we are capable of talking on the field! Ignore them, get to the game on Thursday and cheer them right to Old Trafford (where hopefully we will get a game against Leeds)! COYG
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"You do realise the Hudds supporter is sulking because of Hudds triumph TWO years ago not getting the same recognition.
We won 24 hours ago, I have (and still am enjoying it).....pointing out to the team we faced 24 hours ago why our LLS is different from theirs when he was the one who brought up the subject of significance, well it's clear you lot our TRYING to downplay another teams success.....YOU'RE FAILING.....we are LLS winners in a much tougher format, we are enjoying it. Their isn't an asterisk next to our win that says "only because Wigan threw it away"
You're sat there trying to convince yourself that you've claimed a "win" by somehow lessening Leeds' success last night......that you and one or two others have made an effort to try and downplay it has actually only made the win SWEETER as it's shown its rattled you.
You've turned a good success, into a great success....well done
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no, im sarcastically suggesting that Leeds fans shouldn't be celebrating something that they have refused to acknowledge as having any worth.
of course its different when Leeds win it, we always said it would be.
but i will always maintain that winning it in 2013 was a massive achievement for our club, obviously now we want the bigger prize but it was still a huge achievement for a poky little club with no fans!
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"You do realise the Hudds supporter is sulking because of Hudds triumph TWO years ago not getting the same recognition.
We won 24 hours ago, I have (and still am enjoying it).....pointing out to the team we faced 24 hours ago why our LLS is different from theirs when he was the one who brought up the subject of significance, well it's clear you lot our TRYING to downplay another teams success.....YOU'RE FAILING.....we are LLS winners in a much tougher format, we are enjoying it. Their isn't an asterisk next to our win that says "only because Wigan threw it away"
You're sat there trying to convince yourself that you've claimed a "win" by somehow lessening Leeds' success last night......that you and one or two others have made an effort to try and downplay it has actually only made the win SWEETER as it's shown its rattled you.
You've turned a good success, into a great success....well done
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Ok arm chair supporter. Nice one.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Its significance is different now because the league format is different.....you're doing a good job of making yourself look stupid by pretending the circumstances were the same.'"
the new system is better as winning the league is a massive advantage compared to the old system, I enjoyed watching us win the minor premiership, but most fans know that a couple of teams do rest players ready for play off footy, will it say that on the record sheet?...no, it will say we won it fair and square and to me that's all that matters
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| If you don't back up the LLS with a Grand Final win, it means nothing. And I will stand by that come 10th October.
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| We rested players for that last game
Does that mean we can say it wasn't important
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| Quote ="ThePrinter""Something sensible".....coming from a guy who referenced Hudds winning 4 in a season which was around 100 years ago? We're talking modern day, and all you lot are doing are kidding yourselves if you think the big boys always threw all their weight into the regular seasons and didn't pace themselves to be peak form come playoff time.
The big three's good playoffs records compared to Hudds constant disappointing playoff record shows this perfectly.'"
This is a pointless discussion. Rugby league started when it started, not when Leeds started to win things. That said if the Giants can't win the GF I would love Leeds to win , being the only other Yorkshire side. To win the treble would be something to really celebrate, there is a difference though between celebrating and gloating.
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| Quote ="tony1983"If you don't back up the LLS with a Grand Final win, it means nothing. And I will stand by that come 10th October.'"
it will always mean something to me, regardless of if what else, if anything else we win.
it's like your first born child, you might have 4 kids but your first is always something you remember fondly
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| Cant understand why you enter into dialogue with descendants of Dumbo !
.....and I was as gutted as any fan bout the result.
But more about the circumstances that led to it
Bottom line is :-
1 We forget that games last more than 75 mins - theyre 80 plus stoppages
2 We more than often cannot stamp our authority on games when we get in front -if we`d done that at Wigan we wouldnt have been having a discussion such as this
OK leeds went off the boil after the Cup Final and lost 3 games on the trot
It didnt matter a fig as they won the one that mattered - and more important to me we lost it !
8 points in front with 8 mins to go and they score 12 -think about it !
Refs -dont get me started ! But they`re what were faced with. Full time -and the standard is ****
The number of times Ive heard Mr Cummins say "I think he`s got that wrong" on Sky is frankly becoming boring but thats a separate never ending topic Against the recognised glamour clubs we HAVE to build leads that they cannot do anything about (ie the Warrington match) We were merciless -and thats how its got to be Cas did it against Leeds - but they also have a similar affliction!
Its hard reading I know and hurts
We won the LLS - but as yet we havent pushed on -and are still a "Nearly but not quite" team / club which for Ken must give him sleepless nights and even more grey hairs (or hes the patience of a saint )
Fortunately we are still IN the semi We proved in the past that in semis we often rise to the occasion
(Leeds at Odsal --Saints at Warrington ) So lets hope we do again - and carry the job through
We need to stamp it home that last Fridays history -and gone. Forget about it ! S--t happens - and theres two 80plus mins to sweat blood for glory Ken has done his bit and still is doing !The fans can do theirs and then its down to PA team selection and motivation We have the ability - just prove we can stay with the pace and PROVE weve stepped up to the mark and arent a "nearly team " any longer !
Its all down to us !
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| and plenty of time cummings gets in wrong! and that's with slow mo replays. the guys a buffoon
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| Quote ="tad rhino"and plenty of time cummings gets in wrong! and that's with slow mo replays. the guys a buffoon'"
Granted both set of supporters have differing views of some calls during the game. But when Robinson dived over when Hall threw Hardaker a shocker of a pass on our try line......I think we can all clearly see Robinson knocked on and no try was the correct decision.
However after watching 2/3 replays Cummings was adamant that Robinson's hands never touched the ball.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"and plenty of time cummings gets in wrong! and that's with slow mo replays. the guys a buffoon'"
...............and what we get are gamson prodegies that could win mastermind!!!
still - if you are happy with the standard of full time "professional" refereeing thats ONE satisfied customerll:
BUT as I said --thats another topic !!!
ps dont remember disputing robbos "notry" so can only assume youre just on here for
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| Quote ="Crackerjack"
ps dont remember disputing robbos "notry" so can only assume youre just on here for
an argument and not constructive debate.'"
P.S. I don't recall replying to you or claiming that people were disputing Robinson's try.
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| Quote ="Crackerjack"...............and what we get are gamson prodegies that could win mastermind!!!
still - if you are happy with the standard of full time "professional" refereeing thats ONE satisfied customerll:
BUT as I said --thats another topic !!!
ps dont remember disputing robbos "notry" so can only assume youre just on here for
an argument and not constructive debate.'"
You weren't but Cummings was! He sounded positively distraught. Anyone would think he wanted Wigan to win the LLS or something!
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| wouldnt know -I was at the game!
but maybe he did ! They all have their favourites!!
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| Quote ="Crackerjack"Cant understand why you enter into dialogue with descendants of Dumbo !
.....and I was as gutted as any fan bout the result.
But more about the circumstances that led to it
Bottom line is :-
1 We forget that games last more than 75 mins - theyre 80 plus stoppages
2 We more than often cannot stamp our authority on games when we get in front -if we`d done that at Wigan we wouldnt have been having a discussion such as this
OK leeds went off the boil after the Cup Final and lost 3 games on the trot
It didnt matter a fig as they won the one that mattered - and more important to me we lost it !
8 points in front with 8 mins to go and they score 12 -think about it !
Refs -dont get me started ! But they`re what were faced with. Full time -and the standard is ****
The number of times Ive heard Mr Cummins say "I think he`s got that wrong" on Sky is frankly becoming boring but thats a separate never ending topic Against the recognised glamour clubs we HAVE to build leads that they cannot do anything about (ie the Warrington match) We were merciless -and thats how its got to be Cas did it against Leeds - but they also have a similar affliction!
Its hard reading I know and hurts
We won the LLS - but as yet we havent pushed on -and are still a "Nearly but not quite" team / club which for Ken must give him sleepless nights and even more grey hairs (or hes the patience of a saint )
Fortunately we are still IN the semi We proved in the past that in semis we often rise to the occasion
(Leeds at Odsal --Saints at Warrington ) So lets hope we do again - and carry the job through
We need to stamp it home that last Fridays history -and gone. Forget about it ! S--t happens - and theres two 80plus mins to sweat blood for glory Ken has done his bit and still is doing !The fans can do theirs and then its down to PA team selection and motivation We have the ability - just prove we can stay with the pace and PROVE weve stepped up to the mark and arent a "nearly team " any longer !
Its all down to us !'"
Quote ="Crackerjack"....and I was as gutted as any fan bout the result. '"
Ahhhhhhhh!!!! Common sense says don't call others out on spelling when you can't spell!
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| Putting all the bickering to one side - I thought it was a game worthy of a semi-final, or even a final. Massive defensive effort, some good play with the ball in hand and mental toughness on display from both sides. Despite losing I think that Huddersfield team have shed the 'chokers' tag. I didn't see them choke; they got the wrong bounce of the ball in the last play of the game.
My concern for both teams is that game will have taken a lot out of them; what will they have left in the tank? The happiest team after that game will be Wigan. I hope one of Hudds or Leeds go on and win it.
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| spot n BG
it will be debated for a while, about who should have done what etc but we didn't deserve to lose that game.
our big test is thursday now, we have to be 100% focused and i think we will be.
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| Away from this forum of recriminations and bickering the tone has gone from
Can the Giants win the final = no
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Can the Giants win the final = yes
If that's not a turning point of massive proportions I don't know what is
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| Winning the LLS IS significant and it was when the Giants won it. IMO it has been given too little profile, which the new format seems to address to a small extent. It signifies that the team that wins it has been the most consistent through the hard graft of the regular season, which deserves significant recognition. But under the current system, the competition builds from there via the 8's and then the Semis to the Grand final and the GF will always be seen as the most important achievement. Friday nights game was a cracker worthy of a final and maybe if you guys can do the business on Thursday and we can on Friday we can have another go at OT. Good Luck for your Semi-final
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