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| I had that theory when I was rejected by the Giants !
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| Quote ="BOYD2"Ginger ,there is the cost of the trial the Barristers the insurance pollicy Masons team will have put in place in case they lost.'"
I see.
The Examiner is claiming £160k plus legal fees, totalling £167k.
Will see what they say in the full story tomorrow.
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| Boydy, The ATE policy will cover all that except the cost of Keith's policy. That will have to come out of Keith's award as Keith's out of court expenses won't be covered, that's his policy and owed by him. The benefit of a policy is someone checks over the costs so paying Joe to carry Keith's bag won't be covered and everything will be checked.
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| Listen mate KM was awarded 167 which will increase when his legal cost and expences are callculated in so he his looking at about 200, then the barristers will have to be paid plus the insurace plus the cost of the trial and that will bing the cost to about 300 and unfortunatly the Giants will have to foot that bill happy days for KM.
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| Quote ="roger daly"Nicely deflected,turn it round onto Wakie and pretend it hasn't happened'"
Sorry have i gone about this all wrong? should I have gone on their board and had a dig? Wasnt quite sure of the protocol
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| And not only that Mr T and the giants will be in more trouble when they have to answer to the RFLfor the lies that was told to them in a previous hearing.
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| oh dear, Huddersfield are a small club stuck in SL.....well done Keith.
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| Quote ="Ginger_Giant"I see.
The Examiner is claiming £160k plus legal fees, totalling £167k.
Will see what they say in the full story tomorrow.'"
There is £35 k court costs ie the time of the judge etc etc
The costs of the legal teams will probably be borne by the losing party i would guess that both teams had a minimum of a barrister plus a junior and a solicitor in attendance. They would have been paid by the parties at the private rate that would be a minimum of £2k a day for the barristers ( anyone half decent would have been charging £5k a day).
that for two days doubled adds up.
The legal advice and conferences held before the trial would also have been at the same rate. I would be amazed if the legal fees were less than £50 k
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| Durham trust me when i tell you the Giants will be looking at a final payment of nearly 300k.
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| The Judge was definitely a Leeds fan fed up of the kickings.
We need an extra 10000 fans to turn up to pay the ridiculous payout.
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| The club statement from Ken Davy was very good and laid out the standards that the club expects, and I applaud him for his stance.
The Judge in the case was very soft and too liberal, although I liked Mason, he let the club down.
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| I disagree. Past players have been found guilty in court of criminal acts and not been sacked. A photo of a backside is so trivial it it brought about a whopping 4 complaints (some of which may have been suspect, according to the court report). This just smacks of trying to take the moral high ground to detract from what appears to be bad management.
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| A question to ponder. Do people not think that the decision to sack and then oppose Mason's claims were taken at board level? ["Mr Mason appealed his sacking but club vice-chairman Dr Paul Morgan dismissed it."
[It is purely a question and not intended to ask for the abuse and bile of recent times!
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| Really not sure how people manage to see some justification for the clubs actions in this. It has been proven in court that KM was treated very badly indeed. The sacking was out of context with punishments for other players misdemeanours, he is entitled to his compensation.
The club was wrong, KM was right, I for one have no issue with him over that and I suggest that in his position many of us would also have pursued a claim.
Embarrassing for the club, though not related it is not going to help perceptions in the Town re the stadium shares and all told another blunder in showing the club in the correct light to attract new fans.
Ken Davy has done great things for the club, things we should all be grateful for, but on this and in respect of his official statement he is wrong. Ask yourselves this question, would we have taken the same action against say Leroy, Eorl or Danny Brough? The court said not and I am inclined to agree, that is why KM won the case.
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| Quote ="GiantDee"Really not sure how people manage to see some justification for the clubs actions in this. It has been proven in court that KM was treated very badly indeed. The sacking was out of context with punishments for other players misdemeanours, he is entitled to his compensation.
The club was wrong, KM was right, I for one have no issue with him over that and I suggest that in his position many of us would also have pursued a claim.
Embarrassing for the club, though not related it is not going to help perceptions in the Town re the stadium shares and all told another blunder in showing the club in the correct light to attract new fans.
Ken Davy has done great things for the club, things we should all be grateful for, but on this and in respect of his official statement he is wrong. Ask yourselves this question, would we have taken the same action against say Leroy, Eorl or Danny Brough? The court said not and I am inclined to agree, that is why KM won the case.'"
I agree with all of that
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| Perhaps not- but what has leroys, Danny's and eorls behaviour been like throughout their time at our club? It's not the first time that mason has behaved badly. Mason has to take some critisism for his behaviour whilst at our club and the club needs to take critisism for dealing with it incorrectly. Thewlis should go IMO - but he won't.
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| Quote ="Giantscorpio"The club statement from Ken Davy was very good and laid out the standards that the club expects, and I applaud him for his stance.
The Judge in the case was very soft and too liberal, although I liked Mason, he let the club down.'"
!/ was having a picture of a team mate mooning gross misconduct ?
2/ if so was it worse than being drunk and assaulting a woman.?
because number 2 gets you sacked at the Giants but number 2 does not .
if no 2 is worse then there must be other reasons why Mason got sacked and i think it was reasonable to assume that it was a sneaky way to get around team roster issues. The judge agrees apparently
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| re 2) clearly not (see RfL previous judgement on ganson)
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| According to the Zaminer legal fees could be £200,000.
That could be a total of £367,000 in total!!!!!!
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| Davy's statement is absolute bobbins. "We stood up for what we believe is right, regardless of the fact that it was illegal". Sorry Ken, but no.
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| Quote ="Giantscorpio"The club statement from Ken Davy was very good and laid out the standards that the club expects, and I applaud him for his stance.
The Judge in the case was very soft and too liberal, although I liked Mason, he let the club down.'"
The statement is all well and good, The problem is it will be easy for many to argue double standards. It appears from the court case that the giants approached kopzcak in August, Omar khan is now demanding this be reinvestigated by the RfL, in the past we have employed players who have used PEDs and our players have been involved in court cases for assault etc. so we cannot pretend to be squeaky clean.
The whole business has already cost us 20k will cost us at least another 167k maybe 200k in costs and if the bulls have their way could cost us a heck of a lot more. To afford this will we have to lose players and what does that bode for next season. Thewlis has made a right clock up of the whole thing. The firsts mistake was putting an average player on a 95k a year contract!
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| Quote ="jools"The statement is all well and good, The problem is it will be easy for many to argue double standards. It appears from the court case that the giants approached kopzcak in August, Omar khan is now demanding this be reinvestigated by the RfL, in the past we have employed players who have used PEDs and our players have been involved in court cases for assault etc. so we cannot pretend to be squeaky clean.
The whole business has already cost us 20k will cost us at least another 167k maybe 200k in costs and if the bulls have their way could cost us a heck of a lot more. To afford this will we have to lose players and what does that bode for next season. Thewlis has made a right clock up of the whole thing. =#FF0000The firsts mistake was putting an average player on a 95k a year contract!'"
Although Thewlis agreed the salary it was Nathan Brown who would have wanted it as he saw Mason as being the cornerstone of the pack. Loads of comments from NB about how good Mason was.
Something else that brings NBs coaching reputation into disrepute IMHO.
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| Quote ="M@islebugs"www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/10554871.Bradford_Bulls__Kopczak_transfer_back_in_the_spotlight/
Thewlis and Kopczak effectively accused of dishonesty in an RFL investigation.'"
This could form an interesting conversation between the RFL and the Giants. I wonder which version of the truth is correct.
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| Whatever happens someone has been lied to. Including us fans. Personally I'm not a happy bunny.
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