Crowds have been significantly down for them this season, which is a bit of a mystery to me as they've been going well.

It doesn't bode all that well for them this IMO and certainly doesn't help them in the stadium side of things.

Care to elaborate any further??

Don't think crowd size will have anything to do with it! We have a site in place, a builder is place, have already sold our ground etc etc.

If you have already sold your ground recently I would be extremely concerned. Selling property in a recession is bad idea unless you are being forced to by the bank.

Dwindling crowds despite decent on pitch performances certainly doesn't bode well when you want to convince the relevant people that this stadium is a worthwhile venture. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out...

nope, sold in 2007 l think. (at the peak!)

Planning permission yet?

That is the point though, isn't??

The relevant people are already convinced! (so they tell us)

on what??

The proposed new ground or belle vue??

Why would you need planning permission for belle vue

We wouldn't and don't......but the new owners might/would!

Unless the money was handed over in 2007 and you now rent the stadium that will not have happened.

The next question would be where that money went as it should have been declared as operating profit and therefore taxed as such.

so what did happen with the naming rights project?

How many STs did you sell?

How much are gates down since last year ( despite several wins)?

You got £1.7M up front for the stadium at the end of 07 but have only 0.5M left. Where has the rest of the £ gone.?

You have a (greenfield)site with no planning permission a developer but no apparent funding.

Rumours - nothing more or less - are that players are available for release.

And now out of the blue a sale of shares! Not for investment in facilities or long term development but for ongoing player costs. for this season or next season..who knows?

Trin looking to raise £100K from a quick share sale. I wonder where the £100K figure for Brough came from..............

Don't know

Not Sure

Don't know

Apparently funding is in place

You have answered your own question, just rumours

Not sure if that is a question

Not Sure

From what I have read the stadium is still years away. I certainly don't believe all the bluster, especially given previous blusterings!

In the meantime crowds are down, big rumours of Wakey being potless etc. Not exactly an avalanche of good noises.

Sad to know so little about your own club. However they treat you like mushrooms re stadium naming / STs etc.

Not seen a singe article saying the cost of the stadium and how it wil be paid for. Have you/ (or are you in the dark..again?)

Give the guy a bit of slack MG. I don't know the ins and outs of our club and why should I?

Do we have £100,000 to spend on a player? etc - I can not answer.

Yes, if the stadium does happen it is years away, but that is no different to Cas, Salford, Saints, Bradford

Cant really comment on rumours.....what do you want me to say?? Suppose all l can say is non of the players so far have said anything.......would you not say that is a good sign??......you would expect the players or the agents to go public if they believed there was any truth in the rumours.

Cheers for that, think you have your answer Marsdengiant!

The bit im struggling with (not hard i know) is why would you sell your stadium in 2007 with no new stadium in the pipeline back then, looks to me like your in the proverbial big time.

I wonder if they've been stung by the image rights tax loophole closure?

Back in 2007??

no the recent closure. Hence the need to raise some cash but selling a player or share issue. It looks like it is cash you require rather than salary cap space / player.

Yes, that's what it seems like to me. Cashflow problems, possibly due (at least in part) to reduced crowd levels from their projections.

Either way, what will be will be.

Just to add in some Wakey attendance stats here:

Average YTD is 5,772. Average for 2008 was 6,962. Down 17%

Average compared to the like for like fixtures from last season is down 19% and on a round to round basis is down 24%

Wakeys highest attendance of the season so far (6,57icon_cool.gif is only 222 more than our lowest of the season so far (6,356).

Now, assuming that the crowd average stays the same that equates to 15,470 speccies less for Wakey this season. At an average of say £10 a pop, well, you're talking about £150k.

The people of Wakefield need to have a look at themselves.
Their team are doing them proud and deserve better support than that.