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| Quote ="Ivor C&G Scarf"We got rid of a good player without replacing him.
Get over it man.'"
Sorry Ivor, but I have got to dissagree, we got rid of a player who was average and didnt replace him, but thats no fault of our own, since he was actually replaced which is why he went.
Chris was a good player, with loads of potential, but for whatever reason didnt get there.
On Friday I would say I would still have had Brown than Throrman. Thorman looked slow and ponderous both in passing and running, and was no real threat to us, where as Brown, some poor passing aside lookes dangerous every time he attacks the line.
To take a leaf from your book, Thormans gone, get over it man.
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| Did the whole Carney episode pass you by?
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| Quote ="pmarrow"No offence but apart from Brett Hodgson your backline is very poor.'"
Really? Two international wingers, an international centre, a young british centre and two young British half backs. They didn't have the best of times on Friday night but 'very poor' is stretching it a bit.
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| Quote ="Code13"Sorry Ivor, but I have got to dissagree, we got rid of a player who was average and didnt replace him, but thats no fault of our own, since he was actually replaced which is why he went.
Chris was a good player, with loads of potential, but for whatever reason didnt get there.
On Friday I would say I would still have had Brown than Throrman. Thorman looked slow and ponderous both in passing and running, and was no real threat to us, where as Brown, some poor passing aside lookes dangerous every time he attacks the line.
To take a leaf from your book, Thormans gone, get over it man.'" totally agree,but thorman did kick us to death on friday(good kicking game thats all)
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| Quote ="Code13"Sorry Ivor, but I have got to dissagree, we got rid of a player who was average and didnt replace him, but thats no fault of our own, since he was actually replaced which is why he went.
Chris was a good player, with loads of potential, but for whatever reason didnt get there.
On Friday I would say I would still have had Brown than Throrman. Thorman looked slow and ponderous both in passing and running, and was no real threat to us, where as Brown, some poor passing aside lookes dangerous every time he attacks the line.
To take a leaf from your book, Thormans gone, get over it man.'"
How can you comapare two players than where playing in different positions and roles, Thorman has been brought to Hull to play an organising role which he is doing very well.
I have also watched the game 3 times now and have still to see Brown do anything of note, he didnt break the line once and never looked like doing so.
You should have kept Thorman and looked to offload Robinson.
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| Quote ="Danril"Did the whole Carney episode pass you by?'"
Reading the RL papers today, it's looks like you had a lucky escape with Carney.
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Quote ="Dave K."Reading the RL papers today, it's looks like you had a lucky escape with Carney.'"
www.theaustralian.news.com.au/st ... 31,00.html
The question is: Would he have been outside a Goulburn nightclub on Saturday night if he was playing for us?
The answer is: No!
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The question is: Would he have been outside a Goulburn nightclub on Saturday night if he was playing for us?
The answer is: No!
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| Quote ="meast"who despite being far superior in every department, hull could only just scrape a 4 point win over i'll settle for that
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Wouldn't say scrape, we was always in control.
don't matter if you win by 1 point or 60, a win is a win.
Thank you.
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| Quote ="Code13"Sorry Ivor, but I have got to dissagree, we got rid of a player who was average and didnt replace him, but thats no fault of our own, since he was actually replaced which is why he went.
Chris was a good player, with loads of potential, but for whatever reason didnt get there.
On Friday I would say I would still have had Brown than Throrman. Thorman looked slow and ponderous both in passing and running, and was no real threat to us, where as Brown, some poor passing aside lookes dangerous every time he attacks the line.
To take a leaf from your book, Thormans gone, get over it man.'"
Oh dear.
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| Quote ="digger"Really? Two international wingers, an international centre, a young british centre and two young British half backs. They didn't have the best of times on Friday night but 'very poor' is stretching it a bit.'"
Believe what you will, IMO your backline isn't nothing to shout about.
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| Quote ="pmarrow"Oh dear.'"
Why
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Thorman cant run, cant tackle, cant pass, and if he does its to the opposition wingers, he can kick very well though, sometimes.
Brown, can run, can tackle, occaisionally passes well, but cant kick too well, he can also break a tackle and go through a gap, something Thorman hasnt done in the 2 years previous.
Given that Brown was behind a beaten pack on friday, and Thorman was behind a winning pack, Brown looked better imo.
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| Quote :3bgprd97Code13 wrote
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:3bgprd97Thorman cant run, cant tackle, cant pass, and if he does its to the opposition wingers, he can kick very well though, sometimes.:3bgprd97
Brown, can run, can tackle, occaisionally passes well, but cant kick too well, he can also break a tackle and go through a gap, something Thorman hasnt done in the 2 years previous.
Given that Brown was behind a beaten pack on friday, and Thorman was behind a winning pack, Brown looked better imo.'"
You may not like Thorman but making statements like that undermine your case.
If Friday was anything to go by Brett Hodgson cannot tackle, does not know when to pass the ball or keep it and cannot kick goals would it be ok to get rid of him.
Thorman is a good passer and his tackling was Ok. he won us more games than he lost for us and there are not that many players we can say that about. he set up two tries for Hull so he must have done something right. thorman had strengths and weaknesses as do most players. What is important is how the indavidual players come together to make a team.
Hulls half backs had more balance and complementing skills than did ours..
i was going to stop joining in this debate about Thorman but if everyone else keeps slagging him off unfairly i may have to break that promise.
I wish we had kept Thorman for another season and given Brown time to pick , choose and mould his own players. We will see how well Brown and Robbo are at the end of ths season.
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| DG, given events, I wish we had kept Thorman another season, but as it stood, he wasnt needed.
And after Fridays game, he cant run, tackle or break a tackle
But you are right, I was alarmed by how easily B. Hodgson was brushed aside by Horne.
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| Quote ="Code13"Why
I would.
Thorman cant run, cant tackle, cant pass, and if he does its to the opposition wingers, he can kick very well though, sometimes.
Brown, can run, can tackle, occaisionally passes well, but cant kick too well, he can also break a tackle and go through a gap, something Thorman hasnt done in the 2 years previous.
Given that Brown was behind a beaten pack on friday, and Thorman was behind a winning pack, Brown looked better imo.'"
That is taking being biased to a whole new level.
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| Quote ="Code13"DG, given events, I wish we had kept Thorman another season, but as it stood, he wasnt needed.
And after Fridays game, he cant run, tackle or break a tackle
But you are right, I was alarmed by how easily B. Hodgson was brushed aside by Horne.'"
However he can organise, start the plays and contribute with his kicking game. Something Huddersfield seriousley lacked.
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| Still managed to score 4 tries.
What we were lacking was someone who could pass and catch a ball.
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| Quote ="Cory69"the better team won on the night, would be a good game for the neutrals not me though i have no finger nails left
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Picture now outdated m8. Cas now 3rd!!!
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| Quote ="Code13"Still managed to score 4 tries.
What we were lacking was someone who could pass and catch a ball.'"
We gave you two of the tries.
We'll soon see what happens of it, but Brown and Robinson will lead you to nowhere in my opinion.
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| Quote ="Ivor C&G Scarf"Without naming all the individuals who were awful, DG's piece says it all for me.
How many people prefer =redBrown and/or Robinson to Thorman now? He outplayed the both of them put together.
The only players to come out with any credit for me are Mason, Raleigh, and Lolesi with possibly Moore as well.'"
ME ME ME, all Thorman did was stood and passed the ball to Horne who was outstanding, He put a good kick in which resulted in a try, but at one point there was a gap as big as Humber and he was too slow to get thru it, sums it up for me.
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You may not like Thorman but making statements like that undermine your case.
If Friday was anything to go by Brett Hodgson cannot tackle, does not know when to pass the ball or keep it and cannot kick goals would it be ok to get rid of him.
Thorman is a good passer and his tackling was Ok. he won us more games than he lost for us and there are not that many players we can say that about. he set up two tries for Hull so he must have done something right. thorman had strengths and weaknesses as do most players. What is important is how the indavidual players come together to make a team.
Hulls half backs had more balance and complementing skills than did ours..
i was going to stop joining in this debate about Thorman but if everyone else keeps slagging him off unfairly i may have to break that promise.
I wish we had kept Thorman for another season and given Brown time to pick , choose and mould his own players. We will see how well Brown and Robbo are at the end of ths season.'"
I think that is a fair assesment of the situation. Thorman has a very good Rugby brain and you can see him and Berrigan leading the players around the field which is why Hull suddenly look like we have some direction in our play.
I agree that what he lacks in his average defence and speed that he makes up for in his tactical kicking (with Berrigan and Horne as well, were now very good in that dept.), passing and leadership. Good signing for us I think.
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| Quote ="FLYINGPROP"ME ME ME, all Thorman did was stood and passed the ball to Horne who was outstanding, He put a good kick in which resulted in a try, but at one point there was a gap as big as Humber and he was too slow to get thru it, sums it up for me.
Thorman 30+ Good football brain, too slow now'"
Horne wouldn't have being able to be half as good as he has being so far this season without Thorman playing.
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| Quote ="pmarrow"Horne wouldn't have being able to be half as good as he has being so far this season without Thorman playing.'"
Do you mean "been"? I thought Horne was pregnant with an alien when I first read that!
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| Quote ="Baron Greenback"Do you mean "been"? I thought Horne was pregnant with an alien when I first read that!
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| Quote ="Code13"To take a leaf from your book, Thormans gone, get over it man.'"
I was quoting the baron!
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