Surely this can’t be allowed to go on any more with Watson - we’re a shambles and his constant changes in selection particularly at full back and half back don’t allow for any building of cohesion. When we have much vaunted academy why is there an obsession with signing 30 somethings? I thought signing Connor was a bad move and have seen nothing to change my mind - I might be wrong but his presence seems to have coincided with Lolehea losing form. He doesn’t know who to pick from his big pool of players and we have gone so far back. He has criticised players in public which never ends well and leads to the type of performance we have tonight.

We are a side without any ambition or will to win and worse than that we don't know how to play football, Did anyone se an offload from the Giants tonight , I can't remember one.
They are an embarrassment in attack and a disgrace in defence, Surely Watson will go after tonight and take half that team with him , God knows what hes going to try next.

I've said everything i need to say already and sadly it is all proving correct. He has his first choice spine out and that is the result. There is only one change that is required, Watson has to go. He has no idea what a good player looks like, the longer Ken waits, the more deadwood we are going to get landed with.

One simple question. Is a coach who thinks that Olly Russell, Nathan Peats, and Adam Milner belong in the spine of a superleague side, and isn't even looking to recruit in those areas capable of building a side that is anything other than relegation fodder?

There are wider implications to this in that interest / enthusiasm for supporting and going to games is dropping and will have a long term impact on an already small support base. I think the club needs a complete refresh and an injection of real enthusiasm and engagement with the town and communities but that will have more chance of succeeding with a competitive team that is enjoyable to watch - which is not what we have now, the team last night looked physically weak, which we know they arent, so indicates a complete lack of determination and willingness to put full effort in so if that continues they will see less and less bums on seats despite a drive to get a record crowd against Leeds in August - now that's a real joke!!

It's fairly obvious what is happening. Watson insists on his process driven drivel which forces most players to play in a way that is against their natural instincts and they probably don't enjoy. When things are going well and the results are there, they will put up with it, but when, like now, it's going pearshaped they wont play a boring unattractive style of rugby that they don't enjoy when it is bearing no fruit.

Sadly what will happen, is that all the good players will leave for decent clubs and we will be left with the players who need that process driven crap to make themselves look like semi decent rugby players. I am willing to bet that Russell, Bibby, Peats, Senior, Marsters and Milner won't be going anywhere and Watson will sign more dross into the sinking ship in a fruitless search for players who are prepared to buy into his crappy style.

End it now Ken before he saddles us with more crap players for the next 2 or 3 years that will end any hopes of success during that time frame

Lots of commonsense there.

Hats off to the players & coaching staff over the last two games, especially the Catalans game, nobody gave us a chance - including me with how things have been going but that was a tremendous result.

Followed it up with a comprehensive result against Wakefield who have just been on a massive high after beating Leeds Rhinos & Wigan Warriors.

Having Jerry back has made a massive difference for me, he's just a beast of a player, takes the pressure off the forwards making those hard yards when coming in off the wing, his wing play is fantastic & its a joy to see him back in Fartown colours, I just hope he can stay injury free now, earn that 1 year contract for next year - imagine having Jerry & Swift as our wingers next year!

Now rest those bodies up, we've a massive game in 2 weeks live on Sky Sports vs Hull FC

We could have Billy Boston and Martin Offiah as our wingers next year and we would still be woeful with our current spine. Theo Fages is going, who when he has played has been by far the best half. Go look at the stats for Olly Russell on the superleague site:

Tries : 0
Try assists 1:
Clean Breaks : 0
Average gain: 2.9 metres per carry

This is a half back watson thinks is a mainstay of our side, and i haven't seen any moves to sign others. A guy who simply tips the ball on to the player outside him or inside to a forward and puts the odd kick in. Add Milner and Peats to the mix and nothing is going to change here. Wow we have beaten Wakefield twice and Castlefield twice and admittedly got two good wins against Catalans all year. We are totally and utterly knackered for the foreseeable future in my opinion, and we don't even have quota spots available to make any changes.
Listening to what Watson said post match i would imagine that McQueen is going to be leaving at the end of the year too which continues our run of losing our best player at ehe nd of every year (last year it was Leutele and Levi and before that Edwards and Sezar).

Sorry but i find it very difficult to have any enthusiasm at all for the hole i see that we are in due to our horrible recruitment and drubbing championship wakefield doesnt change my mind

Intresting to see Levi - who claims to be homesick which is why we let him leave is now set to be a Leeds Rhinos player next season.....

He isn't - he is signing on again with Canberra

Well this aged well, Knobs!!!

I had a moan when it was going crap but I was also the 1st to acknowledge that the staff & players had turned it round.

Another win tonight against a Cas team who imo will be the team to be relegated - regardless of the loan signing of Austin.

Huge credit to young Sam who came in for heavy criticism from our own coach with a fine hat trick tonight.

That's 4 wins on the trot for the Giants - we'llsee how far we've come next Sunday when we play Saints away.

I am happy that the team have shown spirit and turned it around, but i am not going to suddenly change my mind on the lack of quality in our spine. Connor is now playing well and combinging with Lolohea well, as i've said on the Cas thread i think this run will continue for a while yet, but will fizzle out when we play quality sides who want it as much as we do due to that lack of quality, would love to be proved wrong

looks like a lot of rebuilding been done for next season. i am hearing we have signed
Adam Swift
Andre Savellio and
Adam Clune

These are all decent players in positions that do need strengthening
i expect a lot of outgoings though with all of the below possible going
Mcgillvary
Pryce
Thages
O Brien
Jones
Trout
Ashworth
Mason
Ikahifho
McQueen

Of all those i would most like to see McQueen sign for 1 more year

I believe Ikahihifo signed a new 2 year deal last year, he's one I'd definitely keep, his impact off the bench is huge for us.

Clune looks a decent playmaker, partnered with Lolohea and with Connor at fullback thats a lot of the spine sorted. Nine is still a problem, Clune doesn't look like a running threat, so there is still no running threat in the middle of the park, would love us to sign someone with some pace or ability to break the line from the ruck. Look at what Ipape has done for Leigh this year. Nonetheless i'm happy we seem to have acquired a better standard of half than we currently have.

Who is Clune? I'm not familiar with the name

Imagine having Levi in that team, he'd be superb but sadly its not meant to be.

Aussie half back who plays for Newcastle Knights. It is rumoured he has signed for the Giants despite interest from Leeds and Hull.

Who's the Knob now? Being impressed with missing the playoffs and losing to the vast majority of teams at home despite having the most resources available to any coach certainly since Nathan Brown would see most coaches sacked by now. All this on the back of 'We will regularly be competing with Saints'. Amazing how little our fans expect, a few wins against bottom of the table sides and you got excited. We are a poor side, that lacks pace has no decent hooker and a shocking half back combination. We are where we deserve to be in the league and it is one man's fault.

C'mon Ken. I hate to say i told you so, but i told you so. Best players all leaving, 9th best team in the league with joint 3rd spend. Can't win a game at home and playing boring process driven game that no players or fans want to watch/play.
With the kind of funding he has been given it should have been elementary my dear Watson, but he is in way over his head and was obviously lucky with whoever was really pulling the strings at Salford while he was there (look how is is continuing on a shoestring)

To quote labour 'isn't it time for a change?'

The biggest mystery for me is not why I Watson gets away with it after what he has achieved in his time at the club ( with the money made available to him ) The mystery for me is why Mr Davy keeps going. He could have gone to almost any other S league club and had many time as much success for his money.
There is one thing that is blatantly obvious and that is , building a good league side is not just about throwing money at it , the success of other clubs on far less money shows that and its not just about the coach either, Though i believe that is the single most important thing. There is a whole feeling about the club that says looser, Mr Davy has gone to enormous lengths to try to make a good club but all his money and all his effort has proved to be not enough to get the fans to turn up and watch . My advice is to forget about signing the big name players like Burgess ( who will be expected to transform us into a good side) We have been down that road many times right back to the Scofield days. Yes we do need good players and Star players but the most important thing for me is to have the right people in the right places off the field first and it doesn't strike me as being a club with that.
I watson would not have lasted a half of what he has at the giants at some clubs because they do not accept mediocrity , when things look like they are starting to go wrong they do something about it very quickly whether it be coach or a mistake in signed players or backroom staff they get on with putting things right. the giants are far more likely to go out and sign another big name player and expect that to bring the fans rolling back.For me the coach is the key man and we have the wrong one, he may well work at another club i don't know but he is not working at Fartown, We are no better than when he came for all his talk. If Mr Davy can't see that then we are destined to be forever bottom feeders.

I have no great knowledge of the workings of the club but outside looking in it seems to me the club needs a big overhaul behind the scenes with a big injection of enthusiasm and rugby knowledge at the top. I also wonder if Mr Davy has been as patient with underperformance in his “real” business? There is a declining interest and enthusiasm amongst supporters, and there needs to be a big regeneration to have any hope of rebuilding the support base. The stadium doesn’t help as it’s far too big but the real frustration is with the performances from a squad that I keep reading is the 3rd most expensive in the league and we now see probably our best 2 players this year are leaving. Lost count but is this year 3 or 4 under Watson? Either way we are no nearer being a regular at the top and numbers attending are dropping. I see odd comments from opposition supporters that Huddersfield don’t bring anything to Super League and at the moment I have to agree. Home game this week against Hull who are really struggling so if we don’t win - and that is no disrespect to Hull it’s just based on their season so far- then we really are in trouble. I have never felt less enthusiasm for going to games than the last couple of seasons. I’m not really sure who is pulling the strings at the club but in my view it needs a shake up and quick!

Have to agree with you, it's clear the backroom and executive staff are subpar at Huddersfield. The coaches change, but except for two very good ones (Brown and Smith) throwing money at it doesn't have an impact. How much say others have in signings i don't know, but we seem very very poor at identifying talent, especially from overseas. Where some clubs (Salford and Leigh spring to mind) make very astute signings who prove to be great players, we are the opposite, we spend a lot on underperformers. It is also telling that players and coaches with ambition tend to head off quickly, we couldn;t keep Brown or Smith here long, and same for our better players. The whole attitude of the club is defeatist, and you are right it needs an overhaul. I don;t think there will be one though, as Ken seems to accept 2nd or even 3rd best in all regards for his money.

I've stopped watching and only look for results a while after matches now and i wont watch again until Watson is gone as i'm tired of hearing him make excuses and make bad signings. I wouldn't have resigned Lolohea as he is now past his best and coasting and i certainly wouldn't have paid the kind of money they will have paid to get Burgess here next year. It's more really bad business acumen, so strange that a selfmade man like Mr Davy allows it,

We have signed some good oversea players over the years, but more recently, they have been injury prone or not performed too well. I look back at Brad Drew, Whatuwra, Elford, Hodgson, Chan, Faalogo, Faiumu, Jenson with great memories. I think it is more difficult recruiting from the NRL, but tend to agree we struggle compared to other teams. I also feel we don't always get the best out of signings, like Salford, Leigh for example.