does any other clubs fans blame its CEO for players not performing or just ours? what exactly do people expect him to do once the players step onto the pitch, he's a fan like we all are so the performances are probably frustrating and hurting him too.

can you imagine your own kids reading horrible stuff about you on the internet cos someone has decided you do a poor job without knowing what is a good job in your role, its sickening at times and pathetic the abuse someone just trying his best in a very hard job gets off quite usually grown adults who have probably not achieved half of what this guy has !!

cut him some slack unless you have the money to do better !

Thewlis gets paid to appoint the coach
Thewlis gets paid to bring the players in and negotiate contracts
Thewlis gets paid to run the club and oversee all commercial aspects
Please tell me why he should be absolved from any blame just because he doesn’t take to the field or because he supports the club?
The club is run shambolicly but he should carry no flack for That ?
Ok well you are ken Davey and I claim my £10, if you run the company you take the praise when it goes well and the questions get asked of you when it doesn’t

but how is the players on the pitch his fault ? like i said hes an easy target and hes not responsible for commercial andy watson and brian blacker are

Who hires Andy Watson and Brian blacker and manages them?
Who brought the players in ?
Who appointed the physios ?
Who brought bumper back on big money for him to leave suddenly?
Who hired Woolford ?
Does it just happen or does someone sanction it all?

The board of directors do those things.... the board..... which consists of more than one person and includes Ken.
Not sure what your job is DJ- but would it be fair if your lads performance on the rugby field was to be judged not on his own performance but based on how well the groundsman did his job? Or the kit man? Or how many tickets they sold to a game?
I would imagine like most anyone RT has performance objectives and targets to meet in his job- I’d imagine they would be based on the financial performance of the business and not the performance of the team on the field. The fact he’s still around suggests he’s been meeting those targets.
RT is first and foremost a fan- he wants the team to succeed whereas another in that role might not actually care what the results on the field were as long as he was meeting his own personal targets.
It’s like some twisted backwards form of mizaru and kikazaru we could do with more of the third one and speak less evil!

So if the board of directors do all that then what does he actually do then? And I don’t have kids so not sure what your analogy was getting at, hey you think he walks on water that’s fine, those who have left the club as they find him difficult to work with are all liars who harbour a grudge it seems, you know he’s a good egg because he tells you he is, keep drinking the coolade and having rows on Facebook with other fans, Adios

Do you understand how a board of directors works in a business?
if the analogy is too difficult for you to understand perhaps you should just stop trying.
So you’ve spoken to people who have left the club? I thought we “got rid” of people at the giants going by comments on here- people surely don’t leave!
I used to believe the crap that’s spouted but a number of years ago I was invited, with a few others, a couple on here, to speak to Ken, Paul Morgan and RT. Ive made up my own mind since that point based on my own personal experiences of dealing with him- not from hearsay on social media or from anyone else.
I’m not saying RT isn’t without fault - but he’s being blamed for things outside of his control, and being accused of making decisions he doesn’t, or without people knowing the full facts (which he will usually tell you if you ask).
He’s a fan just like the rest of us.

The club has said for a long time - ten years at least - that it needed to attract 10,000+ crowds. That is, presumably, a key target for the club as a business.

How’s that coming along?

Something that I’ve long pondered is how rugby union clubs have managed huge growth in crowds. I worked for a long time in Northampton and over the same period the Giants have stagnated, the Saints have grown hugely. Why?

Money and facilities..... and the product being devalued by the governing body.

The club said to be sustainable they needed to attract 10,000 - they tried and showed more than once they can’t do that giving tickets away for free which suggests that in this town it’s not achievable! - so the club have taken a different tack in more recent times and the corporate and sponsorship stuff is worth more money than ordinary ticket sales. That’s why the commercial decision was made to switch to Fridays- not to do with the fans but all to do with corporate.
A business club deal is worth 50 walk up ticket sales, a box 40 walk up ticket sales, an executive ticket is worth 10x what I paid for my ST.
You only have to look at the website to see how the commercial section of it has grown to see the focus has changed.

not enlightened many people jools..... on your own on thewlis

It scares me how people can just believe propaganda. Society are slaves to it. It’s a slippery slope.

Obviously not enlightened you Giants RL, however I feel many people (without an axe to grind) will have a better understanding of the man and his role.

I'm not one particularly for properganda jools and i haven't slagged anyone off in particular. I have just commented on the podcast and my take on it. You can only judge a business on how you see it doing, I'm with Steve May on this, whoever has run the club for the past decade has overseen a slide downhill, Maybe it's just mirroring Huddersfield in general.

Fair enough i know nothing about the corporate side but if it's so good why bother with the Rugby at all, on the face of it no one at the club seems over bothered other than Mr Davy throwing money at it periodically. As usual though the miserable failure of the team to show any kind of potential to go forward in any way is as ever down to the moaning fans and endless bad luck.

The fans just keep turning up ( granted in decreasing numbers ) they cant do much else, they aren't running the club , they don't buy the poor expensive players that we have had over the years. So who does run the club who is responsible for getting us into such a shambolic state It's all just bad luck and we should appreciate what a difficult job it is and get behind the boys, Just what some people on here think we have been doing by going down to watch the utter tripe they are turning out is beyond me.
Still onward and upwards eh, or maybe more likely backward and downwards, what does it matter as as long as the bowl of Gravy is still there to dip their bread in.

jo jumbuck what a pessimistic moaner you are.All clubs have ups and downs. We were the best team in superleague just a few years ago. We signed many internationals/origin players and still our support wasn`t strong enough to warrant the expenditure needed. Hence our concentration on commercial sponsorship, a sound business decision. The board makes decisions on what they believe to be in the clubs best interest. It doesn`t always work out, but thats sport. However when our club is going through a less successful period on the field thats when we need support more than ever. Everyone is trying on the playing side, their jobs depend on it. So lets get behind the players, the chairman, M.D>, and everyone else. When you are doing your job, do you think it would help to have someone (unqualified) to be telling you how wrong you were doing things and how if you listened to them it would be so much better? Listen to the podcast again and you may have a better understanding.

Fair enough mate, you have your opinion and i mine, and i reckon 30 years of supporting gives me a right to one . regards telling them they are wrong I would have thought the level the club have fallen to would have been a fair indicator of that. I would suggest when it gets to name calling it's a sign of a lost argument.

I agree with your final statement, which is why the only name I have called you was Jo Jumbuck

Best leave it there then mate, Let the club prove what a great job they are doing. It will be a bad time to get relegated ( if it happens ) because as i understand it there are big changes coming in 2021 when S league takes over a lot of the responsibility for the game from the RFL. we need to be at the top table if and when that happens. I'm sure someone has their finger on the pulse.

Yes someone has their finger on the pulse, we just need that to reflect on the field, a positive note to finish on!

Fair enough

I hope the person with the finger on the pulse isn't the same person who dealt with either of the Jake Connor or Kwith Mason fiascos.

Excellent point

Bradford went from poor crowds to the biggest crowds - how?

Probably a lot of free tickets but we cant give tickets away and lets not go down the success on the pitch route as we were top 4 for a number of years and were top of league with average attendance of what? 6000?

It is

I actually think that was part of the problem, we massively undervalued ourselves with cheap tickets when we started to see success on the field, since then the product has worsened and prices increased, to the casual fan that is not an attractive prospect. Even if we do still have brilliant value season tickets.

Think we were around 8500? Lack of ambition by the club to participate in the WCC after we finished top gave a strong message that we weren't interested in becoming a big club.

agreed