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| Really glad I didn't fork out even £15 to watch that pile of crap. It was like watching the team of 2 months ago when Rick Stone was in charge. No attack, nothing creative, no ambition, no real enthusiasm but decent defence in the 1st half. 5 drives and a kick, which were poor anyway. Why, when there's only 4 games on this weekend, are we allocated a part-time ref??? Mind you I've said it before that the officiating in RL as a whole is poor to say the least. Every game is blighted by really bad decisions and in some cases can affect the outcome. Something needs to be done and fast.
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| Get used to that style of play, instructions for Seb is no offloads, brough drill into corners, no one take any risks
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| Agree with all this.
But in the end, it’s far more important to finish eighth than to get to the Cup semi final. Sad, when you look at the history of the Challenge Cup, but nonetheless true.
Cudjoe got a good run out in a game that didn’t really matter. And the coaching team get to wonder why the energy wasn’t there and hopefully put it right.
That’s about all you can say TBH.
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| Quote ="djhudds"Get used to that style of play, instructions for Seb is no offloads, brough drill into corners, no one take any risks'"
If that’s how Woolford wants to play, that’s fine. But he’d better check his contract to see what will happen after he gets the club relegated and loses all his best players for nothing.
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| Quote ="Steve May"If that’s how Woolford wants to play, that’s fine. But he’d better check his contract to see what will happen after he gets the club relegated and loses all his best players for nothing.'"
Or perhaps he recognises that we have a team full of cloughs/murphys/roberts who are solid players but don’t have a skill set for creative play.
How many offloads went wrong last night-we can’t even pass and catch the ball going by our set completion rate last night.
I reckon he’s got it right! There were Some stupid offload/pass attempts in stupid places. Our kicking game was abysmal-how many 7 tackle sets did we give them!
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| Jools your point is slightly undermined by fact that the dull, turgid approach to the game last night ended up with a loss to a crap side.
If he plays like that, we’re stuffed
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| very true all that, we have never been able to manage a game, thats down to brough for me to do that but he just loses his cool when its not going to plan
dont agree with sin binning of him, why wasnt the catalans player also sin binned for a head high on leeming?? broughs reputation maybe the reason why but thats not fair from the ref hewer who i knew likes catalans from previous matches watched with him against us and catalan
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| Quote ="djhudds"Get used to that style of play, instructions for Seb is no offloads, brough drill into corners, no one take any risks'"
well when he does offload theres no one there to take it and often ends in a knock on or us going backwards.
brough was putting high kicks in , dont mind drill to corners if we are controlling the game and winning
back to basics rugby... still a long way to go and i still think we will be in the middle 8's
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| Quote ="jools"Or perhaps he recognises that we have a team full of cloughs/murphys/roberts who are solid players but don’t have a skill set for creative play.
How many offloads went wrong last night-we can’t even pass and catch the ball going by our set completion rate last night.
I reckon he’s got it right! There were Some stupid offload/pass attempts in stupid places. Our kicking game was abysmal-how many 7 tackle sets did we give them!'"
yep we just dont have the players
thats why the likes of mamo, wakeman and hinchcliffe have to go to allow woolford to bring in his own
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| Quote ="Steve May"Agree with all this.
But in the end, it’s far more important to finish eighth than to get to the Cup semi final. Sad, when you look at the history of the Challenge Cup, but nonetheless true.
Cudjoe got a good run out in a game that didn’t really matter. And the coaching team get to wonder why the energy wasn’t there and hopefully put it right.
That’s about all you can say TBH.'"
the energy was there, but when your tackling big forwards for the most the game that will soon be zapped.....
good kicking game from catalans just kept pinning us back in our half and then we had our own errors on top . truly awful game and one to forget
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| We play big packs week in week out so shouldn't be a surprise when they come up against one. Catalan's pack is no bigger than Wakeys which we dealt with twice in succession. If anyone from the hierarchy at the Giant's reads this forum then I'll tell you here and now, if we go back to the Rick Stone/Aussie way of playing the game from now till the end of the season then you'll have 2 less season ticket holders from this household. Don't mind losing when you can see the team trying to play a bit , like under Thorman, but no way am I willing to pay to watch 80 minutes of 5 one up drives followed by an iffy kick. Hopefully yesterday's game was a settler for his first game in charge and he'll realise that the team can actually play a bit if he let's them. Next couple of weeks will tell.
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| It took Thorman a month to persuade the team they could play a bit after Rick Stone’s boredomball.
If Woolford thinks the way to succeed in SL is to coach every last drop of attacking out of them, then we’re headed out of SL and his coaching career won’t last til Christmas
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| Couldn't agree more with previous two posters and am very concerned with both Thursdays performance and more importantly the press conference that Woolford gave prior to the match
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| Quote ="Steve May"It took Thorman a month to persuade the team they could play a bit after Rick Stone’s boredomball.
If Woolford thinks the way to succeed in SL is to coach every last drop of attacking out of them, then we’re headed out of SL and his coaching career won’t last til Christmas'"
Any time you watch the NRL games featuring the lower ranked teams the commentators talk about getting the basics right. Woolford will look to settle the team be competitive in SL and beat the teams around them . A new coach is in a no win if fans expect the Harlem Globetrotters style play and to hell with the results. If the Giants are lauded for their style of play and they get relegated would he have a job?
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being naive if you think woolford hasnt had his say on training past month, he has had robbo and thorman up at 5am every morning on skype telling them what to do and how to have them playing.
as for us beating wakefield with a big pack, yes we did but we had taai that helped and also catalan bossed the game the other night, slowing it right down and putting great kicks in, worked for them
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| Quote ="stpatricks"Any time you watch the NRL games featuring the lower ranked teams the commentators talk about getting the basics right. Woolford will look to settle the team be competitive in SL and beat the teams around them . A new coach is in a no win if fans expect the Harlem Globetrotters style play and to hell with the results. If the Giants are lauded for their style of play and they get relegated would he have a job?'"
I get that, but this
“Get used to that style of play, instructions for Seb is no offloads, brough drill into corners, no one take any risks”
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| Quote ="Steve May"I get that, but this
“Get used to that style of play, instructions for Seb is no offloads, brough drill into corners, no one take any risks”
is a guaranteed way to lose in SL'"
It how you put things into context- those instructions could mean Seb no stupid offloads drive in hard get a quick play the ball, brough I want you pushing them back kick to the corners we hunt for a mistake. It might not be as negative as it sounds its basic but its what the better teams well. Saints are at the top due to an improved defence not just flash attacking plays
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| Quote ="Steve May"I get that, but this
“Get used to that style of play, instructions for Seb is no offloads, brough drill into corners, no one take any risks”
is a guaranteed way to lose in SL'"
And Fans.
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| Let Woolford play the way he think we should play and see how it goes we should all stop complaining before we actually see how it’s going to happen 1 game which didn’t really mean anything to us isn’t a way to judge it
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| Quote ="Jo Jumbuck"And Fans.'"
Didn’t seem to affect Wigan’s attendances.....
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| Wigans average attendance dropped significantly in the last 3 or 4 seasons due to season ticket holders not renewing ,home stand behind goals was virtually full every home game on tv ,now its three quarters full.Could be a factor in Wane leaving
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Quote ="aliw2001"Wigans average attendance dropped significantly in the last 3 or 4 seasons due to season ticket holders not renewing ,home stand behind goals was virtually full every home game on tv ,now its three quarters full.Could be a factor in Wane leaving'"
???? Wigan claim average attendances have INCREASED in the last two years- they put that in part down to changing games to a Sunday.....
www.wiganwarriors.com/news/2017- ... e-increase
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???? Wigan claim average attendances have INCREASED in the last two years- they put that in part down to changing games to a Sunday.....
www.wiganwarriors.com/news/2017- ... e-increase
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With due respect jools comparing Giants and Wigan is like comparing Sausages to Fillet steak, for all sort of reasons, on and off the pitch.
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With due respect jools comparing Giants and Wigan is like comparing Sausages to Fillet steak, for all sort of reasons, on and off the pitch.
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| Somewhere I have a sports encyclopaedia from the late fifties and in the rugby league section it has a guide to all the clubs. For Huddersfield it says something like “The most glamorous and decorated club in the game, only Wigan are rivals”
Somehow, it all went badly wrong at Fartown.
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| money dried up? or money went into others like leeds and wigan!
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