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| For me it's got to be:
1. Mamo
2. Jerry
3. Wood
4. Murphy
5. Macintosh
6. Brough
7. Hinchliffe
8. Ikahihifo
9. Leeming
10. Smith
11. Ferguson
12. Mellor
13. Clough
14. Wakeman
15. English
16. O Brien
17. Roberts
Mikey Wood and Jared Simpson to miss.
May aswell play English.
Gaskell and Rapira dropped for their diabolical performances Sunday or injured?
Nathan Mason also injured!
30-40 point hammering??
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| is mcintosh not banned?
if so then simpson on the wing
gaskell was injured on sunday, saw him hurt his leg first half
mason looked like a nasty one, shoulder/arm maybe
bookies -16 on the handicap for leeds.... had abit on!
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| Darnell has been charged. It's the third time he's been up before them for punching so will likely be banned - grade a so 1 game probably
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| just going to be cannon fodder anyway, no matter who turns out
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| only one 1/2 in the squad could be a cricket score letting brieley go without a replacment given brough situation and gaskills injury record looks plain stupid
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| Quote ="40 year old giant"only one 1/2 in the squad could be a cricket score letting brieley go without a replacment given brough situation and gaskills injury record looks plain stupid'"
You sound surprised by our clubs stupidity?!
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| Seems that Brierley wanted to go so club had little choice really - seems we have enough players who don't want to be at the club already given the standards of performance???
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| think he just wanted to play love to go back 12 months as a club we where in better shape just needed a new coach now its a coach and a full team how bad can things get
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| Quote ="devoniangiant"Seems that Brierley wanted to go so club had little choice really - seems we have enough players who don't want to be at the club already given the standards of performance???'"
1. It would appear , if they looked in the mirror that possibly they are the reason they want away perhaps?
2. I would presume someone has asked them WHY? WELL HOPE!
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| Would imagine the why is cause we are losing every week...
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| Is Farrell injured?
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| Quote ="Crackerjack"1. It would appear , if they looked in the mirror that possibly they are the reason they want away perhaps?
2. I would presume someone has asked them WHY? WELL HOPE!'"
No No he just had to go, He didn't turn out to be a miracle player, Unlike our contingent from the Bulls, not to mention some of our highly rated Aussie stars.
He had bags of pace, and he was the only player we had who was even likely to back up, but that's not so easy from the stand, Still he was here 6 months, more than enough time for him to turn us around, must have had all of 15 games i would think.
We have players who we have persevered with for season on season, Some we have offloaded as not good enough and then re-signed, A regular feature at times.
We have a great coaching team, that's obvious by the quality of our game and our lofty position in the league, and most of them are Giant through and through we are told, so the problem with Brierley must have been brierley . On yer bike mate, ya can't fool us.
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| Quote ="Jo Jumbuck"No No he just had to go, He didn't turn out to be a miracle player, Unlike our contingent from the Bulls, not to mention some of our highly rated Aussie stars.
He had bags of pace, and he was the only player we had who was even likely to back up, but that's not so easy from the stand, Still he was here 6 months, more than enough time for him to turn us around, must have had all of 15 games i would think.
We have players who we have persevered with for season on season, Some we have offloaded as not good enough and then re-signed, A regular feature at times.
We have a great coaching team, that's obvious by the quality of our game and our lofty position in the league, and most of them are Giant through and through we are told, so the problem with Brierley must have been brierley . On yer bike mate, ya can't fool us.'"
Not Brierleys fault he could not tackle, pass, organise a defence, make anything off his own back, bring players into a game. At least all Ellis could not do was tackle
Dropping 2 divisions probably puts him at his correct level, and shows his lack of ambition/confidence in his own ability.
Good in a dominant team, useless where he has to take responsibility
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| but was brierley allowed to take any responsibility?
sergeant brough would be on the case big time if any one dared take charge of a game
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| If it wasn't for Brierley winning the Hull KR match last season we would already be in the championship. Who do you think will be next to leave the Titanic?
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| Quote ="hedgehog"Not Brierleys fault he could not tackle, pass, organise a defence, make anything off his own back, bring players into a game. At least all Ellis could not do was tackle
Dropping 2 divisions probably puts him at his correct level, and shows his lack of ambition/confidence in his own ability.
Good in a dominant team, useless where he has to take responsibility'"
Well everyone knew the type of player he was when they fought so hard to get him, And according to PA he was brought here to play Fullback, I would have thought the plan was to play to his strengths, but obviously not.
You may have a point about being in a dominant team. That was never going to happen with us though was it ? We can't dominate an injury hit team of Amateurs, If fact i don't think i can remember the last time we dominated anybody, Our pack is well adjusted to coming off second best. Worth remembering also that without Brierley we would almost certainly have been playing in the Championship now
Ellis was a honest trier who was capable of a good game in and among , He had been at enough S League clubs to have made his mark but failed to do so at every one, Including the Giants, and it wont have escaped your notice we now have half a team full of Championship players, Including a half who can't tackle either, mostly because he spends as much time crocked as he does playing.
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| Quote ="Jo Jumbuck"Well everyone knew the type of player he was when they fought so hard to get him, And according to PA he was brought here to play Fullback, I would have thought the plan was to play to his strengths, but obviously not.
You may have a point about being in a dominant team. That was never going to happen with us though was it ? We can't dominate an injury hit team of Amateurs, If fact i don't think i can remember the last time we dominated anybody, Our pack is well adjusted to coming off second best. Worth remembering also that without Brierley we would almost certainly have been playing in the Championship now
Ellis was a honest trier who was capable of a good game in and among , He had been at enough S League clubs to have made his mark but failed to do so at every one, Including the Giants, and it wont have escaped your notice we now have half a team full of Championship players, Including a half who can't tackle either, mostly because he spends as much time crocked as he does playing.'"
Except it could be argued Gaskell isn't really a championship player- in the same way as brierley, unlike him He spent his junior years learning At a SL club in a full time environment from some top class players. Saints would not sell him when we tried all that time ago- so thought he had something. He then played at two other SL clubs- and it could be argued he ended up at a championship club through showing loyalty rather than his ability. For me Gaskell has shown himself to be a better 'rugby' player than brierley did.
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| Darnell has escaped a ban and just received a fine for his punching charge so will be available to play Thursday.
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| Quote ="jools"Except it could be argued Gaskell isn't really a championship player- in the same way as brierley, unlike him He spent his junior years learning At a SL club in a full time environment from some top class players. Saints would not sell him when we tried all that time ago- so thought he had something. He then played at two other SL clubs- and it could be argued he ended up at a championship club through showing loyalty rather than his ability. For me Gaskell has shown himself to be a better 'rugby' player than brierley did.'"
Your points about Gaskell are fair enough jools, my references to him were more in the way of his injury record, But i agree with you he has a more complete game than Brierley.
But to be fair we have lots of players who are very one dimensional so why single out Brierley without making any attempt to utilize his skills or at least play to them. Has Hinchcliffe ever made a run from dummy, They must be rare, Has Lawrence ever broken the line and offloaded, equally rare but we still persevere with him, and we have others who's games are very suspect in parts, They however are not expected to transform us into a winning side in a handful of matches. Brierley was at least capable of winning us a game , and did,
His tackling has been cited as being very poor" fair enough " but bearing in mind the number of games he has played, and our points against this season , it would appear the problem will not be solved with him going, so why are we not giving the same amount of credit to our stalwarts, who are doing so much better than Brierley.
But Hey ho he is gone now, so it onward and up with the Giants.
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| So who will be HB tonight?
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| find out in about an hour!
leeming? hinchcliffe? has macintosh played abit at half back before
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| None of the above have played at half back AFAIK. Sam wood has though!
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| Wood it is- just seen team sheet!
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| FOLLOWED YOUR ADVICE BREARLEY, LEEDS -20, PARCELL, MOON HALL TO SCORE 20/1. SORRY FOR CAPS NEEDED AT WORK, HOPE YOU GUYS STICK IT UP THEM THOUGH I HAVE A YEARLY BET ABOUT YOU BEING IN THE TOP 8 HAVE FAITH
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| Well done Hudds, we got off lightly.
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