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| Anyone know why he was a late withdrawal from the squad?
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| Quote ="jools"Anyone know why he was a late withdrawal from the squad?'"
There’s a rumour going around he’s done something wrong which I’d normally dismiss but the source also knew he was out and Roche in before the team was announced...
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| Yes, i've too heard the rumour hes got got himself into some sort of bother and we may not see him again this season for us.
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| Quote ="GiantJake1988"Yes, i've too heard the rumour hes got got himself into some sort of bother and we may not see him again this season for us.'"
Longer than that if what I’ve heard is true
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| I appreciate the temptation and interest but don’t post anything on the site which might become problematic.
If anyone wants to share info use the pm system. Cheers Mick
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| Quote ="fartown since 1961"There’s a rumour going around he’s done something wrong which I’d normally dismiss but the source also knew he was out and Roche in before the team was announced...'" isn't it strange that when we are playing well the rumours start?
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| Quote ="bilko1941"isn't it strange that when we are playing well the rumours start?'"
that is true!!!
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| Quote ="GIANTSRL"icon_lol.gif that is true!!!'" Yes the truth is He was dropped!
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| hows the rumour going?!
seems to have stopped
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| See if he plays on Fridayicon_wink.gif
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| Quote ="Code13"See if he plays on Fridayicon_wink.gif'"
well he played???? still a nasty rumour ????
to be honest we lost our way when he came on and he got trampled over for the hull try! but showed a few nice touches too going forward
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| another poor display lastnight
we seem to go to pieces when obrien leaves the field!
leeming really does take some poor options on the field at times, going to need a good pre season under woolford to improve again
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| Holmes in to play hooker rather than halves possibly
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| Absolute tosh
He put in a very good performance apart from one wayward pass (that was good defence by Trin since otherwise we'd have scored)
His running and passing is sharper than AOB and he seems to cause more hesitation in the defence. Plus he has a fantastic kicking game.
We went To pieces because we had props in the centre spots and second rows on the wing and no subs for 30 mins.
I wonder what game some of you watch at times
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| If you think Leeming is doing well that’s your opinion, he got dropped by the coaches so they don’t rate him as much as you
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| clearly code 13 not been watching the giants and leemings performances this season
hes had one good game and that was at salford, needs a big pre season and to come back strong next season
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| Rubbish- leeming has the best acting half running game than any other hooker in SL bar Roby. (And possibly Clarke in his Cas days).
If Johnston had been tackled then no one would have remembered the pass- I notice nobody at all mentioned the TWO passes rankin made to the opposition- or the poor work from brough that has the wakey fans jeering.......
I take it leeming is the current scapegoat???
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| Quote ="djhudds"If you think Leeming is doing well that’s your opinion, he got dropped by the coaches so they don’t rate him as much as you'"
Might have had something to do with his shoulder injury but sure
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| For me Leeming is not the latest scapegoat, however his performances this season have not been good and for me he has gone backwards....
O'Brien was castigated when he first arrived from Bradford, but he has knuckled down, worked hard and probably is not as gifted as Leeming, but for me he has moved waaayyy ahead of him in the pecking order.
Jools mentioned Leeming in the same post as Roby! Leeming is nowhere near as good as Roby or Clark, looks unfit, regularly drops off tackles and his minutes on the pitch is low compared to others.
Would absolutely love him to fulfill his potential, but he needs to do the hard work first....
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| Quote ="Country Giant"For me Leeming is not the latest scapegoat, however his performances this season have not been good and for me he has gone backwards....
O'Brien was castigated when he first arrived from Bradford, but he has knuckled down, worked hard and probably is not as gifted as Leeming, but for me he has moved waaayyy ahead of him in the pecking order.
Jools mentioned Leeming in the same post as Roby! Leeming is nowhere near as good as Roby or Clark, looks unfit, regularly drops off tackles and his minutes on the pitch is low compared to others.
Would absolutely love him to fulfill his potential, but he needs to do the hard work first....'"
Think that about sums it up.
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| Quote ="fartown4815"Might have had something to do with his shoulder injury but sure'"
He was fit for three weeks but not picked
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| Quote ="Country Giant"For me Leeming is not the latest scapegoat, however his performances this season have not been good and for me he has gone backwards....
O'Brien was castigated when he first arrived from Bradford, but he has knuckled down, worked hard and probably is not as gifted as Leeming, but for me he has moved waaayyy ahead of him in the pecking order.
Jools mentioned Leeming in the same post as Roby! Leeming is nowhere near as good as Roby or Clark, looks unfit, regularly drops off tackles and his minutes on the pitch is low compared to others.
Would absolutely love him to fulfill his potential, but he needs to do the hard work first....'"
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| Quote ="Country Giant"For me Leeming is not the latest scapegoat, however his performances this season have not been good and for me he has gone backwards....
O'Brien was castigated when he first arrived from Bradford, but he has knuckled down, worked hard and probably is not as gifted as Leeming, but for me he has moved waaayyy ahead of him in the pecking order.
Jools mentioned Leeming in the same post as Roby! Leeming is nowhere near as good as Roby or Clark, looks unfit, regularly drops off tackles and his minutes on the pitch is low compared to others.
Would absolutely love him to fulfill his potential, but he needs to do the hard work first....'"
Its frustrating when people make stuff up in their own head about what I say. Its like I write one thing and people read another. please read what I said - I said his running game was second only to Roby, didn't say he was as good as Roby (or Clarke). Might he look unfit (your opinion, I don't particularly share it)because he's missed games through injury? -might he be doing lower minutes as a result?
As for the falling off tackles comment - where on Earth has that idea come from? he's missed 15 tackles from 457 all season!!!!!!
of course now its been said the rumour will perpetuate that he cant tackle - because someone read it on here and someone else said what a good post it was....
As a comparison Roberts who has made the same number of tackles as him this year has missed 40. Seb whos made slightly fewer tackles has missed 27, and Mellor who's made 10 more tackles has missed 34.
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| Oh my! What was I thinking - questioning your unrivalled knowledge of all things RL.
I've never known you reading something else into what someone has posted on here.....
These were my opinions of what I have seen from him this season and obviously unlike you I haven't been particularly impressed and as I said seems to be going backwards.
You mention Roberts and Seb in your post and I think most will agree including me that they have also been below par - but seeing as the topic is named "Leeming" I thought it would post my opinion on his performances.
Simon Woolford obviously knows a thing or two about hookers, so it will be interesting to see how much he rates him. Maybe our new coach is giving him less minutes because he thinks he in not putting in the effort, (just my opinion of course).
So after quoting Leemings stats for the season - do you think he has had a good season, as I feel we seem to go off the boil a bit when O'Brien is subbed.
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| I think he’s had a solid season overall- some games better than others. I have said time and again he’s young and still learning.
I honestly think “potentially” he’s a better all round hooker than O’Brien. (The comments by Hinchcliffe about It no longer being a game for 85kg hookers were interesting don’t you think) His stop/ start season has disrupted him this year.
His strengths are his tackling and his running game, he needs to work on his discipline. He also has a bit of a kicking game which adds another dimension “potentially” to his game that O’Brien does not appear to possess.
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