Not really disappointed as I expected that tonight deep down.

We were never going to win the game after the first 5-10 minutes set the tone. Try disallowed. Hull Player in touch and try given. 2 Knock ons from us immediately, Hull score again, game over.

Positives? Not many.... OH yeah 1 Leeds got hammered with more or less a full side out.

A couple more....
Sam Wood always puts his body on the line
Darnell looked good under the high ball and ran in well
Ollie Roberts put a massive shift in a different position to him

Negatives....cant be d with them all but

RYAN HINCHLIFFE - Can someone please explain for the salary he will be on what he actually offers the team?? At fault for 2 tries tonight, bad news is he is here for another 2 years after this. Rapira also at fault for 1 maybe 2 with stupid passes.

Would I swap Rapira and Hinchliffe to have Kopczak and Jack Hughes backand still probably have money spare - OF COURSE.

Bad thing is if we have this many injuries now and if we lose CRUCIAL games to Leigh next week - which I expect given all the injuries and Leeds 2 weeks after which will be a 50/50 we are back at the bottom of the league and fair to say we are in a massive battle at the bottom of the table again as we have no hope at all of winning games away at Wigan, Cas and Saints have we????

10 players out injured after 3 games something is not right.

When teams break no matter if its a forward or a back then will out pace us and score... us on the attack we get caught after 10 metres.

Really worrying times now over the next few weeks anymore injuries and we are doomed.

giantjake jack hughes was never our player he was on loan could get to the game being mid week game . Cas on sky tonight ripped a strong leeds side to shredds the issue i have with the giants is our reccrutment over the passed number of years has been very poor would like to know what a cap is compaired to likes of Cas

Your recruitment can't be as bad as the Rhinos. Remember we knew 3 players were retiring in 2015 and made no effort to sign any player of sufficient calibre. Now we have at least 3 players ready for the scrap yard (McGuire, JJB, Delaney) who will try to see the season out and there will be no attempt to recruit players of quality. See you in the middle eights.

deary me hes got a foot in touch while still almost upright. by the time he grounds the ball he's a mile in touch....Shocker.....

Can't see his foot there tbh-
We did find out that hull fans had obviously just learnt a new word.


Sam wood is going to be a great player. Tyler Dickinson too.
That having 8 first team players out is going to mean a difficult night.
Best we can hope for is taai back next week. Hope Leroy and Gaskell make it back too!

The Hull players boot is the same colour as his jersey. The boot can be seen just above the tacklers waist and almost fully over the touch line.....

Looks like the shirt to me as he tries to drag him into touch zi do not think its his boot from that shot its not very clear at all

Do agree his foot looks in touch.

Would like Rick Stone to release a statement today of who is injured, how long for and who is back next week.

If Cudjoe and Gaskell still had slight niggles we did right leaving them out as even with them 2 we were never going to win that game. Next week is more winnable but only if we get 5 players back.

Jerry is the biggest loss by far

I don't think the young lads particularly let anyone down last night. We just lacked any real strike in attack, dropped too much ball and gave away too many penalties. We gifted Hull too many tries and they ran away with it in the end.

I think both Woods and Dickinson played well. Also thought Wakeman stood up last night. Sam Wood seems very vocal which has to be a good thing in a young team.

I agree about injuries I've hardly seen anything in the papers confirming anything. If it wasn't for this forum I'd have no idea what was going on! Im assuming Gaskell had a tight hammy or similar as he was out there for the warm up.

Gaskell had a irregular heartbeat mate and had a fit in training earlier in the week, not good! Could end up not playing again.

Don't let total BS get in the way of a good story. Only all of our run on pack (- Parcell) plus Burrow and Briscoe. So that's just 7 of our starting 13.

God awful game to watch. Even if the score had been close our defence is currently shocking and our attack is as boring as always. We are stood still in the defensive line all game.
I can't think of much positives from last night. I'm stuck to think of one. I don't think our effort dipped too much and our fullback caught the ball better.

Hull out played us. Injuries, playing a young side and a dodgy first try aren't good enough excuses for that showing.

Back to the drawing board... hopefully with a brand new game plan that can at least entertain the fans.

Is this the same Ryan Hinchcliffe who made 37 tackles and ran for 107 metres. By far our highest tackler and by far the highest metre maker in the forwards.

Some of the stuff i've seen posted on facebook is shocking and ridiculous, people saying they want their money back and won't attend another game this year etc, jeez people get a reality check, we were playing against a very good side who came pretty close to having a near perfect season last year, with all our regular back line and most of our forwards, our captain and vice captain, one of the best wingers in the world, probably our best forward this year and our generally most experienced players missing.

If anyone went to that game expecting us to win or came away angry and mad at what they saw then i'm afraid your expectations are way too high.

Losing Gaskell before kick off also hampered us - we had a full back making his senior debut, a centre with 4 career appearances moved to the wing, a 2nd row with 1 previous appearance moved to the centre, another centre with 10 super league games, and 3 of our bench who had 26 appearances between them.

It was always going to be damage limitation and i thought the last 20 minutes they showed some grit and determination to score twice and keep the scoreline down when it looked like it was gonna be a huge one.

Darnell went well and looked safe, as did Ormsby, be quite happy with these 2 in the future, thought Hinchy did well apart from his brainfart pass, made some good metres for us and we needed his defence in the middle without Bruno.
Mikey Wood impressed me too and seemed to get through a fair bit of tackling.

Not too bothered as it was a game most of us had written off anyway and was a bit of experience for the young lads, onto Leigh now.

Well said Daz

Absolutely correct! chalk that one off, the score should have been 42-8, oh hang on Hudds had a try disallowed make that 42-14 (benefit of the doubt given that the 2 would have been scored)

Well said Daz.
ANY other side would have struggled with that level of disruption.

Nobody could field a team like that and expect to have much of a chance, which is what most people expected, That said it was a very disappointing effort from most of the players, The worst thing is that our so called first choice players were not our best players last night and to be honest i don't think Hull really needed to exert themselves. It's no good coming on and saying how many Cas beat Leeds by as some sort of justification, I could just as easily say if we had played Cas they would have put 150 on us. It was not up to standard.

I don't know if RS ever reads this forum ( if he does ) Rick our defensive line speed is the slowest of any team playing S league " whatever team you pick" and it's difficult to find words to express how little idea we have when attacking the try line. You said it would take two seasons and i think you are being optimistic there , but we have to stick in there and find a way to get better, I didn't expect anything except a loss last night but i expected a better showing than that. Early days.

Have to put that down as one of them games where firstly we would not expect to win given the injuries, number of young and inexperienced players, players changing position, late changes to the line up immediately before KO etc...

After the poor start with possession coughed up early in sets - some brain fart passes - and confidence losses through conceding some real poor tries we were never going to compete.

Having said that and whilst fully accepting the loss I was still very disappointed with our style of play. With the exception of Seb we were never going to break through the middle of a good strong team but failed to play any other way to at least test ourselves. One out plays abound far too often for mine. Can accept a loss far better when we have been a bit more adventurous in our play but then through lack of experience, bad luck, or just good defence fail to get on terms.

Good points though:
Seb was outstanding.
Sam Wood showed he can score for fun even playing out of position.
Darnall looked confident and secure at the back.
Others at least got some experience and no doubt learnt loads.

Onwards to Leigh with hope that we can get a better game plan and preparation regardless of who is available.

thought at the time it was an awful decision, cleary he was in touch for me!! just after the forward pass try that we had disallowed

but doesnt really matter much would still have lost

The main problem I have have been over the 3 home games I have witnessed.
Losing isn't the biggy for me. It's how consistently bad our defence and line speed have been. Our game plan is quite frankly boring.

It is exciting watching our young players having a real go and coping well but I fear we might miss what they are capable of if our one drive down the middle rugby is the tactic we will use all season.

Passionate fans like myself will put up with whatever is put in front of us, but some won't buy season tickets if we are boring to watch.

We aren't currently strong enough down the middle to do what we are doing.

Agree with that.

get a grip his foot was in the air lol

What did you expect from Bent get? I know we were garbage but these refs are total clowns and will only get worse with ganson, that was a great decision child nothing wrong with throwing the ball forward and hitting a grounded player have a penalty salford, in charge.