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| Mine would be Brierley for Grix, Wardle back to centre for Connor, Johnson for Crabtree as Eorl doesn't short turnaround too well these days.
Brierley
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Leeming or Dickinson if Dickinson spell Wood with Hinchy bring on Roberts at LF.
Eorl's game time should be based to make him at his best for the cup QF as he looked k********d on Sunday and has to me each time we have less than a week between games I'm not knocking him just applying a sense of realism based on what I have seen.
Connor needs a break as well for me as he's lost the plot a couple of times recently.
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| when did anderson threaten changes?
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| Quote ="brearley84"when did anderson threaten changes?'"
Every time we have a defeat then he does nothing
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| Named the same 19 Probably play the same team, but we can live in hope.
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| Sam Wood should of come in at centre for Connor, Brierley for Grix, Johnson for Eorl and Ollie Roberts starting instead of Wardle, Leeming back into side at 9 and Hinchcliffe to 13. Too many no shows at Widnes for my liking!! Change at the helm long overdue but not gonna happen
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| So get rid of all the experience.....
Remind me how well that worked out at the start of the season......
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| Yup silly me the experience obviously got us to the lofty heights of 2nd from bottom, lets not change a thing cos we flying. I give up
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| Quote ="jools"So get rid of all the experience.....
Remind me how well that worked out at the start of the season......'"
Not at all if you have seen Eorl after a short turnaround he's struggled, Grix for Brierley makes sense to me as he should have played Sunday and Grix didn't do enough to keep his place and Connor needs a rest and we have enough forwards to play what always used to be our best left hand side combination of Wardle and Murphy.
Experience didn't work last Sunday did it ??
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| Thing is with Grix whether you like it or not you are always starting with a disadvantage as he will every game gift 1 try away right on his own try line. Did against St Helens ( got overlooked as team played well) and Widnes.
Hate to single players out as I do think he gives 100%, just dont think hes good enough to be a full back for a super league side looking to win something and push on.
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| Quote ="GiantJake1988"Thing is with Grix whether you like it or not you are always starting with a disadvantage as he will every game gift 1 try away right on his own try line. Did against St Helens ( got overlooked as team played well) and Widnes.
Hate to single players out as I do think he gives 100%, just dont think hes good enough to be a full back for a super league side looking to win something and push on.'"
With a mere 14 posts to your name you can be excused for not realising what you've just done.
Assuming you can read this and haven't already been banned for blasphemy, let me say that I largely agree with you.
Good luck
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| Quote ="no fear"With a mere 14 posts to your name you can be excused for not realising what you've just done.
Assuming you can read this and haven't already been banned for blasphemy, let me say that I largely agree with you.
Good luck
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As do I. A lot of people on here support with there heart rather than their head. Grix had a decent game against Saints, yes he did drop one that gifted them a try but still a decent game, Unfortunately probably that one decent game will be enough to get him in the side for the rest of the season for some people, PA will more than likely be one of them.
I'm still trying to work out why we signed Brierley, Unless of course It's the old " bring him along slowly ploy" that usually works well.
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| It isnt very long ago that PA was being criticised for playing Brearley at full back! As for Grix, he is our No. 1 full back, the full back who has been there organising our defence when we were the best defence in superleague (two seasons). He made fewer mistakes than Murphy,Brough Hinchcliffe and Wardle against Widnes
and was playing with an injured bicep sustained at Newcastle. Some "knowledgeable" people on here should view the team and individual performances without their personal prejudicies and back the coach s judgement on players .
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| Quote ="jumper"and was playing with an injured bicep sustained at Newcastle. Some "knowledgeable" people on here should view the team and individual performances without their personal prejudicies and back the coach s judgement on players .
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This says it all doesn't it? An injured player is chosen over an exciting attacking alternative who would thrive on the fast pitch at Widnes.
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| Quote ="jumper"It isnt very long ago that PA was being criticised for playing Brearley at full back! As for Grix, he is our No. 1 full back, the full back who has been there organising our defence when we were the best defence in superleague (two seasons). He made fewer mistakes than Murphy,Brough Hinchcliffe and Wardle against Widnes
and was playing with an injured bicep sustained at Newcastle. Some "knowledgeable" people on here should view the team and individual performances without their personal prejudicies and back the coach s judgement on players .
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How many times did he have the ball in hand compared to the 4 you've named?
Are you seriously trying to tell us he was responsible for us having the best defence?
Even if you are, that's the past.
Was only a matter of time til one of the grix lovers mentioned his 'organisation skills'
He is not good enough, simple as that. He never has been, but what makes it more frustrating is the fact that we have a better player on a long term contract sat in the stands!
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| brierley signed to be our long term full back and still learning, apparently best way to learn now is to sit in the stands and watch grix.
anyway grix will be going by the end of this season so the debate on him will finally end
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| brierley signed to be our long term full back and still learning, apparently best way to learn now is to sit in the stands and watch grix.
anyway grix will be going by the end of this season so the debate on him will finally end
then again we still talk about broughton...
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| Quote ="brearley84"brierley signed to be our long term full back and still learning, apparently best way to learn now is to sit in the stands and watch grix.
anyway grix will be going by the end of this season so the debate on him will finally end'"
So he will be the next scape goat getting in the way of Simpson?
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| Bloody hell, Grix starts to play again and he's been critized or complained about (not just on these forums) more than our other players this season already.
All the games we've lost without him and suddenly he's our disadvantage.
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| Quote ="AntonyGiant"Bloody hell, Grix starts to play again and he's been critized or complained about (not just on these forums) more than our other players this season already.
All the games we've lost without him and suddenly he's our disadvantage.'"
He was injured in the first game of the season when the game was still close. He has only played the last two games since then. One we won and one we lost. Inbetween this we have hardly won a game. How is Grix to blame for this. I have to serious think we have the most uneducated fans of any club. I am not saying he played well last week but he was no worse than half a dozen others. We are two thirds of the way through the season and Grix has had one poor game. For gods sake try understanding were the actual problem is and why the Giants are in the position they are.
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| So grix gave away a try, but Hinchcliffe and Jerry both dropped the ball on the line, leading to a score for the opposition and it doesn't lead to this hammering of a player. How many trys does Jerry give away due to poor defensive positioning? Three on the trot identical tries whilst we were leading at Cas which led to us losing the points. Because grix isn't scoring the tries it's assumed he does nothing else. Some people watch but clearly don't understand.
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| Quote ="the stella kid"He was injured in the first game of the season when the game was still close. He has only played the last two games since then. One we won and one we lost. Inbetween this we have hardly won a game. How is Grix to blame for this. I have to serious think we have the most uneducated fans of any club. I am not saying he played well last week but he was no worse than half a dozen others. We are two thirds of the way through the season and Grix has had one poor game. For gods sake try understanding were the actual problem is and why the Giants are in the position they are.'"
The point is that Brierley was doing nothing wrong apart from the odd high ball, he scored a hat trick against Wigan length of the field try against Leeds and was starting to look the part. He enters the line better for me too.
Of course there were other players who made errors but the comments are as much as to why Grix returned straight away and I can't for the life in me see how his return strengthened the side.
Let's forget this 'tosh' about finishing in the eight it ain't gonna happen we signed an exciting prospect to play full back he should learn on the field and gives us genuine pace something we are short of so why is he sat in the stands watching Grix ??
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| yeh think people are missing the point that in brierley we have a direct/better replacement for grix. also why play grix when he is going at the end of the season? brierley has had two games to watch now what to do and what not to do
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| Quote ="brearley84"yeh think people are missing the point that in brierley we have a direct/better replacement for grix. also why play grix when he is going at the end of the season? brierley has had two games to watch now what to do and what not to do
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Think this is exactly the point people are making, Jerry and others do make mistakes, but we haven't bought replacements for them, just to sit them in the stand, It makes no sense at all to me, obviously does to PA though.
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| Me and my dad said against Saints 'Watch it grix will cost us a try from a dropped high ball' and he did, no scapegoat at all, he does it all the time, that's why people keep mentioning it. Full back is not the place for someone who struggles under pressure or has the dropsies, sometimes you can visibly see his confidence drain after he makes his usual mistake. I have no idea why he is back in the side.
Don't rate him, some do, opinions are not fact, so it's pointless me telling someone else they are wrong, ill just let people have their opinions and ill stick to mine.
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| PA got us all excited by threatening changes, he could have warned us the changes were Brough and Ikahihifo!! When we heard Broughy was out the first thoughts were, "A perfect opportunity to play Brierley in the halves"
But alas NO, the love affair with Grix at full back to continue and put Brierley on the bench. It was obvious PA would not bring Brierley on until the game was over.
But when he came on at 55 minutes what a difference he made, up to that point we had no direction at all then Brierley took over and we started to play.
The problem with PA is that he is stubborn and will not admit when he gets it wrong, but he needs to swallow his pride and admit he got it totally wrong tonight.
I've never been part of the PA out brigade but if PA drops Brierley again this week he should be sacked on the spot for gross misconduct for not putting the best interest of the club first.
So I'll help him out with next week's team selection:
1. Connor
2. Jerry
3. Leroy
4. Wardle
5. Murphy/McIntosh
6. Brough
7. Brierley
8. Crabtree
9. Wood
10. Mason
11. Taai
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13. Hinchcliffe
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Roberts (And give him more than a 15 minute cameo role)
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Leeming
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