I know it's easy to blame the coach as he's just 1 man but to me the players are letting him and the club down at the minute.
There just seems to be a really bad lack of effort being put in at times, especially defensively. Yesterday, like Wakefield, Catalans and Salford, we had a chance to kill the game off and once we were in front should have been busting a gut to keep hold of the 2 points but time after time we let the opposition more or less walk over our line after some pat-a-cake efforts at tackling.
Attacking wise too we seem to just stop trying to create and end up just chucking passes anywhere for the sake of it ....yes I know some will say it's the coaches job to motivate them but surely these players, who've all probed they're good players, have to take some of the flack for what's happening...our defence or lack of it is embarrassing at times !!.

Quote ="GIANT DAZ"I know it's easy to blame the coach as he's just 1 man but to me the players are letting him and the club down at the minute. There just seems to be a really bad lack of effort being put in at times, especially defensively. Yesterday, like Wakefield, Catalans and Salford, we had a chance to kill the game off and once we were in front should have been busting a gut to keep hold of the 2 points but time after time we let the opposition more or less walk over our line after some pat-a-cake efforts at tackling. Attacking wise too we seem to just stop trying to create and end up just chucking passes anywhere for the sake of it ....yes I know some will say it's the coaches job to motivate them but surely these players, who've all probed they're good players, have to take some of the flack for what's happening...our defence or lack of it is embarrassing at times !!.'" Go to the Yorkshire Post and watch Paul Andersons press conference and ask yourself if this is the demeaner or PMA of someone who's going to turn it around ?? www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... -1-7831707 Yes the layers hold the responsibility as well I agree but they need positivity and drive not this.

Quote ="GIANT DAZ"I know it's easy to blame the coach as he's just 1 man but to me the players are letting him and the club down at the minute. There just seems to be a really bad lack of effort being put in at times, especially defensively. Yesterday, like Wakefield, Catalans and Salford, we had a chance to kill the game off and once we were in front should have been busting a gut to keep hold of the 2 points but time after time we let the opposition more or less walk over our line after some pat-a-cake efforts at tackling. Attacking wise too we seem to just stop trying to create and end up just chucking passes anywhere for the sake of it ....yes I know some will say it's the coaches job to motivate them but surely these players, who've all probed they're good players, have to take some of the flack for what's happening...our defence or lack of it is embarrassing at times !!.'" Go to the Yorkshire Post and watch Paul Andersons press conference and ask yourself if this is the demeaner or PMA of someone who's going to turn it around ?? www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... -1-7831707 Yes the layers hold the responsibility as well I agree but they need positivity and drive not this.

Whom is responsible for getting the players approach right so they perform. Yes there have been unwelcome distractions (Ferres playing away and Robbo. Retiring) but there has been questionable management too. Does anyone think removing captaincy from Brough has worked ?

Nope he's seemed even more het up now the refs can tell him to not talk to them or else and Hinchy ain't a captain on what's happened so far.

I'm not going to re-write previous posts but just say there have been some shocking contracts handed out.

Where I work no sales equivalent to no victories at RL would lead to a visit to the job market, so what's different ??

As a manger the last refuge of the scoundrel is to blame the staff.

If the staff need motivation , motivate them.
If the staff need training, Train them.
If the staff need support, support them.

If staff need a rocket, give them one.
If the staff are not good enough. Replace them.

That is down to the coach and the management. Not the players.

Sound stuff that !!

and if the players/team need support support them.....

Were you there yesterday Brearley ?? I was I did along with a lot of others and loyalty doesn't include blindness I even stopped to offer some of the team a lift when they were stood at a bus stop by the Xscape on my way to the game.

Turned out they were waiting for the team bus, Anderson was one of them strange preparation for such a big game !

im there every game.

Well then you should know the team were backed 100% by the fans as they always are

Not really - if they live in that area- what's the point in coming all the way to hudds to go all the way back to Cas?????? I think that they got on the bus and arrived as a team together is better preparation than all arriving separately.

Should have met in Huddersfield and travelled together they represent Huddersfield and surely the three hours before kickoff are vital to mentally prepare and get input and the mindset right. Meet greet travel and walk not the ground with the right spirit and frame of mind they would have been on the bus less than ten minutes

Yuk- Im not sure driving along the M62 to Huddersfield 3 hours before the game is better preparation!!!!!

A 45 minute journey is not exactly a hardship, they're not a Pennine League side. I'm not sure how relevant it is if they've done enough preparation in the week prior to the game. If they'd won I don't think anyone would care. But I suppose at times like these, as much as anything else they've got to be SEEN to be cutting no corners and maybe this looks a little like they are?

Or maybe it's just a case of people will find anything to beat the club with at the moment ...like was said if we were winning it wouldn't have even entered anyone's mind !

When I was playing at Oldham even the reserve team had to meet in Oldham to travel... When we played vs Batley I had to travel to Oldham from Huddersfield... You're a team so should travel as a team... Things like this are worrying to me. If you have never played rugby it's probably hard to understand.

Fair enough but my point is why isn't something like this a worry or a problem when we're winning and doing ok ??

What difference does it make- even when they are on the coach together they'll all sit with their phones out anyway!!!

Its called UNITY and if the head coach cant be ar$ed then what example is that giving to everyone else.

Ok...I will look closely in future ...especially when we start winning again and see if this happens and if it will get the same kind of treatment ...like I said anything to beat the club with !!

One of the lads could tell a joke in the changing rooms before a game and that would get criticised for being a bad thing to do ...they should be acting serious not telling jokes and laughing etc etc ...

I'm not sure how asking some players to make an extra journey costing them time and money is classed as unity.
Perhaps the decision was made due to it being worse preparation as it could be that having to travel messes up when they need to eat /have protein shakes or whatever.
I think this is being blown out of proportion, probably happened regularly in previous seasons and as Daz said wouldn't have even been mentioned given another outcome.

I've no real opinion on the matter, but to think that personal expense should be taken into account is ridiculous. This is their job and they are professionals.

I would have thought that all being together would be good for team building but maybe the opposite is true if there is a bad egg in there somewhere?

And it would be no different if travelling to an away game in Lancashire, so individual prep wouldn't be affected any differently

Why is it ridiculous? Why should it cost them unnecessarily? maybe -given it was the week after a busy Easter weekend the decision was made to allow players time to have lunch with their families! If it was a game in Lancashire it's still different- they wouldn't be making an unnecessary journey! Whatever the reason it isnt a reason for our table position!!!
Bad egg????? Oh joy- more rumours ........
This happens all the time, other clubs do it - no big deal.

It should be obvious to you why it's ridiculous jools.

What if this is something we've done for years ?? Was it ridiculous when we were a good side ??

Can't believe the things our fans find faults with ( when we're losing )