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| I'm sorry but that was pathetic.
Similar to Wigan away in the play offs, simply no effort or application whatsoever. That is totally unacceptable.
The standards should be higher. The expectation should be higher. It is too acceptable at this club to be second rate and fail when the going is tough.
Today we didn't even compete against a team who are not even that special anymore.
What were the players coached to do? Is the coaching 'up to it'. Not for me.
That was absolutely embarrassing. Stood on that open terrace, it was hard to even defend that awful effort.
So disappointed.
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| You have picked up on something there. Gaints are simply not capable of going to the level needed in the big games. Leeds and Wigan have about 3 gears Hudds simply don't have.
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| Quote ="Andrew J"I'm sorry but that was pathetic.
Similar to Wigan away in the play offs, simply no effort or application whatsoever. That is totally unacceptable.
The standards should be higher. The expectation should be higher. It is too acceptable at this club to be second rate and fail when the going is tough.
Today we didn't even compete against a team who are not even that special anymore.
What were the players coached to do? Is the coaching 'up to it'. Not for me.
That was absolutely embarrassing. Stood on that open terrace, it was hard to even defend that awful effort.
So disappointed.'"
Not really my place to pull you away from slating your own team, but I think you need to re-evaluate your comment in bold. You were poor and you must be disappointed, but you were well beaten by the CC Holders and Current table toppers.
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| Lots of crazy comments here. The Giants are capable of big games as have shown in the last few years beating teams in the challenge up (including Leeds) and in the playoffs.
Also Leeds are still a class team, there's no stats or proof to say otherwise!
On the game... Not bothered about our cup exit. The challenge cup means nothing unless you're in the final. I'll take the weeks rest.
Our performance however was unacceptable. Absolutely need to learn to start games better.
Team selection for me was unacceptable to change a winning team even if it hadn't of made a difference to the result.
Nothing more to say on today.
Let's hope next week we can continue our good league form and tidy up and keep our best defence.
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| Quote ="AntonyGiant"Lots of crazy comments here. The Giants are capable of big games as have shown in the last few years beating teams in the challenge up (including Leeds) and in the playoffs.
Also Leeds are still a class team, there's no stats or proof to say otherwise!
On the game... Not bothered about our cup exit. The challenge cup means nothing unless you're in the final. I'll take the weeks rest.
Our performance however was unacceptable. Absolutely need to learn to start games better.
Team selection for me was unacceptable to change a winning team even if it hadn't of made a difference to the result.
Nothing more to say on today.
Let's hope next week we can continue our good league form and tidy up and keep our best defence.'"
But you'll only get to the final if you ARE bothered in EVERY round.
That performance was just plain unacceptable from a professional rugby league team.
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| I used to be a fan of the cup, as the underdog team it was exciting mixing it with the big boys in the early rounds. The league is closer now and the final is the only game worth being in otherwise it's just a distraction for the league.
I'd of love to have won to progress to the final game but certainly not bothered about the result, failing at the first hurdle. It's the performance I'm ashamed of.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"You have picked up on something there. Gaints are simply not capable of going to the level needed in the big games. Leeds and Wigan have about 3 gears Hudds simply don't have.'"
Wigan didnt have the gears lastnight v Hull KR.
today leeds seemed to be be faster and running harder in the opening quarter anf thats where they won the game, disappointing when we knew what to expect after the previous two meetings. Not learned.
robinson in for leeming was a bad decision.
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| Thought it was alarming how quickly the confidence of the lads evaporated today. Kick off after leeds 2nd try and ryan hall running the ball in, everyone looked like rabbits caught in headlights! Said (to myself in my head ) for a while we are massively dependant on confidence. As soon as a team start to get on top of us we panic and revert to just patting opposition on the chest as opposed to making an actual tackle, which in turn just makes it too easy for them to score.
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| Hudds need better pivots if they're going to get to the next level on a consistent basis. Apart from Brough every play maker in the Hudds team is average at best.
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| More traffic on here than there's been on the whole board for a few weeks..... Funny that.....
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| I thought you did rather well as a side to keep the score down
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| The games over after 20 minutes. First two tries from glaring individual errors. Then Hall scored a brilliantly executed try and the fourth was a freak try that Cudjoe kicked against the post. 22-0 no chance of recovery. We had no possession at all in that period.
I actually think we gave it a good go for the rest of the game. Scored three tries and could have had another three. We were making a lot of clean breaks in the second half.
Credit Leeds they were excellent and Sinfield was bound to have a great game on his return.
My issue is the daft penalties and the individual errors. A good team will punish you for these.
I am disappointed but not downhearted today because at least there was effort.
To the poster that said there was no effort I will give you three examples of effort in the second half
1 Mcgillivarys run from from his own goal line.
2 Hughes Chase back to tackle Maguire
3 Grix continuing with his nose smashed all over his face.
What the club need to consider though is bringing in a couple of new faces before the play offs as I do feel we are just not quite good enough at the moment.
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| no doubt about effort and players looked as gutted to be out as anyone. it was the panic that ran through the team, needed someone to calm everyone down and remember we've come back from an early leeds onslaught twice this season already! 4th try was the one you knew it wasn't are day though, lucky buggers leeds
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| You were beaten by the better team today, simple as that. Not many people saw it coming in that manner, the bookies were giving you only 8 start, and it is not often they get it wrong. Your lot only have one set of medals to play for this season, and there is no reason why they can't have a real go at being champions. This will probably be the tightest season of Superleague so far, and my money is still on you making the four, but belief and harmony within the club and the supporters may make the difference. No need to knee jerk just yet, there's a lot of Rugby to be played.
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| Quote ="leeds owl"You were beaten by the better team today, simple as that. Not many people saw it coming in that manner, the bookies were giving you only 8 start, and it is not often they get it wrong. Your lot only have one set of medals to play for this season, and there is no reason why they can't have a real go at being champions. This will probably be the tightest season of Superleague so far, and my money is still on you making the four, but belief and harmony within the club and the supporters may make the difference. No need to knee jerk just yet, there's a lot of Rugby to be played.'"
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| The best team won, fine.
We we're pathetic. Missed tackle after tackle.
Disappointed to put it mildly.
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| Quote ="FARTOWNFORLIFE"The best team won, fine.
We we're pathetic. Missed tackle after tackle.
Disappointed to put it mildly.'"
You actually missed less tackles than Leeds.
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| I was just about to say I thought the Giants missed relatively few tackles.
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| Great day out!
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| At least you didn't need your umbrellas
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| very disappointed, this was a great opportunity to put a marker down for the rest of the season and we came up well short.
credit to leeds though, i've read countless posts on here and on facebook etc bemoaning our lack of aggression etc, but leeds played well and would have probably beaten anyone yesterday, yes the opposition wasn't upto much but they just had too much power, pace and guile for us.
i wasn't worried at 18-0 and thought we would come back again, but when they scored from that kick that hit the post i knew it was all over then, we looked shot, completely gone and yes we made a bit of a fist of it from there but in all truth we were never in that game from the moment grix had his brainfart!
we never looked like getting back in it and some of the defending, or lack of it for the tries were embarrassing, but we move on to castleford and i hope we see a massive improvement.
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| Another big game and another dire performance! For me this is a big reason our fan base won't grow much. The big games we just can't compete often enough. And when we do and come away with w big win we generally fall away the game after!
Our problems are simple really but numerous.
Fight to play the ball.....not evident...fair play two men pushing you down to slow you down but damn put in the effort, meters forward of a quick play the ball is a no brainer.
Wrapping up the man, offloads in collision needs to be stopped. Looks worse against Leeds as they have a brilliant passing and off load game but at one point the ball went left to right to to left again with two offloads happening with men tackling the player.
Running from dummy half. Quick scoots catches defences out and chews up the meters.
Direct running from the ball return. Jerry and Murphy spot on but grix.....head down and sprint. Especially with a kick chase like Leeds yesterday
Offloading in the tackle, eorl and huby have been renowned for this at times in there career, but lacking now, big men generally attracting three men a pass to a hooker or halve and we are again running at a defence that isn't set chewing up meters.
Over reliance on brough, he is an awesome player but pressure needs taking off. Last time Delaney this time abblet, one player given the task of charging brough as 8 times out of ten we well use him! Ellis Robbo wood need to do a bit more of the kicking game
Support play, more than one plan? How many times did grix chime in to be surrounded with no where to go. Worked well when he came back for Connor but it seems it has been Sussed and is well marshalled.
Interchange use. Mull short mins again! Maybe his engine but at 22/23 this shouldn't be an issue! Big runs from him when on! Defence looked better too
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| to be fair it was one bad performance out of 5 wasn't it really?
it was the first time any team had put the cleaners through us this year and that team are the cup holders and league leaders...every team has these days, it's now how we pick ourselves up for castleford.
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| Quote ="meast"to be fair it was one bad performance out of 5 wasn't it really?
it was the first time any team had put the cleaners through us this year and that team are the cup holders and league leaders...every team has these days, it's now how we pick ourselves up for castleford.'"
You spouting this deluded rubbish.
It is not about performances it is about performances in games that matter.
We do not do it.
When it comes to BIG games we are , rubbish, useless, ridiculous, pointless irrelevant.
WE need to win big games, Cup games, play off games not little y ones that count for nothing.. Sometimes i can take losing in big games the rub of the green goes against you or whatever. BUT sometimes other than the team coach turning up the players do not. Yesterday was an example, last season Catalan and Wigan in the play offs. They were big games and we were absolutely ing rubbish.
Win against Cas and Win at the magic weekend and you will all be on saying we are back on track and things are getting better.
Until we maybe get to the play offs and lose before the first whistle go. Our players appear to be conditioned to lose big games before the game starts.
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| why is it deluded DG? every game counts for something, be it league points, next round of the cup, or just to keep confidence up.
i agree though that we seem to collapse in the big games, we've had plenty of experience of them over the years, maybe this year we might finally catch up and win a couple?
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