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| So laying bottom of the league after 3 games we have a crunch game against Widnes next...
Widnes are strong at home but struggle away from their ipitch, fully expect us to win if we continue the improvement we have seem from game 1 to 3.
think the team that lined up v leeds deserves another shot as they were very close to getting the win which means robinson will have to miss out for wood again, though i think alot would rather see lunt dropped for robinson to get in?
Game is on friday night due to us having a short turnaround the following week. (thursday game)
Giants to be on the wrong side of the penalty count again?? first 3 games we have been but that just seems a given with us every week.
if we lose it will be anderson out calls.
if we win it will be all about the attendance.
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| We need to start this game well and keep our errors and penalty count as low as possible to get a win.
I'm usually all for a forward battle and a charge down the middle but I'd like us to spread the ball abit more and cover every part of the field. Widnes have the confidence and a team with confidence get the luck and bounce of the ball.. They'll be attacking out wide. I'd like to match them.
Wood to start for me... Lunt on the bench. I think Robbo would benefit greatly for another week off.
I'll say this every week but give Johnson a go!! A young pair of legs in the prop department. He'll surely bring more enthusiasm to the forwards and like last year when he played it seemed to give the other props a boost.
Crabtree or Koppy to have at least a game off.
As for Connor, keep him in for this game but no point in having an experienced full back in Grix if he's not going to be used. Connor is our future. Connor AND Grix are our present.
Hopefully a first win on the horizon and it'll kick start our season. COYG!
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| Why would you rest one of your senior props in a must win game when the forwards actually played well at Leeds?
I would possibly put Grix in for Connor but not sure. Otherwise unchanged except maybe Robinson for Lunt.
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| Are you related to Johnson? The problem is not the Props. Too many others like Cudjoe , Ferres and Lunt off form. Robinson needs a rest after two games, how many games will he play this season and beyond ? The next 3 games for the Club are crucial and the decisions that have been made regarding recruitment and contracts Questioned.
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| Quote ="Ambergiant"Are you related to Johnson? The problem is not the Props. Too many others like Cudjoe , Ferres and Lunt off form. Robinson needs a rest after two games, how many games will he play this season and beyond ? The next 3 games for the Club are crucial and the decisions that have been made regarding recruitment and contracts Questioned.'"
Not related to Johnson. Just expressing an opinion. I rate him. Nothing wrong with that is there? I don't think there's a problem in the props. I just don't see a problem with putting in a fresh pair of legs in the prop department and some fresh enthusiasm.
I'm not going to cry if he doesn't get in because I don't have a problem with anyone who puts the effort in.
The effort is there with all our players as far as I'm concerned.
As for Robbo, it'd be just an extended pick me up. Nothing to do with the physical side of playing but to do with his responsibilities off the pitch.
I'll try not discuss who I'd have in the team in future and post my opinion on a rugby league forum... Oh wait...
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| Quote ="Ambergiant"Are you related to Johnson? The problem is not the Props. Too many others like Cudjoe , Ferres and Lunt off form. Robinson needs a rest after two games, how many games will he play this season and beyond ? The next 3 games for the Club are crucial and the decisions that have been made regarding recruitment and contracts Questioned.'"
I agree the Props are not the problem, though when we use them is part of it. I think the same applies to both Ferres and Cudjoe. Ferres gets far too much ball, but not enough good ball, he tries to force things and opponents are watching him closely, Leroy on the other hand gets little ball let alone good ball as we always look to go to our left.
We showed more patience at Leeds and I felt that Jamie Ellis got a bit more ball, though Broughy still got the Lions share. Let the forwards take 2 or 3 hit ups and then show a bit of variety where we spread it and we will suddenly click and I believe perform as we all hope, as we know we can. Just keep giving the ball to Brough and Ferres with no other strategy than have them do some magic and we will finish in the bottom 4.
Can't blame Ferres for wanting the ball, but you can blame those responsible for moving us around the park for going to the well too often.
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| Quote ="AntGiant"We need to start this game well and keep our errors and penalty count as low as possible to get a win.
I'm usually all for a forward battle and a charge down the middle but I'd like us to spread the ball abit more and cover every part of the field. Widnes have the confidence and a team with confidence get the luck and bounce of the ball.. They'll be attacking out wide. I'd like to match them.
Wood to start for me... Lunt on the bench. I think Robbo would benefit greatly for another week off.
I'll say this every week but give Johnson a go!! A young pair of legs in the prop department. He'll surely bring more enthusiasm to the forwards and like last year when he played it seemed to give the other props a boost.
Crabtree or Koppy to have at least a game off.
As for Connor, keep him in for this game but no point in having an experienced full back in Grix if he's not going to be used. Connor is our future. Connor AND Grix are our present.
Hopefully a first win on the horizon and it'll kick start our season. COYG!'"
dont think dropping crabtree or kopczak for johnson would be any good.. both have been going ok so far, crabtree still does a mountain of work in his stints
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| Quote ="Ambergiant"Are you related to Johnson? The problem is not the Props. Too many others like Cudjoe , Ferres and Lunt off form. Robinson needs a rest after two games, how many games will he play this season and beyond ? The next 3 games for the Club are crucial and the decisions that have been made regarding recruitment and contracts Questioned.'"
cudjoe is being asked to do too much in defence, he is currently 2nd for the most tackles so far close behind top tackler hughes.
robinson is being rested more for personal reasons rather than it being injuries. the contracts that were given to grix and robbo though can be questioned i agree
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| just build on the leeds game Brough to keep his gob shut or sooner or latter he get himself sent off .
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| One of our major problems at the moment is Brough's inability to not bite when being wound up, it's a huge flaw in his game which then becomes a weakness in our team and other coaches know this and are exploiting it !
If Danny can learn to ignore it and concentrate on the game more he will be more suited to controlling thr game like we know he can.
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| We need that Fiaumu side step back to give us some variety.
He steps to the left...........
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| Quote ="brearley84"dont think dropping crabtree or kopczak for johnson would be any good.. both have been going ok so far, crabtree still does a mountain of work in his stints'"
Don't have a problem with them. I'd like to think of it as changing than dropping. It's the beauty of having a good solid squad. First game enthusasim might just freshen up the losing mood.
Whoever Anderson chooses to play I'm sure will put In a good effort. We've improved every game so I'm hoping that will drive us to a win.
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| would like to see grix back in conner moved to the halfs as he likes to be involved ellis to hooker to interchange with wood leave lunt and robbo to play at oldham or wherever
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| Quote ="AntGiant"Don't have a problem with them. I'd like to think of it as changing than dropping. It's the beauty of having a good solid squad. First game enthusasim might just freshen up the losing mood.
Whoever Anderson chooses to play I'm sure will put In a good effort. We've improved every game so I'm hoping that will drive us to a win.'"
he did freshen it up last week though bringing wood and lawrence in.
only 3 games gone no need to shake it up too much
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| Quote ="brearley84"he did freshen it up last week though bringing wood and lawrence in.
only 3 games gone no need to shake it up too much'"
Maybe so, whoever he picks it'll be interesting to see if we can get a win.
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| The only change needed is when we actually start bloody playing
Play like you want to win from kick off
Not 20 minutes in and 18-0 down
We are as good as anyone in the league but not when we only play for 50-60 mins
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| Quote ="Code13"The only change needed is when we actually start bloody playing
Play like you want to win from kick off
Not 20 minutes in and 18-0 down
We are as good as anyone in the league but not when we only play for 50-60 mins'"
We haven't played for 80 mins since 2013 a far as I can remember. I'm tired of the same old we get in the Examiner - they tend to use the word 'hopefully' a lot. Need to get the mind in gear from second 1. I remember that first lick and chase from the off v Leeds in the semi at Odsal. That set the tone for the whole game. I'll be looking at the defensive line speed from the off on Friday as it always seems to give a good indication of how we will go.
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| Quote ="TBC"We haven't played for 80 mins since 2013 a far as I can remember. I'm tired of the same old we get in the Examiner - they tend to use the word 'hopefully' a lot. Need to get the mind in gear from second 1. I remember that first lick and chase from the off v Leeds in the semi at Odsal. That set the tone for the whole game. I'll be looking at the defensive line speed from the off on Friday as it always seems to give a good indication of how we will go.'"
Agree about the line speed from kick off and in general. Throwing 3 or even 4 into the tackle from the off and crunching a few bodies can set the tone from the start.
I'd like to see it happen more regularly.
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| Quote ="Code13"The only change needed is when we actually start bloody playing
Play like you want to win from kick off
Not 20 minutes in and 18-0 down
We are as good as anyone in the league but not when we only play for 50-60 mins'"
poor discipline (ferres) and poor tackling (mullally) didnt help on that 18-0 front!
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| Quote ="AntGiant"Agree about the line speed from kick off and in general. Throwing 3 or even 4 into the tackle from the off and crunching a few bodies can set the tone from the start.
I'd like to see it happen more regularly.'"
i liked the way kaufusi used to go flying in like that but he decided to back to oz after the way we treated him
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| Quote ="brearley84"i liked the way kaufusi used to go flying in like that but he decided to back to oz after the way we treated him'" How did we treat him Brearley?
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| Quote ="bilko1941"How did we treat him Brearley?'"
told him he could basically go rot at bradford but credit to the lad he wanted to fight his way back in the team here and he did so.
no wonder he left when canterbury came calling
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| Grix is back at full back for friday in place of connor by the look of it.
robinson not in again, wood to continue with lawrence too in the team.
hope we can get our first win of the season!!!
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| Quote ="brearley84"told him he could basically go rot at bradford but credit to the lad he wanted to fight his way back in the team here and he did so.
no wonder he left when canterbury came calling'" Not strictly correct Brearley,Kaufusi was sent to the Bulls because he was unfit the Bulls wanted to sign him but he preferred to fight for his place with us.He did come back fitter and regained his place on merit.Just one other point,Larne Patrick,Jason Chan and Antonio Kaufusi had the same agent,work that one out for yourself.
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| I think the criticism of Ferres and Cudjoe has been very harsh. The issue that is causing problems for both of them is the same – the preference of attacking down our left hand side. Teams are fully prepared for this, they set themselves for it which makes it easy to defend – it’s not that Ferres has been ‘figured out’ as some have stated it’s just that we’re not giving him a chance and this in turn is leading to some frustration resulting in some of his ill-discipline. This of course then impacts of Wardle and what he can feed to his winger. With the preference for going down the left, Cudjoe is starved of ball which leads to him trying to force things when he gets it. We need to mix up our attacking play much more.
I don’t see any point in moving Connor from full back or dropping him to make way for Grix – I’d be disappointed if this happened. I’m a fan of Grix and would have no worries about him playing at full back but I think Connor has earned the chance for a run in the team with his last 2 displays – yes, he made two important mistakes against Leeds but that is always going to be the case when young player comes through and the only way of reducing those type of errors is give him experience.
Ellis and Huby are also showing signs of settling. Which each game we are seeing more kicks from Ellis and in the last two games I even saw more hints of us using our right hand side more. Huby’s off-loads have also increased.
Hopefully Widnes’ last result and our 3 losses will mean we give them their due respect but, at the end of the day, whatever the previous results, Widnes at home is a game we should be winning and I expect us to do so even though I see it being tight.
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