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| Kicking game dreadful
halfbacks so predictable and both terrible
fullback not up to sl standard we missed hodgson today
maybe we should call mcnally back and give him a go? we cant do much worse.
most of the team looked like they couldnt be bothered today.
why do we have 3 hookers in our 17??
moores passing was poor today.
get the chequebook out and sign brough.
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| Losing had nothing to do with Salford then?
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| Obviously, but they werent that good were they? today was like watching us 10 years ago.
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| Sadly not surprised by the loss. Had a bad feeling as soon as Brett was out. Was at Quins v Wakey today, both average, but Quins slightly better. Always saw Salford as a banana skin, and they are showing some form.
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| had lots of chances today just cant seem to convert them into scores.
brown does nothing creative in attack, need fulton back from injury quick
moore not playing anywhere near like earlier in the season
why play korkidas for 12 mins then bring him back on for the last 3 mins??????????
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| Credit to Salford, they defended well, made very few errors and took advantage of our mistakes. I thought our pack was stronger, but we couldn't build on it.
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| i agree we need a proper number 6 becuase although brown is doing all he can atm, he doesnt have the spark that we need to take us too the next level.
i agree though korkidas played 15 minutes in the whole game.....whats all that about?! awful substitution rotation there our forwards looked completely outplayed n we needed that regular change up front
cudjoe is alright at fullback, he has good positioning and catching skills but he dances in front of the defence and doesnt run hard enough!
n i will tell you what really gets on my nerves, people leaving 10 MINUTES before the end of the game! whats all that about? alright al be the first one to admit it, yeh we played bad, we didnt finish of the few good moves that we did, but come on have some pride in your team
also, there was this one guy singling out d. hodgson. ok, he didnt have the best of games and he hasnt really hit his top form this season, but this guy is saying 'o hodgson, your s**t, your this, your that', n am thinking to myslef, o yeh mate thats guna do his confidence a world of good innit? he does get involved with the ruck a hell of a lot, but that is because our forwards dont get back enough. he needs to be in open space more so he can show his speed and his step
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| Quote ="Leek"Obviously, but they werent that good were they? today was like watching us 10 years ago.'"
They didnt have to be "that good" as you put it did they? I think you are doing them an injustice. They managed to keep us to 4 points so they must have had some say in that.
We didnt have any enthusiasm, rubbish handling skills, terrible kicking game, no communication and looked like they were shattered before the first 20 had gone by. Walking with hands on hips, poor tackling, the list goes on. I dont know what has gone wrong with the team lately but it needs sorting before we slip slide all the way down the table to swap places with Salford. The worry is I cant pinpoint one single thing that is causing this slump. On today's performance I really do not know who we can beat. I am really disappointed with the team at the moment.
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| Quote ="Fozzibear"n i will tell you what really gets on my nerves, people leaving 10 MINUTES before the end of the game! whats all that about? alright al be the first one to admit it, yeh we played bad, we didnt finish of the few good moves that we did, but come on have some pride in your team'"
People pay their money its their choice when they leave. That game was absolutely terrible. I for one admit I left early. I take my 80 year old Mother-in-Law and I figured why waste 10 minutes on a team that werent interested when I could be making my way over to her house and then back across town to my house to get myself started on packing for my holiday. I applaud the team and stay behind at the end most games but today I figured they werent bothered why should I be? It doesnt make me any less a fan than you or anyone else. I have never booed the team and never will no matter have bad they are. Not even through the first 4 years of SL when we were nailed on to lose, I turned up and never once booed. Leaving early, yes I have and will do so again if it suits me to do so.
I will tell you what REALLY gets on my nerves...people getting up and down every 5 minutes to go to the bar, fetch a beer back, only to get up 5 minutes after that to go to the loo. No sooner have they sat down than little Jonny wants to go to the loo so Dad gets up again to take him, brings him back only to get up minutes later to go fetch yet another beer. Drives me mad. If you want a beer so much go to the pub. Fair enough sell it before the game and at half time but does it really need to be sold throughout? And does it really need to be allowed into the stands? I have lost count of the number of times folks spill beer on their way past you. Arent we all there to watch a game.
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| totally agree with all the above points, though i thought the main difference was salford stuck to a game plan and executed it perfectly, we had enough chances in the first half to win the game but couldnt execute, why have we suddenly wanted to kick into the in goal all the time especially when they had been shortened today.
who the hell picked mom because both half backs were shocking in my opinion, cant see how any of the backs could have won it, again i have said it before the cas fans were right about moore hes not upto the job, his passing is awful. also think nathan brown should shoulder some of the flak his team selection today and tactics seemed clueless, lunt great impact player coming on as hooker but not starting as back rower, the farce with korkidas unless he was injured, ithink he was outcoached today as well as the team outplayed
rant over well played salford, lets get back on track at wakey next week
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| cant see the point of booing players at all, the only effect it has is to make them worse
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| Quote ="danna-blue2"I figured they werent bothered why should I be?
a team doesnt go into a game not been bothered, they get outplayed. face it salford outplayed us in every aspect of the game, but you stick with your team no matter what the score becuase its about loyalty and commitment. im not saying it makes you less of a fan that me or anyone else, but uve spent good money to watch a game, so stick it out for the players who are trying, but this time just didnt click with each other. dont slag the team off otherwise they will think that the fans dont care and will get slaughered each and every week.
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| I think our "kids" such as Myler, Ratchford, Goulding anfd Turner ran the show.
We now have a good blend of youth and exprience.
Just goes to show that Robinson is an average scrum half and will never be in the same league as Myler
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| well said fozzi , dont think the players wernt bothered just beat by a better side on the day
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| Quote ="The Caged Beast"I think our "kids" such as Myler, Ratchford, Goulding anfd Turner ran the show.
We now have a good blend of youth and exprience.
Just goes to show that Robinson is an average scrum half and will never be in the same league as Myler'"
since when was goulding your kid?? thought he was wigans!
oh and think robinso made more clean breaks today than myler
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| Quote ="Fozzibear"Quote ="danna-blue2"I figured they werent bothered why should I be?
a team doesnt go into a game not been bothered, they get outplayed. face it salford outplayed us in every aspect of the game, but you stick with your team no matter what the score becuase its about loyalty and commitment. im not saying it makes you less of a fan that me or anyone else, but uve spent good money to watch a game, so stick it out for the players who are trying, but this time just didnt click with each other. dont slag the team off otherwise they will think that the fans dont care and will get slaughered each and every week.'" '"
I didnt say they did go into a game not being bothered. I agree Salford outplayed us in every single aspect of the game. What I was saying was I went earlier because I felt I could utilise my time better. The team were not interested from the minute the game kicked off. They were waiting for the "other guy" to make the tackle, make the break etc. etc. I have stuck with this team for the past 16 years and will continue to do so. I dont slag the team off, I simply put forward my opinion on their performance in a polite manner as is my right. They know the fans care, the reason why they get grief from the fans is because they care, if we didnt care we wouldnt turn up and we wouldnt give a damn how we played or if we won would we?? The team getting criticism is hardly the reason why they lost today or any other time...it was because they didnt perform like they can for whatever reason. I have witnessed many slaughterings by the likes of Leeds - I was there in that first season stood in the stands at Leeds singing "We only came for the cricket" because the score was that big. I didnt "slag" them off then and dont now.
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| Quote ="The Caged Beast"I think our "kids" such as Myler, Ratchford, Goulding anfd Turner ran the show.
We now have a good blend of youth and exprience.
Just goes to show that Robinson is an average scrum half and will never be in the same league as Myler'"
whilst im impressed by the salford kids ( not including wigan's goulding!) im sure robinson was once a good promising talent? im sure when he was a good promising kid at salford he was more than just an average player?
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| No passion.
No commitment.
No ambition.
No effin clue.
That sums up our performance today. Low points. Not finding touch with the first penalty. Not being able to defend our line. Passing to a player stood in front of you (twice). Inside ball, inside ball, inside ball. What are we going to do on this tackle, oh I might have guessed inside freaking ball. Kicking on the last tackle near the Salford line EVERY SINGLE SODDING TIME. At one point we had at least a four to one overlap and Robinson ran along the line and then kicked sideways FFS. Kicks that where either too hard along the floor or just lobbed throught the air into the in-goal area, every single one resulting in a Salford tap on the twenty. Getting a scrum near the Salford line with maybe time for one or two tackles and what do we do? Give the ball to Faiumu who runs in and gets tackled, excellent way to waste a tackle.
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| yeh i appreciate that n by the sound of what your saying yo've been watching the giants a lot longer than me n you sound like a much more experienced spectator than me. it just really gets me frustrated when people leave early even if you do think you could be spending your time more wisely. i mean 10 minutes is nothing you might as well sit it out just to see the end of it seen as though uve sat through the first 70 minutes.
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| Quote ="Mad_Jack_Mcmad"No passion.
No commitment.
No ambition.
No effin clue.
That sums up our performance today. Low points. Not finding touch with the first penalty. Not being able to defend our line. Passing to a player stood in front of you (twice). Inside ball, inside ball, inside ball. What are we going to do on this tackle, oh I might have guessed inside freaking ball. Kicking on the last tackle near the Salford line EVERY SINGLE SODDING TIME. At one point we had at least a four to one overlap and Robinson ran along the line and then kicked sideways FFS. Kicks that where either too hard along the floor or just lobbed throught the air into the in-goal area, every single one resulting in a Salford tap on the twenty. Getting a scrum near the Salford line with maybe time for one or two tackles and what do we do? Give the ball to Faiumu who runs in and gets tackled, excellent way to waste a tackle.'"
Couldn't sum it up much better than that.
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| Quote ="goodie"totally agree with all the above points, though i thought the main difference was salford stuck to a game plan and executed it perfectly, we had enough chances in the first half to win the game but couldnt execute, why have we suddenly wanted to kick into the in goal all the time especially when they had been shortened today.
who the hell picked mom because both half backs were shocking in my opinion, cant see how any of the backs could have won it, again i have said it before the cas fans were right about moore hes not upto the job, his passing is awful. also think nathan brown should shoulder some of the flak his team selection today and tactics seemed clueless, lunt great impact player coming on as hooker but not starting as back rower, the farce with korkidas unless he was injured, ithink he was outcoached today as well as the team outplayed
rant over well played salford, lets get back on track at wakey next week'" good rant agree
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| Quote ="brearley84"since when was goulding your kid?? thought he was wigans!'"
We have adopted him
He has played really well since he came on loan and has really improved the defence on that side of the field. He has scored a few tries too. Hopefully we can keep him for the rest of the season and who knows after that
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| Quote ="meast"whilst im impressed by the salford kids ( not including wigan's goulding!) im sure robinson was once a good promising talent? im sure when he was a good promising kid at salford he was more than just an average player?'"
Can't disagree, i still think robbo has a lot to offer and looks dangerous every time he gets the ball Made a couple of great half breaks today and offloaded twice to set hudds free!! Thank fook the little nugget head didn't have the last word though!!!
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| Quote ="Mad_Jack_Mcmad"That sums up our performance today. Low points. Not finding touch with the first penalty. Not being able to defend our line. Passing to a player stood in front of you (twice). Inside ball, inside ball, inside ball. What are we going to do on this tackle, oh I might have guessed inside freaking ball. Kicking on the last tackle near the Salford line EVERY SINGLE SODDING TIME. At one point we had at least a four to one overlap and Robinson ran along the line and then kicked sideways FFS. Kicks that where either too hard along the floor or just lobbed throught the air into the in-goal area, every single one resulting in a Salford tap on the twenty. Getting a scrum near the Salford line with maybe time for one or two tackles and what do we do? Give the ball to Faiumu who runs in and gets tackled, excellent way to waste a tackle.'"
All the above sounds like the Radar Robinson we once knew.
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