In Rugby League, if you lose the forward battle you normally lose the match. Having already lost to KR this season by our tiny pack being dominated when Eorl went off, it is madness, absolute madness to play a light pack. When did the match turn? When Eorl went off?

I am right behind the players, no questions ovet commitment there. But the coach despite all the good he has done has lost the plot. Making mistales happens, failing to learn from them is stupid, ignoring them and coming out with patronising crap in the paper is worse than stupid, it is damaging the club we all care about.

Can anyone be sure we will finish above Leeds? They are 9th.

Great coach? Not even close, Rugby League is a simple game, rule 1, play 4 big props to ensure at least parity in the physical battle, enough said.

We have the players, just bloody well pick them.

Completely agree. It was painful watching the hkr pack rumbling down the park all evening. And where was our muscle ? Not even on the bench ? I posted previously that this would have been an ideal match for our tackling machine Fairbanks. Where was he ? And btw where was mason tonight ?

Our weak pack is being exposed and I feel sorry for the players who are filling in there.

mason was dropped??
mcgillvary was dropped as well,brown wasnt happy about something he put on twitter,i wonder if mcbanana will drop peacock this week??????
poor 3 quarters again and forwards were mostly poor-ferguson had a nightmare

Brown has been poor but stripping him of captaincy would send a very strong message out but is that the answer?

Poor threequarters? I take it you weren't watching Leroy. He was one of the few who shone.

It was a good idea in theory but think Nathan needs to admit that this experimental lightweight, mobile pack isn't working anymore and get back to basics IE 2 prop forwards 2 second rowers a loose forward and a hooker , and by that i mean players who are noted for playing in them positions.

We are too easy to work out now and teams are simply sending their big men to target us !

Has Brown fallen out with Mason or is he injured? Seems to have mised quite a lot of games this season.

Who of us on here could say???

agree, come up against one of the biggest packs in super league and we dont play mason?!



would of thought he would of known this seeing as we lost to them after being steam rolled in the forwards earlier in the season

get back to playing the props and stop with the mobile pack as its not working anymore..teams have figured us out

oh and stop the ill discipline when we get good field position

Nathan Brown comments;

"It's quite obvious our right edge is struggling defensively and they're very strong down that side with Dobson, Benny Galea and Kris Welham. Apart from Wigan, they're the form team of the competition at the moment."

cudjoe-- right centre or am i wrong

You defend too narrow when opposition in your last 30. You can only defend like this when opposition not deep into your half. Cudjoe and George both caught short last night. It has to be man on man. Even if he only gets hold of man at first attempt as long as he clamps ball and then a second defender comes into help it will stop a lot of trys. A lot of times you were trying to put two men on one runner leaving holes.

Grix was dropped Mason got tonsilites,Mcgillvary injured ,hope this clears that up.

How serious is McGillvary's injury???

Not really, convenient Mason would be struck down so could not be selected as so many other times this season, but accepting that point reluctantly, why not replace him with a prop such as Walker or Tonks, even Orwell?

Why play 4 hookers? Absolute pigheaded stupidity. As per my opening post I am right behind the players but want a coach who will pick them in positions to do themselves justice

Tonsillitis has been mentioned but we saw him driving away from the stadium at 7.30 and looking far from happy.

I was going to post "Mr Boyd", but he beat me to it!

remember when we had Eorl, Mason, Griffin, Jackson, Raleigh, Snitch etc fighting for places .....and now we rarely have 3 props in the 17 !!

what was the point in giving Tony Tonks a contract ? we dont even use our recognised, experienced props so this lad was ahrdly gonna get a look in !

tonks and orwell are injured still i think

cant see what walker did wrong when he had his chance..impressed in pre season and in the games he played early on, but the prop department we are short all because we let griffing go

yes but alson nathan brown said.....

Brown also had a special mention for Man of the Match Eorl Crabtree, Leroy Cudjoe, the returning Tommy Lee and Scott Moore who all impressed him in the loss.

“Eorl played terrific, his first stint was sensational and Leroy had his best game for a while. Tommy did quite well and Scott Moore played his best game in a number of years.

Scott Moore had a decent first 15-20. He looks to have leaned down a bit. I wouldn't say much more than that.
But at the same time, those 17 could have won the game last night. They were extremely hesitant in defence and that didn't help at all.

Someone mentioned our sliding defence and that's nailed if

In our own quarter we just don't number up and have to switch to man on man

Leroy DID play well.

Mason tweeted he has flown to America today for some R and R. That will cure his tonsillitis.

yes seen this... enjoy keith! just make sure your fit for the next game

Going to an audition for a film part???