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| so it's been confirmed r 1st home game will b against Catalans
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| And 1st away game is Wigan
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| Seems the RL rubic cube has been solved on Twitter
If correct
Wigan A
Catalans H
Saints A
Cas H
Wire H
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Leeds H
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| Any leaks of dates ?
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| Quote ="wigsey"Any leaks of dates ?'"
that is the week by week order as far as i know the only confirmed Sky game is Leigh v Hull KR but i guess all the games have been chosen and will be out tomorrow. Not sure how Catalan home games are going to be handled as if they carry on showing them all it will be 2 games on a Sat when they are home with a middle 8s game before it. Think Wigan is a shoe in for TV Cas and Wire too Saints maybe Hull and Catalans no and think they will wait to see how things stand before deciding on Leeds though think that weekend everyone will play Thurs/Friday with a possible semi final the following Thurs.
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| Wigan away first is a tough game. The Wigan board already have that as a definite win. Let's hope we can be the first to beat them at home this season. I don't see why not. I think this new structure could be good for us- it's just another scheduled game rather than a knockout.
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| Quote ="jools"Wigan away first is a tough game. The Wigan board already have that as a definite win. Let's hope we can be the first to beat them at home this season. I don't see why not. I think this new structure could be good for us- it's just another scheduled game rather than a knockout.'"
Agreed anything over 2pts from the first 3 fixtures is a bonus and then it's game on v Cas and Wire which will be the real tests as they will have an edge to them I don't think any regular season game has had since Wigan 2 years ago when we were chasing the hub cap. I do not think we will be out of it whatever happens before those 2 games but we need to go into them playing well and have belief in the players and the fans that we can take those 4 points and have one foot in the top 4 or if we have done well at Wigan and Saints aim even higher.
Saints would be at Wembley a week later if they win their semi which would be a slight swing in our favour too.
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| whats the betting hull away will be a thursday again?
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| Quote ="meast"whats the betting hull away will be a thursday again?'"
I would think Catalans will be the only Sunday fixture we have for the rest of the season....just hope the last game is on a Saturday played somewhere on the edge of Salford
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| Wigan (a) thurs 6th aug SKY
Catalan (h) fri 14th Aug
Saints (a) thurs 20th aug. SKY
Cas (h) thurs 3rd sep SKY
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Hull FC (a) fri 18th sep
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| 3 thursday games, how does that compare with the other 7?
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| looks like cas have 4, us 3, saints 2 and warrington, wigan and leeds 1 each?
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| Quote ="jools"Wigan (a) thurs 6th aug SKY
Catalan (h) fri 14th Aug
Saints (a) thurs 20th aug. SKY
Cas (h) thurs 3rd sep SKY
Wire (h) sun 13th sep
Hull FC (a) fri 18th sep
Leeds (h) fri 25th Sep
No Saturday games, one Sunday
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Unless we make Old Trafford
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| Can see a lot less than 4800 at that Catalans game
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| can see us struggling for any crowd over 7,000 maybe the leeds game if there's still something play for.
the club are doing deals for non ST holders which works out at £17.50 per game, would that tempt you into buying one if you were a non ST holder?
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| catalans game on friday night but not on sky?
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| Quote ="meast"catalans game on friday night but not on sky?'"
Did not want to play Sun/Thur
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| Let's see how good the club's marketing is for this !! we should be pushing the hell out of our home games now as we look towards semi-finals ! At the moment we are in a semi-final place we need to be ramming that down peoples throats and emphasising the importance of this and making it so people in and around town see nothing but claret & gold for the next few weeks !!!
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| This fixtures list has made my season ticket an expensive half season, as can't make any mid week games ie Thursdays or Fridays so one home game on a Sunday. Won't be renewing next year pity, but can't afford to waste money sorry Ken count me out.
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| Quote ="poverty Knocker"This fixtures list has made my season ticket an expensive half season, as can't make any mid week games ie Thursdays or Fridays so one home game on a Sunday. Won't be renewing next year pity, but can't afford to waste money sorry Ken count me out.'"
Ironically if we had been middle 8 you would probably have been able to make every game even those on TV Sky dont seem to want to give up on Thursday but when sides like Cas get half the crowd on a Thursday than they would if that game was on a Sunday surely someone must see something is wrong. I would go for a game on Saturday evening even when Catalans are away in the 5pm slot their homes get and perhaps if they are home have one at 3pm or 7pm as a double header (assuming all their home games on TV is a long term thing).
If we are to have Thursday games perhaps limit it to 12 a season in a 12 week period cup weekends excepted and every club gets featured once at home but no more than once. All supporters would know where they stood and buying a season ticket could be a more informed choice.
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| Quote ="espanyolswan"Ironically if we had been middle 8 you would probably have been able to make every game even those on TV Sky dont seem to want to give up on Thursday but when sides like Cas get half the crowd on a Thursday than they would if that game was on a Sunday surely someone must see something is wrong. I would go for a game on Saturday evening even when Catalans are away in the 5pm slot their homes get and perhaps if they are home have one at 3pm or 7pm as a double header (assuming all their home games on TV is a long term thing).
If we are to have Thursday games perhaps limit it to 12 a season in a 12 week period cup weekends excepted and every club gets featured once at home but no more than once. All supporters would know where they stood and buying a season ticket could be a more informed choice.'"
That would require the RFL running the game. !!!
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| Quote ="espanyolswan"Ironically if we had been middle 8 you would probably have been able to make every game even those on TV Sky dont seem to want to give up on Thursday but when sides like Cas get half the crowd on a Thursday than they would if that game was on a Sunday surely someone must see something is wrong. I would go for a game on Saturday evening even when Catalans are away in the 5pm slot their homes get and perhaps if they are home have one at 3pm or 7pm as a double header (assuming all their home games on TV is a long term thing).
If we are to have Thursday games perhaps limit it to 12 a season in a 12 week period cup weekends excepted and every club gets featured once at home but no more than once. All supporters would know where they stood and buying a season ticket could be a more informed choice.'"
Everything there makes sense, probably to everyone but Sky, And Sky don't give a Fig what Giants fans ( or anybody else's fans think. They own the game and as the saying goes" he who pays the piper and all that "
Sky don't want you and me down at the stadium watching the game, they want us sat on the Couch with a few cans watching the game.
The RFL sold out to sky when the summer game came into being, In truth they had little or no option if they wanted to keep the game professional, so now the game takes what Sky pays us ( a fraction of what they pay union ) and we think ourselves lucky.
If they say we play at X time of day or night, then that's when we play, if they change days or times, that's tough. They are making a TV circus of the game and the RFL can do nothing about it.
It is truly a sad state of affairs but they are the Daddies, They know it, we know it and the RFL know it, Without them the game would be played at amateur level in no time at all. How many would want that.
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| Quote ="jools"They pay us a fraction of the cost they pay yawnion? the viewing figures for league are higher. But the RFL think they have a great deal...'"
You are right of course, but I don't think myself we have the right calibre of people running League.
What we need IMO is some of the people who Run Union. It is inferior to League in almost every way on the field for the most part ( and that's from someone who used to play Union ) Off the field It has left us for dead, Whatever we think of them, they know how to run and market their sport .
In the few short years since the game went ( openly professional ) they have gone forwards in leaps and bounds, They are truly a world wide sport that can fill stadiums to capacity for International games. Compare that to League internationals, where for the top games we can maybe muster crowds of 25 ,000, and those games have to involve the so called big 3. because League fans by and large care little about internationals, or whether we beat the Aussies ever again.
It is behind League on the field IMO but it is catching up fast, the players are fitter and faster by far than they were, and the game is far more varied than league, They have adopted a lot of league's rules over the years to improve their game and it is working.
The Super twelve games that I have watched are as good as League .
They have ref's who have 3 times as many infringements to watch for and yet by and large they get it right, without the need for some clown like Cummings to explain the mysteries away. and they have commentators, they don't have to put up with the modern day Eddie Warings making a joke of commentating .
In years gone by League used to trawl the Valleys of S Wales and a few other places, and cherry pick the best players who needed the money, they got a lot of truly classy players like Lewis jones, David Watkins and the like.
Nowadays the boot is on the other foot, Not only do they come and poach our better players , they take our people for coaching as well, They know all the right palms to grease to keep the game at the top in all the various Media outlets, and they miss few chances to put league in its place.
In short even though Union has It's problems and fall outs, They are still driving the game forward world wide. I don't think I need to reference Leagues 100 year progress at driving the game forward.
That for what It's worth is why Union is awash with money and League is by comparison a pauper.
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